Acela return, June 1
May 8, 20, 8:12 pm
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Acela return, June 1
Good news -- https://www.washingtonpost.com/trans...rd-new-normal/
Three Acela routes a day
Bad news -- CDC still recommends a 14 day quarantine when returning from New York!
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...or%2014%20days.
"It remains our guidance that residents who were recently in the affected areas of New York, out of an abundance of caution, should self-quarantine for 14 days."
Maybe this will be resolved by June 1?
Three Acela routes a day
Bad news -- CDC still recommends a 14 day quarantine when returning from New York!
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...or%2014%20days.
"It remains our guidance that residents who were recently in the affected areas of New York, out of an abundance of caution, should self-quarantine for 14 days."
Maybe this will be resolved by June 1?
May 10, 20, 4:35 pm
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Another update -- all passengers to wear face masks or coverings at all times, except when seated alone or with a companion.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/trans...rs-wear-masks/
Still no clarity as to enforcing social distancing on the train itself, e.g., blocking every other row. Or, for that matter, in Union Station and NY Penn Station!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/trans...rs-wear-masks/
Still no clarity as to enforcing social distancing on the train itself, e.g., blocking every other row. Or, for that matter, in Union Station and NY Penn Station!
May 14, 20, 9:37 am
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Another update -- all passengers to wear face masks or coverings at all times, except when seated alone or with a companion.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/trans...rs-wear-masks/
Still no clarity as to enforcing social distancing on the train itself, e.g., blocking every other row. Or, for that matter, in Union Station and NY Penn Station!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/trans...rs-wear-masks/
Still no clarity as to enforcing social distancing on the train itself, e.g., blocking every other row. Or, for that matter, in Union Station and NY Penn Station!
And that's WAS. Trying to enforce social distancing at NYP at rush hour would be an utter joke under anything close to normal circumstances. In the case of NYC, the problem (and no small part of why the virus went as wild there as it did) is that in a lot of respects, social distancing is just flat-out impossible.
May 14, 20, 10:20 am
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I mean, I think part of the problem is that at various stations (NYP, WAS, included) there's basically no way to enforce it if you have a reasonably full load of pax boarding. If you have 200+ pax boarding a train at WAS (hardly unheard-of for some peak-hour Regionals) then the resulting queue would have to stretch for over 1200 feet. And of course, that's before we get into the rush hour loads of MARC/VRE commuters.
And that's WAS. Trying to enforce social distancing at NYP at rush hour would be an utter joke under anything close to normal circumstances. In the case of NYC, the problem (and no small part of why the virus went as wild there as it did) is that in a lot of respects, social distancing is just flat-out impossible.
And that's WAS. Trying to enforce social distancing at NYP at rush hour would be an utter joke under anything close to normal circumstances. In the case of NYC, the problem (and no small part of why the virus went as wild there as it did) is that in a lot of respects, social distancing is just flat-out impossible.
May 15, 20, 6:17 pm
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WAS was a mess. Then they took the roped lines away, and it was a BIG mess. Then they put them back, and it's just a mess again. NYP? My God, that is the most ridiculous thing ever. No one knows what track the trains are coming in. Everyone stands there watching the board, then everyone dashes to the escalator. No social distancing there.
NYP is a textbook example of poor design, at least as to Amtrak (I have never taken NJ Transit or LIRR, but those are probably just as inefficient).
May 18, 20, 7:34 pm
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Amen! I wonder if the "new" NYP -- to be built across 7th Street, in the old Farley Post Office building, will have a much more spacious waiting area and/or better designed track level so that there's less crowding on the tracks. Compare with PHL, which has very wide platforms at the track level.
NYP is a textbook example of poor design, at least as to Amtrak (I have never taken NJ Transit or LIRR, but those are probably just as inefficient).
NYP is a textbook example of poor design, at least as to Amtrak (I have never taken NJ Transit or LIRR, but those are probably just as inefficient).
Jul 28, 20, 2:21 pm
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Amen! I wonder if the "new" NYP -- to be built across 7th Street, in the old Farley Post Office building, will have a much more spacious waiting area and/or better designed track level so that there's less crowding on the tracks. Compare with PHL, which has very wide platforms at the track level.
Another part of the problem is that NYP is constrained at 21 tracks (4 of which terminate), and so trains can't stay at a platform very long without impacting capacity. This leads to the "load and go" model with 10 minute boarding windows. That said, there's no reason at (eg) WAS or BOS that trains can't board 20 or 30 minutes before departure, since they're usually sitting there empty anyway.
Anyway, the reason I'm kicking this thread... I just got an email with some really low Acela fares... $69/ow between NY and DC (14 day AP, sale ends 8/31 for travel through 9/12). I don't think I've ever seen Acela fares that low on that segment.
Also, this interesting piece of news: "New on Acela: Starting August 3, we will automatically reserve you a seat on your Acela reservation. Want to sit in the Quiet Car or at a conference table? You can change your seat easily on the Amtrak app, Amtrak.com or on board."
Jul 29, 20, 7:52 am
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In the long run, I like the idea, but getting people adjusted to this will be a bear.
Jul 29, 20, 3:05 pm
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Interesting. I didn't get the email, but this doesn't shock me, given that they rolled assigned seating out on Acela First Class a year or two ago. I do think it will lead to mass confusion though as people get used to it - it was bad enough in First within a single car. I can only imagine the traffic jams along the rest of the train if (when) people get on the wrong car and have to walk 3 or 4 cars up to find their seat.
In the long run, I like the idea, but getting people adjusted to this will be a bear.
In the long run, I like the idea, but getting people adjusted to this will be a bear.
