When does Amex report to credit agencies?
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When does Amex report to credit agencies?
Given all the discussion about FICO scores and credit utilization, I'd like to make sure I optimize my payments.
I have SPG & Delta amex credit cards, and a couple of charge cards. I always try to pay them off before the month ends, and at any rate before the statement closes.
When does Amex report? At month end? When running your statement? When requested? At random times?
thanks all.
I have SPG & Delta amex credit cards, and a couple of charge cards. I always try to pay them off before the month ends, and at any rate before the statement closes.
When does Amex report? At month end? When running your statement? When requested? At random times?
thanks all.
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Wondering also
Given all the discussion about FICO scores and credit utilization, I'd like to make sure I optimize my payments.
I have SPG & Delta amex credit cards, and a couple of charge cards. I always try to pay them off before the month ends, and at any rate before the statement closes.
When does Amex report? At month end? When running your statement? When requested? At random times?
thanks all.
I have SPG & Delta amex credit cards, and a couple of charge cards. I always try to pay them off before the month ends, and at any rate before the statement closes.
When does Amex report? At month end? When running your statement? When requested? At random times?
thanks all.
Amex has raised the limit on the account at least twice in the last year to several times my normal spend without me requesting it.
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Usually they report every month before sending out a new statement so that any deliquent payments can reflect in your credit report accordingly.
Example. If you missed one or two payments in a month they note that accordingly as 30 and 45 day late payments. This can have an impact on your credit score.
Sanosuke!
Example. If you missed one or two payments in a month they note that accordingly as 30 and 45 day late payments. This can have an impact on your credit score.
Sanosuke!
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I've always heard that Amex takes data from credit reporting agencies but doesn't contribute. That was why having a spotless Amex record didn't help your credit rating. Am I wrong? It was something to do with Amex being a 'charge' card and not a 'credit' card if I remember correctly.
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I've always heard that Amex takes data from credit reporting agencies but doesn't contribute. That was why having a spotless Amex record didn't help your credit rating. Am I wrong? It was something to do with Amex being a 'charge' card and not a 'credit' card if I remember correctly.
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Sorry for resurrecting an old thread.
How does reporting charge cards work since it does not have a spending limit? I have found that they report the balance of the card as the limit, but doesn't that affect my score as showing 100% utilization of the credit limit?
Thanx for your help.
How does reporting charge cards work since it does not have a spending limit? I have found that they report the balance of the card as the limit, but doesn't that affect my score as showing 100% utilization of the credit limit?
Thanx for your help.
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I suggest you read this article:
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/cred...edit-card.aspx
VantageScore and newer versions of the FICO scoring model exclude charge card balances from utilization. Thus, high balances on charge cards do not impact the person's debt ratio. In previous editions of the FICO score, charge card balances did factor into utilization. The "high credit" for the account was used in place of the limit. "High credit" refers to the largest monthly balance a cardholder has had during a period of time.
Inasmuch as this is a recent change (article published January 2010), I would not assume the calculation is necessarily the same in Canada.
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/cred...edit-card.aspx
VantageScore and newer versions of the FICO scoring model exclude charge card balances from utilization. Thus, high balances on charge cards do not impact the person's debt ratio. In previous editions of the FICO score, charge card balances did factor into utilization. The "high credit" for the account was used in place of the limit. "High credit" refers to the largest monthly balance a cardholder has had during a period of time.
Inasmuch as this is a recent change (article published January 2010), I would not assume the calculation is necessarily the same in Canada.
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Keep in mind also that the OP question was when credit reporting takes place. Without going into boring detail, reporting takes place almost every day. However, an account is not reported as "past due" until it passes one "Cycle" delinquent. That means that even if you don't pay on the due date the account will not be reported as delinquent unless you do not pay iot before the next payment due date. So, don't worry about the credit reporting side of this if you're a day or two late in paying the bill.
American Express is far more generous than most in allowing slightly late payments without imposing fees. However, duw to new regulations all credit cards will see far mor stringent rules applied for fee imposition than were normal until now. Bein g even one day late will get a late fee from many card companies now, not usually American Express, as I said.
So, no credit reporting problem for a day or two late, but be prepared for possible late fees.
lastly, the new regulations that are causing more stringent rules are in the US, Canada and the EU. The specific regulations differ quite a bit, but the net consumer impact is very similar.
American Express is far more generous than most in allowing slightly late payments without imposing fees. However, duw to new regulations all credit cards will see far mor stringent rules applied for fee imposition than were normal until now. Bein g even one day late will get a late fee from many card companies now, not usually American Express, as I said.
So, no credit reporting problem for a day or two late, but be prepared for possible late fees.
lastly, the new regulations that are causing more stringent rules are in the US, Canada and the EU. The specific regulations differ quite a bit, but the net consumer impact is very similar.
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I've always heard that Amex takes data from credit reporting agencies but doesn't contribute. That was why having a spotless Amex record didn't help your credit rating. Am I wrong? It was something to do with Amex being a 'charge' card and not a 'credit' card if I remember correctly.
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I thought the no preset limit spending cards weren't supposed to be calculated in the utilization schedule?
Anyone know when FIA reports to the credit bureaus? I'm hoping when the bank pulls my credit report prior to closing that the balance will reflect my payment of the entire amount the day the statement came out.