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American Express expanded the Centurion Lounge guest benefit spend requirement?

American Express expanded the Centurion Lounge guest benefit spend requirement?

Old Feb 8, 23, 2:23 pm
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American Express expanded the Centurion Lounge guest benefit spend requirement?

Just got an email (2/8, 1450ET) that I'm eligible to bring two guests through 1/31/24. I did NOT hit the $75k threshold (though I did on a different Amex card since cancelled) and the email specifically states I need to use my current Amex. Nowhere to sign up, so doesn't look like a scam.

So, are they back-peddling already? Or did they cross-reference my earlier eligibility and extend it to my current card?

Anyone else get this email?
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Old Feb 8, 23, 2:27 pm
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Originally Posted by jamienbaker
....did NOT hit the $75k threshold (though I did on a different Amex card since cancelled) ....
Are both the cancelled card, and the current card, Platinum (personal or Business)?
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Old Feb 8, 23, 2:31 pm
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Are both the cancelled card, and the current card, Platinum (personal or Business)?
I hit the threshold on BizPlat last year, but then cancelled the card (having forgotten about the upcoming change).

Guesting privileges were restored to my PersonalPlat which I still have. I also have some non-Plat cards (Bonvoy, Hilton, etc) and was wondering if perhaps they're rolling up total Amex-branded spend.

I'm interested by the change. It also said that authorized users on my account have had their guesting restored.

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Old Feb 8, 23, 2:47 pm
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Others are reporting the same email:

https://www.doctorofcredit.com/ameri...e-cardholders/
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Old Feb 8, 23, 4:08 pm
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Originally Posted by jamienbaker
Just got an email (2/8, 1450ET) that I'm eligible to bring two guests through 1/31/24. I did NOT hit the $75k threshold (though I did on a different Amex card since cancelled) and the email specifically states I need to use my current Amex. Nowhere to sign up, so doesn't look like a scam.

So, are they back-peddling already? Or did they cross-reference my earlier eligibility and extend it to my current card?

Anyone else get this email?
I have heard various people report it. So far I have only heard it from people who did not spend $75K on their personal Amex Platinum, but have spent $75K across multiple Amex cards (including business cards). I have not yet heard this from anyone who has spent less than $75K on all Amex cards combined. It is anecdotal for now, but that seems to be the pattern so far.

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Old Feb 8, 23, 5:42 pm
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Originally Posted by jamienbaker
Just got an email (2/8, 1450ET) that I'm eligible to bring two guests through 1/31/24. I did NOT hit the $75k threshold (though I did on a different Amex card since cancelled) and the email specifically states I need to use my current Amex. Nowhere to sign up, so doesn't look like a scam.

So, are they back-peddling already? Or did they cross-reference my earlier eligibility and extend it to my current card?

Anyone else get this email?
I guess today is my lucky day because about one hour ago (2/8, 17:38ET) I also received the email. I did not hit the $75K threshold on any of my cards, but if I combine the spend from all my cards, I did exceed the threshold. Interestingly, it was applied to my biz card, which had the least amount of spend of my three cards (all are platinum).
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Old Feb 8, 23, 7:45 pm
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Originally Posted by ziggy29
did not spend $75K on their personal Amex Platinum, but have spent $75K across multiple Amex cards (including business cards). I have not yet heard this from anyone who has spent less than $75K on all Amex cards combined. It is anecdotal for now, but that seems to be the pattern so far.
One more datapoint for receiving the aforementioned email(s). I received multiple emails, one for each of my existing biz plat accounts. Spend on each of those accounts approximately $16K (to meet minimum spend) $80K total all Biz plats, plus approximately $30 total across several biz golds, plus approximately $15K on a blu biz plus, and approximately $5K on a (personal) Hilton Aspire (my only AmEx personal card).
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Old Feb 8, 23, 8:08 pm
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It's interesting that one week after the new policy went into effect, many people seem to be getting these "we know you didn't spend $75k on your plat card like we wanted you to, but it looks like you're a good customer overall so you can still bring guests into the lounge for free" emails.

I'm purely guessing, but it would seem that either a) the CL's have seen MUCH less traffic in the past week and AmEx is worried or, b) there have been lots of angry cardholders turned away / asked to pay $50 per guest, and the backlash is worse than AmEx anticipated.
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Old Feb 8, 23, 8:15 pm
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Originally Posted by DJ_Iceman
I'm purely guessing, but it would seem that either a) the CL's have seen MUCH less traffic in the past week and AmEx is worried or, b) there have been lots of angry cardholders turned away / asked to pay $50 per guest, and the backlash is worse than AmEx anticipated.
-OR- c) maybe people have made the argument that they spent $75,000 in 2022, and did not know that only spending on the Platinum Card would qualify. It will be interesting to see if the published rules are changed for 2023, or if this is a one-time transitional adjustment.

(FWIW, it appears that I spent $75,800 across four cards, and I have not received an email for my Business Platinum account.)
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Old Feb 8, 23, 8:29 pm
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Originally Posted by mia
-OR- c) maybe people have made the argument that they spent $75,000 in 2022, and did not know that only spending on the Platinum Card would qualify. It will be interesting to see if the published rules are changed for 2023, or if this is a one-time transitional adjustment.

(FWIW, it appears that I spent $75,800 across four cards, and I have not received an email for my Business Platinum account.)
At the beginning of the year I spoke to Amex regarding my plat biz card - I was seriously thinking of canceling it and when the rep asked me why, I replied "well, under the new rules, Amex is almost forcing me to close my cards and only have one since the 75K spend threshold is for one card and not a total of spend across all qualifying cards". The rep was a little stunned when I said that and tried to assure me this was not the case and I replied, if that was the case, why doesn't Amex take all of my spend into consideration? Not sure if that made any difference at all or whether accounts were marked when people complained.
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Old Feb 8, 23, 9:43 pm
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Originally Posted by DJ_Iceman
It's interesting that one week after the new policy went into effect, many people seem to be getting these "we know you didn't spend $75k on your plat card like we wanted you to, but it looks like you're a good customer overall so you can still bring guests into the lounge for free" emails.

I'm purely guessing, but it would seem that either a) the CL's have seen MUCH less traffic in the past week and AmEx is worried or, b) there have been lots of angry cardholders turned away / asked to pay $50 per guest, and the backlash is worse than AmEx anticipated.
Is that what they are saying? Not sure. I'd have to go back to their language, but if they simply said you have to spend $75K on the Platinum Card, that would still be true if you spent (say) $50K on one and $30K on another. Did they ever say $75K spend on a single Platinum card?

Maybe they did; I don't recall. But it really seems like the dividing line is $75K on all Platinum cards connected to your account.

Originally Posted by mia
(FWIW, it appears that I spent $75,800 across four cards, and I have not received an email for my Business Platinum account.)
Four Platinum cards, or four Amex cards in general? This data point might help to show whether it's $75K on ALL Amex cards or $75K on all Platinum cards. (Not that it matters to me; that's well beyond my pay grade.)

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Old Feb 8, 23, 10:14 pm
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Originally Posted by mia
…(FWIW, it appears that I spent $75,800 across four cards, and I have not received an email for my Business Platinum account.)
Often times I calculate my total credit card spend based on my monthly credit card payments, which include annual fees. Any chance your total (which is agonizingly close to the threshold ) includes annual fees, which might then put the total spend at less than the threshold?
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Old Feb 8, 23, 11:45 pm
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Originally Posted by DJ_Iceman
I'm purely guessing, but it would seem that either a) the CL's have seen MUCH less traffic in the past week and AmEx is worried or, b) there have been lots of angry cardholders turned away / asked to pay $50 per guest, and the backlash is worse than AmEx anticipated.
I vote for (b).

Backtracking on the stated qualification rules is same as airlines rolling over status yet another year for those who didn't qualify. Amex's game, Amex's rules, but I don't have to like it.
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Old Feb 9, 23, 7:12 am
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I have both a personal and business Plat card. Made the $75K spend on the personal, not the biz (not even close). Got the email last night with biz number at the top stating was eligible for complimentary guests. So much for any CHANCE at less crowding, if this went out to every plat card holder
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Old Feb 9, 23, 7:15 am
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Originally Posted by ziggy29
Four Platinum cards, or four Amex cards in general? ....
Four cards, only one is Platinum. It would make sense if the emails were sent only to those who spent $75,000 across multiple Platinum cards.

Originally Posted by Dr Jabadski
....Any chance your total (which is agonizingly close to the threshold ) includes annual fees, ....
Perhaps. I looked up the spend for each on americanexpress.com > Statements & Activity > View by Year > 2022 > New charges.

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