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Old Feb 10, 22, 9:19 am
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Q. Where can I find a list of the airline and hotel transfer partners?

Partner airline and hotel programs, transfer ratios, and rules vary by the country where your American Express card is issued:

Australia: Airlines & Hotels

Canada: Airlines & Hotels

Germany: Airlines & Hotels

International Dollar & Euro Cards (UK Issued): Airlines & Hotels

New Zealand: Airlines & Hotels

UK: Airlines, Hotels and Rail

USA: Airlines & Hotels Transfer ratios explained below.


Q. What are the transfer ratios to USA airline and hotel partners?

For most frequent customer programs, 1,000 Membership Rewards points will equal 1,000 miles, points or credits and must be transferred in 1,000-point increments unless otherwise noted.

In the USA version of Membership Rewards the exceptions are:
El AL Israel Airlines: 1,000 points = 20 Matmid points
Hilton: 1,000 points = 2,000 Honors points
JetBlue Airways: 250 points = 200 JetBlue TrueBlue points


Q: After I transfer, when will my miles expire at that airline/hotel program? Is there anything I can do to avoid expiration there?

The Miles/Points that Do and Don't Expire wiki lists all of the Amex USA airline/hotel transfer partners and their respective expiration policies.


Q. How long does it typically take to compete a transfer?

MR USA airline and hotel partner transfer times.


Q. How can I use Membership Rewards points to travel on American Airlines, United Airlines, Alaska Airlines or other carriers which are not transfer partners?

Membership Rewards (USA) points can be transferred to three or more frequent flyer programs in each of the international alliances. Any program can arrange award travel on flights operated by all members of the same alliance. Points cannot be transferred from one frequent flyer program to another, instead you redeem for a partner award. The number of miles required is determined by the program through which you redeem, not by the airline operating the flights. Programs in the same alliance will require different amounts of miles, and different co-payments, for the same flights. Do not transfer until you understand the full cost of the flights you need. Do not transfer until you have confirmed availability for your specific dates and route.

To travel on American Airlines, Alaska Airlines, or any other OneWorld carrier redeem through:
  • Asia Miles (Cathay Pacific)
  • British Airways
  • Iberia Airlines
  • Qantas Airways



American also has partnership outside OneWorld with:
  • Etihad


Alaska also has partnership outside OneWorld with:






To travel on Delta Air Lines or any other SkyTeam carrier redeem through:
  • Delta Air Lines (DL permits one-way awards as of 01 JAN 2015, however trips originating in Europe carry additional surcharges; Delta also imposes surcharges on trips using some partner airlines such as China Eastern or China Southern, but notably not on trips involving its European partners (as long as the trip originates outside Europe) or Virgin Australia.)
  • AeroMexico
  • Alitalia
  • FlyingBlue (Air France, KLM, Air Europa, Kenya Airways, Aircalin and Tarom.)



To travel on United Airlines or any other Star Alliance carrier redeem through:
  • Aeroplan (Air Canada) No fuel surcharge on flights operated by UA and many other airlines. Read current list HERE. See also transatlantic strategy discussion HERE. Read about changes to redemption charts in December 2015 HERE.
  • All Nippon Airways. Read about ANA fuel surcharges HERE. Read about changes to partner redemption charts in April 2015 HERE.
  • Avianca Airlines
  • Singapore Airlines. Read HERE
    Read about Singapore Airlines' reciprocal mile conversion arrangement with Virgin Australia HERE.




Q. Rather than transferring now, can I preserve my Membership Rewards USA points balance without paying any annual fee?

Apply for an American Express Everyday card, and link it to the same Membership Rewards account. You may then close the other cards.















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Transfer Membership Rewards points to which airline or hotel program?

Old Jan 16, 22, 8:48 pm
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Transfer Membership Rewards points to which airline or hotel program?

anyone knows if AMEX currently charge the exercise tax for MR points transfer to ANA? My last Delta transfer was charged but I read that it is only for domestic airlines? thanks
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Old Jan 17, 22, 8:17 am
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Originally Posted by epicurus View Post
....it is only for domestic airlines?
This has always been true. It never applies to foreign carriers.
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Old Feb 9, 22, 11:41 am
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Anyone having issues today transferring MR to CX Asia Miles? I keep getting "We apologize for the inconvenience. The system is currently unavailable. If you require assistance please call Membership Rewards Customer Service at 1-800-AXP-EARN."

Other transfer programs seem to be working okay. Spent an hour on the phone with Amex support troubleshooting just about everything we can think of and eventually they just filed a ticket for their backend team. We ensured my name, phone, and address all matched my CX profile and they even humored me by attempting the transfer with all sorts of variants of my first and last name, transposed and with/without middle name/initial. Nothing seems to work. Just curious if this is isolated to my CX account or an AMEX system-wide issue. Saw reports of something similar happening last year for Emirates transfers with a similar error message.
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Old Feb 15, 22, 5:53 pm
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Closing Platinum card, where should I deposit the points?

My Platinum card is up for renewal in June and I won’t keep it. I don’t want more than one high end card and I think the CSR is better for smaller fee. I have 160k MR points and I’m wondering where to transfer them to. I could put them in my Skymiles account if I can’t think of a better use.

Was looking for a ANA deal using Virgin Atlantic but sounds impossible to accomplish. I know I want to get a biz ticket to Japan, should I open a ANA account and deposit the points there? Any other options where I’d get more value than my Delta account?
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Old Feb 15, 22, 5:55 pm
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What are your flight redemption goals? What route(s)? What class of service?
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Old Feb 15, 22, 5:58 pm
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What are your flight redemption goals? What route(s)? What class of service?
Id like to get from US to Asia in first class, ideally in spring 2023. I want to hike to Everest base camp, Kathmandu would be amazing if ANA goes there.
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Old Feb 15, 22, 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by bmwclubracer View Post
Id like to get from US to Asia in first class, ideally in spring 2023. I want to hike to Everest base camp, Kathmandu would be amazing if ANA goes there.
You can find a list of airlines serving KTM here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trib...tional_Airport

(I can't say whether any of the air service to KTM is suspended due to the pandemic.)
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Old Feb 16, 22, 8:06 am
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Originally Posted by bmwclubracer View Post
My Platinum card is up for renewal in June and I wont keep it. I dont want more than one high end card and I think the CSR is better for smaller fee. I have 160k MR points and Im wondering where to transfer them to. I could put them in my Skymiles account if I cant think of a better use.

Was looking for a ANA deal using Virgin Atlantic but sounds impossible to accomplish. I know I want to get a biz ticket to Japan, should I open a ANA account and deposit the points there? Any other options where Id get more value than my Delta account?
If you'd like to have more time to decide where to transfer them you can downgrade to a Green card that has a much lower annual fee or open an Amex Everyday card. Both of these will retain your MR points balance.
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Old Feb 17, 22, 8:11 pm
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Great advice!
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Old Feb 21, 22, 8:34 am
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Booking Rewards on US Domestic

Im having trouble finding domestic availability on partner programs of either American or United, to use Amex MR. I can find availability directly using Amex Travel, but at premium point cost. I checked Avianca and a few other partner sites but they are showing very little availability. Travel is from ORD to MIA. Any suggestions on how to use MR for domestic travel on these airlines for this route?
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Old Feb 21, 22, 9:12 am
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The operating airline (AA or UA) must make award seats available to partner programs. Typically, they only make the lowest "saver" tier available to partners, and typically they make the same seats available to all partners. If you look at aa.com and united.com and do not see low mileage award seats available, you will not find them on any partner. This is more difficult to judge than it used to be, because airlines have replaced fixed tiers with dynamic award pricing. I would not expect much availability if flying to Florida in the winter.

When you look at Amex Travel you are not seeing award seats, you are purchasing a ticket with money, and then using points to offset the charge.
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Old Feb 21, 22, 10:28 am
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Originally Posted by nialltom View Post
Im having trouble finding domestic availability on partner programs of either American or United, to use Amex MR. I can find availability directly using Amex Travel, but at premium point cost. I checked Avianca and a few other partner sites but they are showing very little availability. Travel is from ORD to MIA. Any suggestions on how to use MR for domestic travel on these airlines for this route?
What date(s) of travel are you considering? AA's MileSAAver redemption rate on that route in Economy is 12,500 AAdvantage miles. Economy "Web Special" redemptions might be available for more or less than the "MileSAAver" rate. As a general rule, if aa.com is offering award seats at or below the MileSAAver redemption rate, those seats should be available for redemption by partner programs. For that route, BA would charge 11,000 Avios + $5.60 per person, one way.

But I would also check cash fares on that route, including on Southwest, bookable only at southwest.com. Southwest flies out of both ORD and MDW.
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Old Feb 26, 22, 1:48 am
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Originally Posted by nialltom View Post
I’m having trouble finding domestic availability on partner programs of either American or United, to use Amex MR. I can find availability directly using Amex Travel, but at premium point cost. I checked Avianca and a few other partner sites but they are showing very little availability. Travel is from ORD to MIA. Any suggestions on how to use MR for domestic travel on these airlines for this route?
You cannot transfer MR to AA as AAdvantage miles. You can only use points as a cash substitute. (But see post below for an important exception; point well taken.) Flight availability and pricing on Amex is hit-or-miss. If a flight on RoadRunner Air is available for $100 on other sites like Expedia Travelocity or RoadRunnerAir's on site, you may find it on Amex for less than $100, or more than $100, or you might not find it at all.

As noted in another thread, I recently booked a $1170 ticket on AA for $729 on Amex, but they wanted $201 for another ticket that was $174 directly from AA.

Sometimes you get a discount on points; i.e. a $100 ticket might be available for 9000 points rather than the notional 1 cent per point. Note that many Amex cards give a rebate on points so that if you spend 10,000 points you might get back 2500, 3500, or 5000 depending what kind of card you have.

AA has cards that earn points directly, but there are no transfer parnters like you can transfer Amex MR to a dozen or so airlines, and the same with Chase UR points.

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Old Feb 26, 22, 7:32 am
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Originally Posted by redtop43 View Post
You cannot transfer MR to AA as AAdvantage miles. You can only use points as a cash substitute.
This is not entirely accurate. We can transfer to five other programs and redeem for award flights operated by AA, when AA makes seats available to partners. See the Wikipost for details.
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Old Feb 26, 22, 7:25 pm
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Originally Posted by redtop43 View Post
AA has cards that earn points directly, but there are no transfer parnters like you can transfer Amex MR to a dozen or so airlines, and the same with Chase UR points.
At the moment, you can transfer Marriott Bonvoy to AA so the above is inaccurate.
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