Spanish Lesson for the Flyertalker
 

To native speakers, particularly in Argentina as that's where I'm soon headed...

I'm sure I could muddle through and with literal translations get my message across in spanish, but what is the proper way to say:

Has my seat been upgraded?
Has my room been upgraded to a suite?
Could you upgrade my room to a suite? (or room with a view)

Economy Class
Business Class
First Class

Starwood Preferred Guest Platinum/Gold Member
Priority Club (Royal) Ambassador

Reservation
Hotel Room
Room rate
Suite
Nonsmoking room
I am allergic to smoke

Do I have access to the Executive Lounge
Do I have access to the fitness/exercise room
Do I have access to the minibar for free

BOGO

And for Argentina, please remind me how to conjugate to vosotros, such as:
hablar
comer
venir
ir
jugar (and others where the root changes)

Any other userful spanish flyertalk phrases you can think of? Thanks!

A lot of the things don't translate well - or the English word is the word. I won't tackle all of them:

Has my seat been upgraded?
Has my room been upgraded to a suite?
Could you upgrade my room to a suite? (or room with a view)

Economy Class - Clase Basura
Business Class - Clase Ejecutiva or Business (depending on the airline)
First Class - Primera Clase

Starwood Preferred Guest Platinum/Gold Member - Platinum / Oro (the SPG hotels will use the English metalic name)
Priority Club (Royal) Ambassador - Mejor que sos

Reservation - Reserva
Hotel Room - Habitacion
Room rate - Tarifa
Suite - Suite
Nonsmoking room - Hab. no fumadores
I am allergic to smoke - Tengo alergia a humo.

Do I have access to the Executive Lounge - ¿Tengo acesso a Salon Vip?

(My computer just flipped and some of the text disappeared, I'll have to reply to some later.)

And for Argentina, please remind me how to conjugate to vosotros, such as:
hablar
comer
venir
ir
jugar (and others where the root changes)

Argentina DOES NOT USE vosotros. Argentina uses vos, instead of tu. You (plural) is always Ustedes.

In a nutshell, most irregular verbs become regular (almost) in the vos form, with an accent over the last vowel. (I'm not going to remember all the codes for the accents now, just remember, accent over the last vowel).

Ejemplo.
Poder - (Vos) podes
Tener - Tenes
Contar - Contas
Querer - Queres

Ser becomes "sos" - ¿Vos sos estadounidense?"

The LL is generally pronounced like a "sh", as is a "y".

Yo llegue a la calle con una toalla).
(sho shaygay a la cashay con una toasha)

Maybe in Chile they're that polite! Expect to be called a yanqui "shankee" (from yanquilandia of course).

Wiki has a brief synopsis of castellano rioplatense:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rioplatense_Spanish

¿De donde sos? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wDBEWTSlH0

Trash Class...??? (!!!) :eek:

Basura = Garbage, Trash, etc.

Unless you want to completely ruin your chances of an upgrade, I suggest you say;

Clase Economica, or Clase Turista....

if you still want to get 'funny', perhaps you should mention Economy as "El Gallinero"... :p

BTW... this thread is just what we needed here on the Argentina Fora.... los dos gringos (SoFlyOn and Eastbay1K) trying to teach proper Argentine Spanish... :rolleyes: :p :eek: :D

Oh well then, lets have the lovely porteña Laura explain it all.

Lunfardo lesson #1 "coima":
http://www.argentinepost.com/2008/12...-hd-coima.html
:cool::D

John

Bravo^^

On United, it has been reported to be called garbage class, but CNN reports that they are cleaning it up. They have a guru de basura now.

message from SoFlyOn's computer:

Please remove the drool from my keyboard !!!!!! :eek: :mad:

message from Gaucho:

Stop looking at Laurita's Jugs !!!!! :rolleyes:

Pero las gomas son truchas, ¿no?

Lunfardo lesson #2: "trucho":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaTnS...e=channel_page
^
John

Who gives a ....... if they are ???? :p

Che zarpado!

Lunfardo lesson #3: "zarpado":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZhgA...e=channel_page

John

:D^

Exactly why I gave this thread a wide berth when I opened it. Anyway most of the asked for translations will not be necessary as the people you will be dealing with - hotel/airline and asking those questions shall most likely understand English. ;)

Lunfardo "Lessions" :confused:
That's a bad start.

Nothing wrong with Lunfardo, actually..... its fun for us locals to hear extranjeros try to speak it.... great laughs!!! :D

Of course not, I just meant the spelling.