Originally Posted by in2it54
(Post 18011480)
I reckon he's chasing a lifestyle thing - not primaryily a CBD and airport.
Originally Posted by mario33
(Post 18000090)
Are the airport taxis controlled by mafias, and whats the fare like for a short ride out of the airport permeter ?
How are the public transport like, and is it easy to get around the island ? How is the food in Bali compared with Bangkok, Singapore or Kuala Lumpur ? How are medical facilities as compared with Bangkok, Singapore or Kuala Lumpur ? |
Originally Posted by dsquared37
(Post 18019351)
MNL, CGK and SGN don't hold a candle to BKK. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by smith80678
(Post 18027215)
MNL cant hold a candle? Not if you are a single man:cool:;)
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Answers to questions about DPS
Originally Posted by mario33
(Post 18000090)
And how many hours to Hanoi ?
Originally Posted by mario33
(Post 18000090)
How are the fares out of DPS as compared to BKK or SIN ?
Originally Posted by mario33
(Post 18000090)
Are the airport taxis controlled by mafias, and whats the fare like for a short ride out of the airport permeter ?
Originally Posted by mario33
(Post 18000090)
How are the public transport like, and is it easy to get around the island ?
Originally Posted by mario33
(Post 18000090)
How is the food in Bali compared with Bangkok, Singapore or Kuala Lumpur ?
Originally Posted by mario33
(Post 18000090)
How are medical facilities as compared with Bangkok, Singapore or Kuala Lumpur ?
Originally Posted by mario33
(Post 18000090)
...But suggesting DPS as a base to travel around SE Asia is pure lunacy !
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Originally Posted by illinidad
(Post 18029349)
At least one other post has mentioned pretty low airfares vs. Oz at least.
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For airfares SIN is definitely the best, as Tiger is more often than not significantly cheaper than Airasia.
One example: HKG/MFM-SIN-SGN is at times half the price of HKG/MFM-BKK-SGN (I live in Hong Kong) even KUL-SIN-final destination could be an economic option. |
Originally Posted by smith80678
(Post 18027215)
MNL cant hold a candle? Not if you are a single man:cool:;)
I think we're all aware there's something to go to MNL for. Food, history, safety are not on that list. |
[QUOTE=illinidad;18024909]First, hope this is a fantastic experience for your family, especially the children. What great memories this will make.[quote]
Agreed.
Originally Posted by illinidad
(Post 18024909)
Geographically, HKG or TYO just don't cut it as a base for SEAsia. Makes no sense to me...You'd just spend too much time in the air....
Interesting to see that MNL got a few mentions. Geographically, it's also probably a bit far away to use as a base. And the safety issues? Definitely a black mark.... DPS is a very intruiging suggestion. DPS would be a great place for OP to visit in their 3 months, I don't see it as a feasible hub.
Originally Posted by illinidad
(Post 18024909)
KUL doesn't seem like a bad choice. I don't know it nearly as well as SIN, but I agree with the positive comments about the flavorful food, it has many modern conveniences you're going to want at your base, and it's pretty safe. Plus it is pretty cheap.
Originally Posted by illinidad
(Post 18024909)
The other thing that I noted as I read through the thread is that no one has mentioned possible culture shock issues. I know you didn't mention it, and its likely you have far more awareness than most Americans, but this is something to think about since your base will be 'home'.
Originally Posted by illinidad
(Post 18024909)
Having been an expat, the newness and wonder of being immersed in a new and totally different culture (Indonesia)....Fortunately, the national language uses Roman letters, so at least I could read signs and hazard a guess at pronunciation, possibly meaning. But Thai? Forget it.
Understandably this is not an option for the normal tourist, but there are many people who have lived in Thailand for years and barely know how to introduce themselves in Thai. For what OP desires to do the language barrier won't be problematic in Thailand. |
Originally Posted by yosithezet
(Post 18019603)
Your nationality clouds your judgement because although you've spent so many years outside of the Philippines you speak the language, blend in and have a better ability to understand the unspoken nuances of behaviour than someone who has never spent time in the Philippines. This influences your sense of personal safety and ability to determine what is acceptable from a hygiene perspective and generally navigate the city/country. You have a better idea of what is going on around you.
I lived in Israel for many years. I speak Hebrew. My sense of personal security and my ability to navigate society is very different than a first time visitor. I have spent a great deal of time in India and Thailand over the past number of years. There are points where the lack of ability to speak the local languages can be an issue, but generally my ability to navigate and assess my surroundings is much better than someone who is on their first or second short trip. A number of years ago I went on a business trip to Holland. It was the first time I was in a country where I could read the latin characters but had no idea what they said. I had to make my way from Schipol to a place called 's-Hertogenbosch by train. Generally Holland is a fairly safe place. I blend in. But the lack of language and inability to understand what I was reading gave me an uneasy feeling that I needed to ask much more often whether I was heading to the right place. When I finally arrived at 's-Hertogenbosch I found out that while I was trying to pronounce 's-Hertogenbosch the Dutch call the place "Den Bosch". So you can imagine a Dutch person that hadn't lived in Holland for many years would still have a much more comfortable experience than I had. The way you experience the Philippines is very different to the way a couple with young children who have never spent time there will experience it. They may have trouble getting their head around the signs that say "Please check your firearms before entering". Maybe they should avoid Texas as well. ;) But yeah, it's a real bummer the way road signs don't reflect the dual name situation. It must be horrendous to be driving around endlessly trying to find "Den Bosch", which your map says is right there, but meanwhile it's nowhere to be found on any road sign. |
Originally Posted by bryannn
(Post 18030421)
But yeah, it's a real bummer the way road signs don't reflect the dual name situation. It must be horrendous to be driving around endlessly trying to find "Den Bosch", which your map says is right there, but meanwhile it's nowhere to be found on any road sign.
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Originally Posted by TrueBlueFlyer
(Post 18031835)
This can happen in other places too, including Singapore where New Bridge Road is briefly Eu Tong Sen Street :)
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Originally Posted by jpatokal
(Post 18032348)
Nope -- it looks like a single ordinary road to us mere mortals, but New Bridge Rd is the southbound lanes, and Eu Tong Sen St is the northbound lanes! :eek:
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Originally Posted by TrueBlueFlyer
(Post 18032382)
with a covered canal in the middle?
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Thought I should give an update. We did make the trip and decided on Kuala Lumpur for our main "hub" as we traveled around SE Asia for 4 months.
From our base, we did trips to Thailand, Indonesia, Cambodia, Vietnam, Singapore and the island of Borneo (Malaysian side). For our circumstance we felt like we made a great choice. We did Singapore (a lot more expensive - yet nice) and Bangkok (dirty, crazy and a bit cheaper). KUL had a lot to offer our family and we didn't get bored. We found a furnished condo 100 yards from the Petronas Towers so we were able to walk to shops and restaurants and taxis are very reasonable. English is widely spoken and the variety of cultures kept things interesting. There were a number of different holidays/festivals while we were there. We used Air Asia (I think we had 10 different RT flights) and they were a great airline. Clean, never once late. I signed up for their email newsletter so I got notified when they were running a sale. For the really cheap tickets you need to book quite a bit in advance. KUL is their hub so it was non-stop flights everywhere we went. Thanks to everyone who gave meaningful advice which helped us plan our trip. |
Thanks for updating. Glad to hear you had a great time!
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