Washington Post: The end of an American tradition: The Amtrak dining car
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...476_story.html
...Amtrak says it is reinventing its dining service on long-distance trains, killing the traditional dining car to create more “flexible” and “contemporary” dining options.... With the transition, Amtrak is doing away with the traditional onboard kitchen, switching to serving prepackaged meals and easing restrictions on the traditional serving times. The change allows the railroad to cut costs associated with cooking aboard and keeping up with the white-tablecloth service that was once known to rival high-end restaurants and clubs.... |
There’s quite a bit of info about this in a recent Rail Passengers Association blog post: Link
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Amtrak channeling Alex Cruz of British Airways and his "enhancement" program.
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Originally Posted by Weasler
(Post 31551380)
Another stupid decision made in consideration only of
the dumbass cell-phone glued misguided millennials. Really dumb. "The railroad anticipates the change will save it about $2 million a year." and this is another hard to believe statement: “Some people, especially our new millennial customers, don’t like it so much. They want more privacy, they don’t want to feel uncomfortable sitting next to people” they don’t know." Right, do not feel comfortable sitting next to people they do not know -- so on an airplane do they go on a hunger strike? Afraid to sit at a bar? Or go to one of the big coffee chains where there are communal tables? I consider this millennial statement the same way I do for many "enhancements" -- PR double talk. |
our new millennial customers signed, a millennial who has been riding Amtrak for fourteen years and would really quite like to eat a proper meal at a proper table |
On my Amtrak trip last fall, which was 8 hours and not overnight, I did not buy first class because I did not need a bed. The dining car reservations were booked up by first class, which includes meals, and people who got on at previous stops. They don't take advance reservations. Almost got no meal at all, grudgingly squeezed in for a hamburger, which was all that was left. Plain hamburger patty on a bun, no toppings at all, and potato chips. The dining car staff had a bad attitude. A prepackaged meal would have been a step up.
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Originally Posted by Tizzette
(Post 31552653)
On my Amtrak trip last fall, which was 8 hours and not overnight, I did not buy first class because I did not need a bed. The dining car reservations were booked up by first class, which includes meals, and people who got on at previous stops. They don't take advance reservations. Almost got no meal at all, grudgingly squeezed in for a hamburger, which was all that was left. Plain hamburger patty on a bun, no toppings at all, and potato chips. The dining car staff had a bad attitude. A prepackaged meal would have been a step up.
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Starting with its opening paragraph, the article describes the AMTK dining car experience as it was 10 -15 years ago. It doesn’t reflect current dining car conditions, I.e. throw away china or the lack of real table linens. Another example, eggs cooked to order. This hasn’t been offered since at least 2014, when AMTK began to use a processed scrambled egg mixture, and eliminated any use of fresh eggs.
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Originally Posted by SCEflyer
(Post 31553480)
Starting with its opening paragraph, the article describes the AMTK dining car experience as it was 10 -15 years ago. It doesn’t reflect current dining car conditions, I.e. throw away china or the lack of real table linens. Another example, eggs cooked to order. This hasn’t been offered since at least 2014, when AMTK began to use a processed scrambled egg mixture, and eliminated any use of fresh eggs.
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Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 31553510)
Bottom line is that this is about table linens and china, not the quality of the food. If done right, it is perfectly good to finish the meals onboard.
One point that was not discussed in the article is the skeletal staff in the diners, and the occasional bad attitudes that they display. This last point in particular has caused many passengers to declare “never again”, when it comes to future travel on AMTK. |
There is a photo up on the Amtrak website: https://www.amtrak.com/onboard/meals...le-dining.html
Already experienced this on the Lake Shore Limited last month, although it was served in a bento box sort of container. Curious to see if they actually will use glassware going forward... somehow I doubt it. I do not think they did on the LSL last month. On the trip to Chicago this was "new", so at least novel and "ok", but by the return trip I had had enough of it. It might just be enough to keep me off the long distance trains in the future. Not sure, time will tell. |
There is no question the dining experience could be updated and improved, but elimination of freshly prepared food in dining car is not the answer.
If Amtrak CEO actually rode the long distance trains he would discover that his clientele are (1) mostly older people (some with $$, some not) and (2) millennials with no extra $$ and (3) foreign tourists who don't know better. Most of the people in the dining car were people who booked bedrooms or couchettes not the folks traveling in the cheap seats. Hip millennials who want to eat alone at their seats - well these don't exist as they fly B6 or some hip airline, not Amtrak long distance sleepers. I would love to see a menu update for both the dining car and the snack bar, particularly to add healthy options. I would love to see dining hours extended beyond the fixed times. But getting rid of the dining car is just plain stupid, except as a cost cutting exercise (and we all know that's the real story here). |
not to mention the food is overpriced for the quality they serve
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Originally Posted by dx3003
(Post 31556273)
not to mention the food is overpriced for the quality they serve
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Originally Posted by dx3003
(Post 31556273)
not to mention the food is overpriced for the quality they serve
Yes, the menu options should be diversified and made healthier. Yes, the service delivery needs work. Yes, the timing should be flexible. But the heat should be squarely on Congress for statutorily mandating that Amtrak's food service make a profit. It's totally asinine micromanaging, and the Rep. who agitated to insert that poison pill in the last reauthorization (John Mica) was turfed out two elections ago. |
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