So what's the situation "on the ground" with the currency crisis?
Jun 9, 2018, 3:07 am
#31
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MY word in italics
no gasoline in the provinces (repeatedly)
Can happen in many developing countries.
Cannot happen in e.g. neighbouring Chile. Argentina once was a developed country and suffers from a trauma of becoming a developing one...
no cash at ATMs, low ATM limits
Been to Greece?
Greece...one matching comparison on the whole globe. Nothing to cheer up about, really
A limit of ~USD 100 with USD 6 fee per withdrawal from the ATM... Is it normal? Thailand comes in mind with its USD 5 fee (Bath 150) but no limit of USD 100 per withdrawal.
Automated cash dyspenser are …. hmm automated and thus free in most cases (no fee) in all the developed world..
long remise lines at the airports
Remise?
Delete the word "remise" and you get the clear message.
In my personal experience I compare my entering/exiting Brazil, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, Uruguay and I must admit the Agentinian experience is the worst among those listed.
It is not the South American spirit but something specific to Argentina that has them work in an "oblivious to the word" manner.
Arriving at EZE after a 12 hours flight and and joining the line at Migraciones which hardly moves because the clerks/officers like to work at a snail speed.
Again, somehow they don't in Brazil, Chile, Peru, Bolivia etc. Why? There's no-one at the higher level who sees that? Or nobody cares? But visitors' first impression is the lasting impression, isn't it?
no gasoline in the provinces (repeatedly)
Can happen in many developing countries.
Cannot happen in e.g. neighbouring Chile. Argentina once was a developed country and suffers from a trauma of becoming a developing one...
no cash at ATMs, low ATM limits
Been to Greece?
Greece...one matching comparison on the whole globe. Nothing to cheer up about, really
A limit of ~USD 100 with USD 6 fee per withdrawal from the ATM... Is it normal? Thailand comes in mind with its USD 5 fee (Bath 150) but no limit of USD 100 per withdrawal.
Automated cash dyspenser are …. hmm automated and thus free in most cases (no fee) in all the developed world..
long remise lines at the airports
Remise?
Delete the word "remise" and you get the clear message.
In my personal experience I compare my entering/exiting Brazil, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, Uruguay and I must admit the Agentinian experience is the worst among those listed.
It is not the South American spirit but something specific to Argentina that has them work in an "oblivious to the word" manner.
Arriving at EZE after a 12 hours flight and and joining the line at Migraciones which hardly moves because the clerks/officers like to work at a snail speed.
Again, somehow they don't in Brazil, Chile, Peru, Bolivia etc. Why? There's no-one at the higher level who sees that? Or nobody cares? But visitors' first impression is the lasting impression, isn't it?
Jun 9, 2018, 5:47 am
#32
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Maybe not Chile, but again in many developing countries.
Regarding ATM's. Which are we talking about here, machines running out of money or fees? The conversation was not about fees, but the "convenience" of using many foreign cards at US ATM's is $3-5 dollars depending on the state and bank, so that is pretty widespread. Regarding machines running out of cash, was a big thing in Turkey just in the last few weeks, and can happen anywhere where there is currency turbulence.
As for entering, yes it can be a shambles, notice my comments above about Ipad's IMEI's and the like!
Regarding ATM's. Which are we talking about here, machines running out of money or fees? The conversation was not about fees, but the "convenience" of using many foreign cards at US ATM's is $3-5 dollars depending on the state and bank, so that is pretty widespread. Regarding machines running out of cash, was a big thing in Turkey just in the last few weeks, and can happen anywhere where there is currency turbulence.
As for entering, yes it can be a shambles, notice my comments above about Ipad's IMEI's and the like!
Jun 9, 2018, 3:15 pm
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True, but when one reads of someone experiencing this and that, and then this and that again, and then this and that again and again, and then this and that again and again and again, and then when the price gets too high, continues to experience this and that again and again and again and again and then complains ...
Jun 9, 2018, 3:24 pm
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True, but when one reads of someone experiencing this and that, and then this and that again, and then this and that again and again, and then this and that again and again and again, and then when the price gets too high, continues to experience this and that again and again and again and again and then complains ...
Jun 9, 2018, 3:25 pm
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Jun 10, 2018, 3:27 am
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Originally Posted by Gaucho100
this and that, and then this and that again, and then this and that again and again, and then this and that again and again and again,
Last edited by abeyro; Jun 10, 2018 at 8:48 am
Jun 10, 2018, 9:08 am
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Some of the posts by the OP tend to give the impression he wants the country to be run in a way that suits his wallet rather than the country's inhabitants. Nothing wrong with him having his say but it's not of much use to those who are planning a first time visit to the country. They aren't interested in what the US dollar used to get you here in the past.
Jun 10, 2018, 11:38 am
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Some of the posts by the OP tend to give the impression he wants the country to be run in a way that suits his wallet rather than the country's inhabitants. Nothing wrong with him having his say but it's not of much use to those who are planning a first time visit to the country. They aren't interested in what the US dollar used to get you here in the past.
Jun 13, 2018, 5:59 pm
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I am going to both SCL and EZE in December (first timer). Would love any suggestions/advice on hotels, rest etc.
Also, plan on getting from SCL to Califate to go to Patagonia for 3-4 days. Any advice on airlines, flights, and backpacking companies would be awesome.
Also, plan on getting from SCL to Califate to go to Patagonia for 3-4 days. Any advice on airlines, flights, and backpacking companies would be awesome.
Jun 13, 2018, 7:07 pm
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Might I suggest that you start another thread(s) as appropriate that won't get muddled in the currency crisis quilombo thread.
Jun 14, 2018, 10:55 am
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