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SoFlyOn May 3, 2009 11:12 am

Health checks at EZE
 
I arrived at EZE this morning on UA847 from IAD. All passengers were required to fill out a detailed form from the Argentine Ministry of Health that was distributed during the flight.

Details of previous travel in the past 14 days, and travel after arrival in Argentina were requested, along with addresses and local contact telephone numbers, a contact address and telephone number in the passenger's home country, and an email address. Also details of the arrival flight and seat number were required, along with the usual passport/ID information.

The form was set up for arrival by land, sea, or air, but I don't know whether it has been implemented at other entry points, or for arrivals from other than North America. The form was in Spanish/Portuguese/English, although the English was of poor quality and badly designed, and the form is confusing, since it doesn't detail, for example, the date format required, or whether the departure day or arrival day of the flight should be filled in.

Upon landing at EZE, our aircraft was directed to Terminal B (the AR terminal) to deplane, but we had to wait until an AA aircraft was pulled back from the jetway we needed to use. We had to wait for about 20 minutes on board, since there was not enough room to process all arriving passengers because there were two AA flights that had landed just before the UA flight (at about 9:30 am). Probably there were more than 500 passengers waited to be processed. Passengers who had connecting flights at EZE were allowed to deplane first.

Passengers were lined up in the jetways and into the outside corridor before being scanned individually by a thermal camera before being allowed to proceed into the terminal and into the immigration hall. Influenza information handouts were distributed in Spanish and English. All the healthcare workers were wearing face masks and white coats. Other airport workers had been issued masks, but many of them were clearly uncomfortable wearing them, and were continually pulling them off their faces.

After being scanned, immigration and baggage claim were fast due to the holdup in screening, and the fact that baggage was unloaded during the time were were waiting on the aircraft after landing. Since I only had one checked bag, I was allowed to exit without X-ray screening (this seemed to be the case with passengers without baggage carts).

I was the fourth passenger off my flight, and because they were interleaving the passengers from all three flights, I was able to exit the airport without a significant delay.

However, if anyone is traveling in the rear of the aircraft, and arriving during the morning arrival bank, there will be a significant holdup in waiting to be processed.

John

Eastbay1K May 3, 2009 12:17 pm


Originally Posted by SoFlyOn (Post 11686969)

Upon landing at EZE, our aircraft was directed to Terminal B (the AR terminal) to deplane, but we had to wait until an AA aircraft was pulled back from the jetway we needed to use.

Isn't Terminal B enough to make almost everyone sick? :D

SoFlyOn May 3, 2009 1:17 pm


Originally Posted by Eastbay1K (Post 11687185)
Isn't Terminal B enough to make almost everyone sick? :D

Not to mention having everyone crowd onto the jetways to await being processed!

The Terminal A vendors are probably very unhappy with this turn of events. But never fear, Global Exchange was offering pesos for sale at only 3.18!

John

Gaucho100K May 3, 2009 1:39 pm

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The forms have been in place for a couple of days now, same as the thermal scanners.

The K regime is doing what it can to look profesional about this whole swine-gate issue.

SoFlyOn May 3, 2009 1:54 pm


Originally Posted by Gaucho100K (Post 11687530)
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The forms have been in place for a couple of days now, same as the thermal scanners.

The K regime is doing what it can to look profesional about this whole swine-gate issue.

Seems a bit pointless since apparently the country's going to explode on June 28, or shortly thereafter ;)

John

Gaucho100K May 3, 2009 5:56 pm

Are you one of NK's foreign advisors....?????

:p

SoFlyOn May 3, 2009 6:58 pm


Originally Posted by Gaucho100K (Post 11688485)
Are you one of NK's foreign advisors....?????

:p

I assumed that Néstor was probably just speaking from personal experience when Cristina doesn't get her way at home.

I'd at least have expected you to be standing as a testimonial candidate for El Partido Acorchado. @:-)

Step up brother Gaucho and testify! :D

John

SoFlyOn May 3, 2009 7:14 pm

If you arrive in Terminal B there is also a Banco de la Nación branch after customs for purchasing pesos. Does anybody know if there are ATMs in Terminal B? Anyway, it's only a short walk to Terminal A to access the HSBC ATMs close to the Farmacity store.

John

Gaucho100K May 4, 2009 4:38 am

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Originally Posted by SoFlyOn

Originally Posted by Gaucho100K (Post 11688485)
Are you one of NK's foreign advisors....?????

:p

I assumed that Néstor was probably just speaking from personal experience when Cristina doesn't get her way at home.

I'd at least have expected you to be standing as a testimonial candidate for El Partido Acorchado. @:-)

Step up brother Gaucho and testify! :D

John

John, I would gladly testify at the impeachment proceedings.

Flying Machine May 30, 2009 8:35 pm


Originally Posted by SoFlyOn (Post 11686969)
I arrived at EZE this morning on UA847 from IAD. All passengers were required to fill out a detailed form from the Argentine Ministry of Health that was distributed during the flight.

Details of previous travel in the past 14 days, and travel after arrival in Argentina were requested, along with addresses and local contact telephone numbers, a contact address and telephone number in the passenger's home country, and an email address. Also details of the arrival flight and seat number were required, along with the usual passport/ID information.

The form was set up for arrival by land, sea, or air, but I don't know whether it has been implemented at other entry points, or for arrivals from other than North America. The form was in Spanish/Portuguese/English, although the English was of poor quality and badly designed, and the form is confusing, since it doesn't detail, for example, the date format required, or whether the departure day or arrival day of the flight should be filled in.

Upon landing at EZE, our aircraft was directed to Terminal B (the AR terminal) to deplane, but we had to wait until an AA aircraft was pulled back from the jetway we needed to use. We had to wait for about 20 minutes on board, since there was not enough room to process all arriving passengers because there were two AA flights that had landed just before the UA flight (at about 9:30 am). Probably there were more than 500 passengers waited to be processed. Passengers who had connecting flights at EZE were allowed to deplane first.

Passengers were lined up in the jetways and into the outside corridor before being scanned individually by a thermal camera before being allowed to proceed into the terminal and into the immigration hall. Influenza information handouts were distributed in Spanish and English. All the healthcare workers were wearing face masks and white coats. Other airport workers had been issued masks, but many of them were clearly uncomfortable wearing them, and were continually pulling them off their faces.

After being scanned, immigration and baggage claim were fast due to the holdup in screening, and the fact that baggage was unloaded during the time were were waiting on the aircraft after landing. Since I only had one checked bag, I was allowed to exit without X-ray screening (this seemed to be the case with passengers without baggage carts).

I was the fourth passenger off my flight, and because they were interleaving the passengers from all three flights, I was able to exit the airport without a significant delay.

However, if anyone is traveling in the rear of the aircraft, and arriving during the morning arrival bank, there will be a significant holdup in waiting to be processed.

John

Does anyone know if this is still going on? I departed last month when the last MX flight was entering. Hand gel and mask city..

Gaucho100K May 30, 2009 8:49 pm

As far as I can tell from the local press reports, this is still going on... all flights from the North American areas that are affected are diverted and processed through terminal B.

Flying Machine May 30, 2009 9:25 pm


Originally Posted by Gaucho100K (Post 11830834)
As far as I can tell from the local press reports, this is still going on... all flights from the North American areas that are affected are diverted and processed through terminal B.

Hi Alex,

Todays UA flights landed at Terminal B and departed from A. Not sure where I Landed in the past, but it did seem rather older than the Departure terminal. Bummer if we are going to be delayed on arrival due to the Swine.. Its kind of over here in the states. Whats your thoughts on the terminals.. Thanks

Gaucho100K May 30, 2009 9:39 pm

Well... EZE is a disgrace as an international airport no matter what terminal you end up in.... of course Terminal B is even worse than A. Suggest you fill out all the paperwork in advance and you should be fine.

Cheers
Alex

lexkid May 31, 2009 9:12 am


Originally Posted by Gaucho100K (Post 11830979)
Well... EZE is a disgrace as an international airport no matter what terminal you end up in.... of course Terminal B is even worse than A. Suggest you fill out all the paperwork in advance and you should be fine.

Cheers
Alex

I will be going to Buenos Aires on June 4. Do you think they will be doing the health checks then?

davescharf May 31, 2009 5:01 pm

This was still going on at MDZ as of 5/18 (granted different airport and now nearly two weeks ago). They just looked at our form and let us off when everything looked normal.


Of course, even when we flew back on the 26th they were still wearing the masks in the airport everywhere you went.

Flying Machine Jun 2, 2009 1:49 pm


Originally Posted by davescharf (Post 11834346)
This was still going on at MDZ as of 5/18 (granted different airport and now nearly two weeks ago). They just looked at our form and let us off when everything looked normal.


Of course, even when we flew back on the 26th they were still wearing the masks in the airport everywhere you went.

Landed today via UA at 8:50 at the gate at 9:00 filled out Health form on plane. Walked off the jetway 2 guys in scrubs taking forms 1 looks at mine, said to pass, I then smiled for the gal with the heat sensor viedo machine, pass immigration, get bag ( priorty tag ) tell guy going to global exchange its a rip off 3.20 vs 3.72 then went myself to bank of nation right outside bag check to get pesos, buy manuel tienda leon ticket.. board 9:30 bus. This was record time.. all went well..
40 minutes from tarmac to bus..

Lovecraft Jun 2, 2009 2:33 pm


Originally Posted by Flying Machine (Post 11844874)
tell guy going to global exchange its a rip off 3.20 vs 3.72

So there're people actually doing this? More than once I was tempted to tell someone going to Global xchange to back off, but I was afraid they might take it the wrong way, like I'm a tout or something.
But I think I'll do it next time.:D

Gaucho100K Jun 2, 2009 8:04 pm

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Originally Posted by lexkid

Originally Posted by Gaucho100K (Post 11830979)
Well... EZE is a disgrace as an international airport no matter what terminal you end up in.... of course Terminal B is even worse than A. Suggest you fill out all the paperwork in advance and you should be fine.

Cheers
Alex

I will be going to Buenos Aires on June 4. Do you think they will be doing the health checks then?

Yes... the checks will still be there.

Gaucho100K Jun 2, 2009 8:04 pm

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Originally Posted by Lovecraft

Originally Posted by Flying Machine (Post 11844874)
tell guy going to global exchange its a rip off 3.20 vs 3.72

So there're people actually doing this? More than once I was tempted to tell someone going to Global xchange to back off, but I was afraid they might take it the wrong way, like I'm a tout or something.
But I think I'll do it next time.:D

I do this all the time.

ksuckow Jun 3, 2009 6:55 am

I arrived yesterday morning and would like to provide an update to the health screening. They are now passing out surgical masks and requiring all passengers to wear them through the screening area. Plan on this procedure adding 30 minutes to your transit time.

Gaucho100K Jun 3, 2009 2:08 pm


Originally Posted by ksuckow (Post 11848586)
I arrived yesterday morning and would like to provide an update to the health screening. They are now passing out surgical masks and requiring all passengers to wear them through the screening area. Plan on this procedure adding 30 minutes to your transit time.

Thanks for this update... ^

ozstamps Jun 6, 2009 11:25 am


Originally Posted by ksuckow (Post 11848586)

I arrived yesterday morning and would like to provide an update to the health screening. They are now passing out surgical masks and requiring all passengers to wear them through the screening area. Plan on this procedure adding 30 minutes to your transit time.

Same on UA this morning. But it only added 30 seconds to the time for the heat photos.

UA passed out makes to all pax, and made all pax put on the mask BEFORE they got off the pane.

Have a photo off all in Biz Class with these idiotic little blue masks on! Have a photo too of the FAs wearing them which is pretty funny!

60 seconds later when you get to customs (none of who were wearing masks ... duuurrrrhhhhhhh) the guy tells us to take the masks off so he could see our faces matched those on passports.

Bureaucratic insanity gone MAD.

Swine flu is like any flu .. if you get it, you are a bit woozy for 2 days like the last 20 flus you have ever had.

They'd be far smarter doing a HIV screening of pax where folks can and do die for sure, and not this little bug. @:-)

Gaucho100K Jun 6, 2009 12:01 pm

Glen.... chill out doode... remember you are on vacation, not haggling with some loonie stamp collector, ok..??? :p BTW, I will take this porky flu any day... just steer me away from an HIV pandemic... :eek:

ozstamps Jun 13, 2009 9:09 pm

I have never seen a nation so obseesed with a flu .. which millions of folks get each year under some name or other.

At check-in at El Calafante for gawdsakes all the agents had the thick plastic hard masks.

Get to Sheraton Liberatador tonight, and there is a note from Operations Manager in room, with a warning AND a free mask to use.

You folks are treating this tiny nuisance like it is the Bubonic Plague!

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...0FOUR/1-18.jpg

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Gaucho100K Jun 14, 2009 6:54 am

I thought the idea was to better be safe than sorry.... or is that not a 1st world concept....? ;)

Great pics btw... ^

JDiver Jun 14, 2009 8:24 am

Well, I had the same deal on arrival June 12 - forms, masks, thermal imaging, the works. And WHO has declared "pandemic."

So, is it paranoia, or infectious Kirchnerismo at its worst? I don't think so, and experienced much more thorough "works" last month in China (they'd like to keep this flu from spreading in 1.3 billion people, many in very densely populated cities, or in remote areas underserved by health care.

A little history may be in order: this is an influenza A H1N1 variant. Another variety of H1N1 reared its head in the world in Spring of 1918 (or possibly earlier, but it was not clearly documented)- it had a somewhat distinct characteristic of hitting healthy young people with presumably intact immune systems pretty hard, though initially it appeared mild and went away rapidly as summer invaded the northern hemisphere.

It returned in winter, and in about 18 months felled perhaps 40 - 100 million people before it faded away. It was called, probably incorrectly given we did not have the global communications and public health monitoring we have to day, the "Spanish" flu.

Flu viruses mutate quite rapidly, and H5N1 flus got worse each time they appeared. If H1Ni "Spanish" "swine" flu caused the worst pandemic in recorded history, I can't say I blame the medics and health authorities for being slightly worried. And it is definitely getting chilly (winter is coming) in Bs As.

Malbec presumably has high levels of resveratrol, so perhaps it will help... :D

tcook052 Jun 19, 2009 12:37 pm


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 11905259)
Well, I had the same deal on arrival June 12 - forms, masks, thermal imaging, the works.

I arrived in UA on the 12th June to the same thing, though luckily the screening wasn´t as intense when returning back from an overnight in Colonia. Note the same form has to be completed even when returning from Colonia for a night stay.

Sadly I read in the paper today (Herald) another Argentine has been claimed by this virus. :(

Gaucho100K Jun 19, 2009 2:21 pm

While cause for some inconvenience... I think that with all things related to this flu its better to be safe than sorry.

ozstamps Jun 22, 2009 8:25 pm

More folks die a year from Kangaroo bites than this.

A total nonsense.

EVERY year there is flu and EVERY year a few folks die from it.

Get over it.

Typical Latin panic for no good reason.


Eastbay1K Jun 22, 2009 9:18 pm


Originally Posted by ozstamps (Post 11952215)
More folks die a year from Kangaroo bites than this.

A total nonsense.

EVERY year there is flu and EVERY year a few folks die from it.

Get over it.

Typical Latin panic for no good reason.

In their defense, they just had a dengue fever outbreak that some thought the government didn't react strongly/quickly enough over. I bet you that many skittish travelers who just got off their de lujo cruises were relieved to see a mask in their room.

And yes, I will probably be P.O.d if next month, when I'm there, I have to go through "the special terminal" and disembark with my mask, when the clerk who last year didn't even want to let me declare imports I needed to and wanted to declare, will be scanning me for fever.

Besides, if "Typical Latin panic" didn't exist, the futbol games would be very boring.

ozstamps Jun 22, 2009 9:33 pm


Originally Posted by Eastbay1K (Post 11952543)

Besides, if "Typical Latin panic" didn't exist, the futbol games would be very boring.

Yes the Argies do THAT well! Despite the fact the main Stadium should be bulldozed!

Went to see the World Cup Qualifying match a couple of weeks back in Buenos Aires .. Argentina vs Columbia.

Booked via a ticket service who collected at hotel at 3pm and dropped back at Hotel .. went like a dream.

Packed Stadium, and WHAT a noisy and fun experience! Sat next to a keen UK fan who was also travelling, who said the crowds in UK NEVER get that involved.

Also sat next to a BA local who spoke perfect English who was given his ticket by a tourist friend who could not make it.

Coach Maradonna stalked the perimeter. They JUST won, 1-0 and were outplayed by Columbia most felt. :mrgreen:

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Held at the rather ridiculously named “El Monumental de Nuñez” or River Plate Stadium, which was a JOKE re crowd safety or amenities, that would be closed down or nuked in any other first world country is my guess.

No-one sat were their ticket said. Many of the seats were busted and missing.

No ushers to ensure no-one moved once seated.

Fans totally blocked all downward stairways for entire match. :mad:

Impossible to move anywhere. In any kind of Emergency it would be a total death trap. :td: :td:

These vendor guys clambered among the tight packed crowd like monkeys, selling cokes and food etc. (Beer totally banned in Sth America stadiums - ANYWHERE.)

How they moved one metre beat me, but they clambered all over everyone for 2 hours. They sure earned their pesos.


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But as you say .. great passion - from supporters of both sides. :)

Glen


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