Pay UK IDC card from US Bank Account?
#1
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Pay UK IDC card from US Bank Account?
I remember reading about someone paying his UK-issued IDC from a US bank account through the bank's bill payment interface. I know that you can always wire the money to American Express Bank in NY, but is it also possible to use you own bank's bill payment service? What payment address would I select? My bank's bill payment interface shows two Amex entries, one in Florida and another one in Arizona?
Anybody has done this successfully? And if so, how long does it take for the payment to be credited to your account?
Thanks...
Anybody has done this successfully? And if so, how long does it take for the payment to be credited to your account?
Thanks...
#2
Join Date: Apr 2005
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I remember reading about someone paying his UK-issued IDC from a US bank account through the bank's bill payment interface. I know that you can always wire the money to American Express Bank in NY, but is it also possible to use you own bank's bill payment service? What payment address would I select? My bank's bill payment interface shows two Amex entries, one in Florida and another one in Arizona?
Anybody has done this successfully? And if so, how long does it take for the payment to be credited to your account?
Thanks...
Anybody has done this successfully? And if so, how long does it take for the payment to be credited to your account?
Thanks...
#3
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Yes, I do . When I setup American Express online I used the New York address provided for wire transfers, but it appears my bank ignored this and simply transmits the payment the same as any other domestic USA account, and American Express applies it correctly using the card account number. Inasmuch as the statements are created and mailed from Fort Lauderdale I would choose that addressif your bank will not allow you to type in another.
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stickskier - Thanks. Any news on the payment? Did it work and how long did it take? I am thinking of making a small payment as well, before sending the full amount due.
#6
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The trial transfer went through in around 3 days so I've sent the main payment now. Glad it worked because I hate cheques (sorry I'm in the US now - checks.)
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I've been paying IDC charges through the Bill Pay service on my U.S. bank account for about two years. Payments post usually within two or three business days after the U.S. bill pay service withdraws the money from my account.
I would just recommend you keep an eye on the posting through the IDC website. After sending an initial test payment when I started using bill pay, the second payment I made, which happened to be substantial, was completely lost in the financial network for about eight weeks. IDC London was very understanding--once I provided them documentation from the bill pay service that the payment had been completed, no effort was made to place a hold on my IDC account. However, I did get a run around-- IDC initially told me to go back to the bill pay service and have the payment recalled. AMEX US would not provide any assistance. Ultimately I had to press IDC that they needed to work the payment back through their channels and the amount was ultimately credited to my account. Since then I have made about two dozen payments and never had a problem.
As a side-bar comment: I have concluded that AVS (address verification system) simply does not work with my IDC. If I wish to buy something through the internet or mail-order from a U.S. merchant that strictly insists on address verification, I have to use another card. Adding addresses through customer service does not seem to help. The system rejects even when the item is being sent to the address that matches exactly with my card statement.
I would just recommend you keep an eye on the posting through the IDC website. After sending an initial test payment when I started using bill pay, the second payment I made, which happened to be substantial, was completely lost in the financial network for about eight weeks. IDC London was very understanding--once I provided them documentation from the bill pay service that the payment had been completed, no effort was made to place a hold on my IDC account. However, I did get a run around-- IDC initially told me to go back to the bill pay service and have the payment recalled. AMEX US would not provide any assistance. Ultimately I had to press IDC that they needed to work the payment back through their channels and the amount was ultimately credited to my account. Since then I have made about two dozen payments and never had a problem.
As a side-bar comment: I have concluded that AVS (address verification system) simply does not work with my IDC. If I wish to buy something through the internet or mail-order from a U.S. merchant that strictly insists on address verification, I have to use another card. Adding addresses through customer service does not seem to help. The system rejects even when the item is being sent to the address that matches exactly with my card statement.
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I have to agree with you on the AVS part. The "one-and-only" merchant I never had problems with was/is Amazon.com. Lately, even CITGO gas stations started asking for ZIP codes, and I can't get my IDC card to work at the pump. I tried billing zip code, as well as 00000 or 99999 - no go. I always have to go in and leave the card with the clerk before filing up the car.
#9
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does anyone know if the bill pay option with the fort lauderdale address still works for paying an amex idc from a us bank account? thanks.
Last edited by alemdohorizonte; Mar 30, 2010 at 3:01 am
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It works for me. When I did the initial setup I provided the New York (wire transfer) address, but I do not think my bank used it because they pay Amex electronically and the physical location is irrelevant. I have ignored the notices about the IDC remittance details changing and my account is still credited promptly.
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My bank claimed the money has been received by Amex and that they provided Amex with proof of payment, while Amex still required a SWIFT letter to locate the payment.
I disputed my bank's statement - asking them to redeposit the funds into my account as the payment never posted, and this prompted them to involve their "research" team.
In any case, I will stick to wire transfers or checks in the future.
#13
Join Date: Jun 2004
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I would love to use ACH payment from my US bank to IDC. This isn't shown among the options when I log into my IDC account and click on the payment options link.
Thanks,
Susan
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The IDC ACH payments from a U.S. bank account now work perfectly for me. The automatic debit comes through about 15 days after the statement billing date.