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Old Jan 1, 2022, 10:29 am
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Please read: This is a community-maintained wiki post containing the most important information from this thread. You may edit the Wiki once you have been on FT for 90 days and have made 90 posts.

Reminder: you must enroll and select your airline BEFORE making a reimbursable purchase. http://www.americanexpress.com/airlinechoice -or- "Call the number on the back of your Card to select a qualifying airline."

Credit posting delays range from several business days (typical) to several weeks (seen in Oct 2015). The T&Cs state that it could take up to four weeks, so wait at least that long before worrying, and certainly don't contact Amex prematurely

Caution: effective from 22 June 2019, gift card purchases from Delta do not get reimbursed.

Previous versions of this thread:
2020-2021: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...2020-21-a.html
2015-2019: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...15-2019-a.html

Read this primer first
  • In the Amex Membership Rewards family, both the Consumer and Business versions of the Platinum and Centurion cards qualify for a $200 airline credit. (Gold card $100 credit is gone as of 2022). Hilton Aspire AMEX is eligible for a $250 airline credit.
  • You must click here to select Delta as your enrolled airline before you make a reimbursable purchase, else the benefit won't apply. The feature is activated immediately upon airline designation.
  • If you've selected DL in the past and don't wish to change airlines, there's no need to select again; current selection rolls into future years until modified.
  • The T&Cs state the eligible charges, but YMMV, so don't call and ask especially about the fuzzier cases below because that will probably hasten closing of any loopholes.
  • The credit is per account, not per card. If the main account has authorized users with additional cards, eligible charges may still be made on those cards, but they'll count jointly towards the same account limit.
  • Credits are capped per calendar year, meaning you could tap the full amount on Dec 31st and again on Jan 1st in the extreme. Transaction date, not posting date, determines the year. Note: This is not my experience. I purchased Dec 31, 2016, posted Jan 1, 2017 and went against my 2017 credit. (TheMadBrewer)
  • You will get a partial credit to bring your total annual reimbursements to the limit exactly if a qualifying charge takes you past the limit.
  • After four weeks, if you've read this Wiki carefully and posted here seeking assistance but the credit still has not arrived, consider chatting with Amex online. Politely mention the "Delta extras" you thought would be reimbursed within four weeks and they'll handle it.

Additional Collections/Split Tender -- THIS IS A LOOPHOLE. BE DISCREET

TL;DR: Anything coded as an additional collection (a.k.a. add/collect or a/c), including difference in fare when changing flights, and accepting an FCM offer, also triggers the credit and will be reimbursed, provided that the amount charged to your card is $250 or less (regardless of card type, e.g. there have been reports of full $100 credit for Gold card on a/c over $100 and full $200 credit for Plat on a/c over $200, but always $250 or less -- exactly $250 is known to work)
How to do it: With waived fee for cancellation/changes on non-refundable tickets (due to COVID-19) you get an eCredit when cancelling it, so you can:
  1. Buy a non-refundable ticket with any combination of gift card/eCredit plus your AMEX, again provided that the residual amount charged to your card is $250 or less
  2. After credit has posted, and at least 48 hours after buying it, cancel it (ensure there's no fee for cancelling it) so you get an updated eCredit for the full ticket amount.
    • alternatively, if you buy a ticket far enough in the future, there is no particular need to cancel the ticket, just change it once you have some new dates or itinerary in mind (you can change origin, destination or both)
    • however, note that the waiver of change fees on Basic Economy tickets is ending: https://www.delta.com/us/en/travel-p...sbeforeapril30
    • thus you should use main cabin tickets for this purpose (assuming DL does not extend the BE policy due to omicron etc.)
  3. You can even use the result of (2) as an eCredit to repeat step 1 with a different AMEX card if you have multiples. Note that in this context, changing an unflown future ticket is exactly equivalent to an eCredit in the amount of the ticket's value.
To re-iterate, you do not necessarily have to start with a gift card. As noted in step 1, an existing eCredit will work just as well; and changing an existing ticket is equivalent to using an eCredit. If you do not have an existing eCredit, you can easily create one by simply buying a cheap ticket (important: basic economy flexibility has ended as of Dec 2021, so you must buy main cabin for this to work). There are often $40-$50 one-ways available in shorthaul markets; see post 212 for a way to search for these by calendar on the new ITA Matrix interface (see post 108 for the old "classic" Matrix UI)

Gift cards purchased directly from Delta online are often not activated until 24-72 hours later as an anti-fraud measure. Physical gift cards purchased in retail stores (grocery, office, etc.) may activate sooner. Buying a cheap eCredit avoids these issues.

More details:
  • Relevantly, split tender where you partially pay with a gift card, existing credit, VDB voucher etc. and partly charged to your card, are processed by DL as an add/collect and trigger the credit per above.
  • Thus if you anticipate actually buying, say, a $200 DL ticket, you could buy a single $50 gift card, then buy the ticket using $50 GC and $150 on your card (the $150 will be reimbursed). This is just an example; as per the previous bullet there is no reason it needs to be specifically $50, or even a gift card. An existing eCredit, or modifying an unflown ticket, will work just as well. The "additional collection" is what leads to the credit, the reason why it is "additional" is unimportant.
    • In general, only additional collections less than ~$250 are automatically reimbursed. If you use a $50 gift card to buy a $500 ticket, a $450 additional collection will be generated but it will not be auto-reimbursed by Amex.
    • If you already have gift cards or ecredits in particular denominations that don't line up well with the price of the ticket you want to buy (additional collection will end up being too much to get auto-reimbursed or too little to efficiently use up the fee credit), consider whether you may be able to reach a better outcome by splitting up the purchase -- buying a round trip as two one ways or buying multiple passengers separately. But, note that buying 2 one-ways instead of a round trip can sometimes cost more, making it not worthwhile, and note the caveats about multiple passenger purchases below, as well as considering the risk that buying 2 passengers separately can have negative implications for Medallion upgrades (if applicable) as well as creating the risk that you are separated from your travel companions if there is a flight cancellation.
  • The "additional collection" transaction notation shows up after the transaction posts, on the website only (both desktop and mobile) if you click into a transaction to view the details (it does not appear in the app, or while the purchase is pending)
  • Note that special care is needed when booking tickets for 2 or more people in a single transaction.
    • When booking multiple people in a single transaction on Delta.com, each person's ticket charges to the credit card in a separate transaction, and gift cards are used starting with the first ticket until they are exhausted. So for example if you were booking 2x $210 tickets, for a total transaction of $420, if you used a $200 gift card the charges would post to Amex as a $10 additional collection on the first person and a $210 regular ticket charge for the second person, resulting in only a $10 reimbursement. For the same two tickets if you used a $230 gift card, the first person would be covered entirely by the gift card and the second person's ticket would charge as a $190 additional collection, resulting in a $190 reimbursement.
    • If for example you wanted to buy 2 $125 tickets ($250 total) using 2 $50 gift cards, if you bought both in a single transaction both gift cards would apply to the first ticket -- in order to get 2 $75 additional collection charges you would have to buy the 2 tickets in separate transactions using one gift card on each. Note that there may be other downsides to buying the tickets in separate transactions, including that you could be separated if there are schedule changes or day-of flight cancellations (Delta should be able to put you back together after the former, but may not be able to do after the latter), and there could be implications for how various benefits are treated, such as losing the ability to share a credit card holder bag fee wavier with companions or in some cases resulting in different rules around Medallion companion upgrades.
    • This would work differently if ecredits are used instead of gift cards since ecredits are not transferrable -- ecredits can only be applied to a ticket for a person whose name is on the ecredit; if other people are booked in the same transaction, any leftover ecredit balance will *not* be applied to those other people (and will remain as an ecredit in the account of the named person, available for future use).
    • Using Pay With Miles for multiple people works differently as well -- see this post for details.
  • Canceling a ticket within the 24-hour[1] risk-free period generally results in funds being returned to where they came from (GC back to GC and CC back to CC) even if the ticket is non-refundable; also, Delta interprets the 24-hour risk free cancellation period generously -- you actually have until midnight of the day following the day of booking (in which time zone is oft-speculated but unclear). Thus, this can work out to nearly 48 hours if the timing is exactly right. Hence the suggestion above to cancel only after 48 hours, or avoid canceling altogether.
  • There is no particular reason to be in a rush to cancel the ticket. You can avoid the headache of guessing whether the risk-free period has passed by simply booking a ticket that is weeks or months in the future (just remember to cancel it, or change it to a ticket you actually intend to fly, before the flight time on the original ticket). Alternatively you can contact Delta and explicitly request an eCredit (they will be happy to hold on to your money even if you were theoretically eligible for a full refund)
  • FCM offers may require accepting for the entire trip (vs just one segment) or calling in to up-fare the whole trip (please post data points either way)

Paying for a ticket partially with SkyMiles

NOTE that DL has two different programs for partially paying with SkyMiles, that seem superficially similar, but are quite different
  • Pay With Miles is a feature available to DL-branded AMEX cardholders that lets you pay for part of your ticket using SkyMiles in increments of 5,000 miles = $50. If you use PWM then the remaining amount charged to your card posts as additional collection and will qualify for the fee credit (multiple data points)
  • Miles + Cash is like buying an award ticket but using cash to substitute for some of the miles. As an example, you might be offered a ticket for 40,000 miles + $5.60, or 30,000 miles + $205.60 (these numbers are made up). If you choose the latter option what you are really doing is buying 10,000 miles for $200, then using those 10,000 miles plus 30,000 that you already had to buy the 40,000 ticket + $5.60 in taxes. This will post as two separate transactions, $200 for the miles purchase, and $5.60 for the taxes on the award ticket. The $5.60 will be reimbursed (just like any other award ticket). The $200 seems like it does not get automatically reimbursed, although it may post as "Frequent Flyer Fee/Purchase" in which case you have a pretty good case for getting it credited manually by contacting AMEX.
  • Note: Miles + Cash is usually a terrible value (even for SkyMiles)
  • See the list of FAQs at the bottom of the "Pay With Miles" page for more info (search in particular for "What is the difference between Pay with Miles and Miles + Cash?")


other non Gift Card options
  • baggage and other service fees (same day change/standby, change fees, etc.)
  • taxes on award flights (including the $5.60 September 11 security fee)
  • in-flight purchases such as food and drinks
  • Wifi passes to the new Viasat system may reimburse; wifi purchases on the old Gogo system do not. More information about which provider is available on which plane can be found here; Viasat flights offer a $5 per flight pass while Gogo usually charges more than that and is purchased from a website with Gogo in the URL.
  • SkyClub access/guest fees (but NOT gift cards purchased at a SC, which are actually activated at a 3rd party web site)
  • mileage boosts (post 2499) trip extras have been discontinued
  • The $59 for Delta Skymiles Select is reimbursed (posts 2180, 2182) SkyMiles Select is no longer available for purchase

these may not credit automatically, but people have had success getting them processed manually after the fact
  • seat purchase fees (if you buy an upgrade and it does not credit automatically and you call in, do not call it an upgrade, call it a seat purchase/assignment fee)
  • premium beverages purchased in the Sky Club (post 462)

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Old Jan 1, 2022, 4:58 pm
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Originally Posted by ameskay
First of all, oddly DL was already selected in my AMEX benefits site, and it did not give me an option to select another airline. I thought we get to change the airline in the first month?
I think that part of the site is messed up.

https://global.americanexpress.com/c...ine-fee-credit

Card Member must select one qualifying airline through their American Express Online Account or the link for their Card below:

•American Express Platinum Card®:https://global.americanexpress.com/c...redit/platinum.
•Goldman Sachs Platinum Card®https://global.americanexpress.com/c...-platinum-card
•Morgan Stanley Platinum Card®https://global.americanexpress.com/c...-platinum-card
•American Express Platinum Card® for Schwab:https://global.americanexpress.com/c...-platinum-card
•American Express Corporate Platinum Card®:https://global.americanexpress.com/c...orate-platinum
However, although clicking on the link that applies to me does bring up a page with a "Select Airline" button, clicking on that button accomplishes nothing

(actually, it's the same link, and the "Select Airline" randomly appears or doesn't)

so anyway if anyone wants to change their airline they can see if any of the above links work better for them, else call in or chat.
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Old Jan 1, 2022, 7:21 pm
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Originally Posted by ffI
Thanks
  • taxes on award flights (including the $5.60 September 11 security fee)
So if I am a DL Skymiles Platinum Medallion - set airline to Amex - Book tickets from UK - with high award fees - on Amex - get credit - Wait a month - cancel ? - As simple as that?
or
set airline to Amex for all cards in Jan - use a 50$ gift card - book 250$ ticket - refund in 3 days - then cancel in 1 month or so - restart again with next ticket on next card - repeat and rinse?
But this time I get only flight credits on DL for each ticket and not cash back
I may be not understanding your post. Is this specific to DL Sky. PM? In general, I thought you dont want a refund on something you u got an AMEX credit for because that can lead to a clawback
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Old Jan 1, 2022, 7:25 pm
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Will AMEX clawback airline credit if AF posts in January and card is closed within 30 days of AF?

Also, if I do not have definitive dates, any advantage to booking flight dates further out? You can cancel flight more than once, right?

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Old Jan 2, 2022, 6:35 am
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I can neither change my airline, nor access a credit meter.
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Old Jan 2, 2022, 6:49 am
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Originally Posted by Points Scrounger
I can neither change my airline, nor access a credit meter.
I can see the meter, but not yet change the airline. If you need to change now try using the Chat function, but allow some days before making a purchase to be sure the update has time to populate all of the requisite databases.
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Old Jan 2, 2022, 9:59 am
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On-board purchasing is back. Idk if it is triggering Amex credit.
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Old Jan 2, 2022, 10:11 am
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I can see the meter, but not yet change the airline. If you need to change now try using the Chat function, but allow some days before making a purchase to be sure the update has time to populate all of the requisite databases.
Thanks! I don't want to change airlines, but am concerned that if I purchase now my account somehow still thinks it's 2021 (sounds dumb I know, but...)
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Old Jan 2, 2022, 11:01 am
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I'm in the same boat (not changing airlines, and didn't get an option to change), but my purchase from yesterday should clear tomorrow. I will let everyone know if it credits correctly.
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Old Jan 2, 2022, 2:52 pm
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12/28/21: Selected DL as airline for reimbursement
12/28/21: Bought $50 DL eGift card using the Delta mobile app (24 hour wait before use)
12/29/21: Booked a flight in the Comfort+ cabin for $50 GC + $193.50.
12/31/21: Received $193.50 credit on Amex Plat
01/02/22: Canceled flight and received total amount ($50 + 193.50) as an eCredit that expires 12/31/2022
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Old Jan 2, 2022, 5:42 pm
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Originally Posted by jmsnyc
I may be not understanding your post. Is this specific to DL Sky. PM? In general, I thought you dont want a refund on something you u got an AMEX credit for because that can lead to a clawback
I book tickets for airlines using an Amex Plat - there are 10 airline charges a month - I put all fees including award travel on the card - it is my default for all airlines due to the 5X
Let us say I book a DL award for travel in Nov 2022 - In October I cancel the trip. How the heck can Amex know or care - Although never put anything beyond Amex RAT team
On one hand they take away my daughters 60k miles; then they turn around and give me - a bigger abuser - 20k for each add user for 2k spend = 110 k without a credit pull....

The problem is with
200x 3 Amex Plat (got 2 offers to expand my "business" for 150k miles each last year)
100x 1 BofA premium rewards
250x 1 Chase Sapphire
300x1 Ritz Carlton
- TB was the easiest way to liquidate the credits and convert to cash like funds that last 5 yrs
Of course now the plan is to downsize the Reserve; cash out the Amex to Schwab, close 2 Bz cards and keep the Ritz for the PP and the Amex plat+/- for now

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Old Jan 2, 2022, 6:12 pm
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Originally Posted by mandeep
12/28/21: Selected DL as airline for reimbursement
12/28/21: Bought $50 DL eGift card using the Delta mobile app (24 hour wait before use)
12/29/21: Booked a flight in the Comfort+ cabin for $50 GC + $193.50.
12/31/21: Received $193.50 credit on Amex Plat
01/02/22: Canceled flight and received total amount ($50 + 193.50) as an eCredit that expires 12/31/2022
You selected the airline 3 days before the end of the year, what happened, did you panic? You could have waited a couple more days....
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Old Jan 2, 2022, 6:12 pm
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Will the credit be applied if I have a current flight and I change it to a different, more expensive flight? I have both Amex Plat and Hilton Aspire credits to use.

The current flight is one I created just to get the credits used up last year. I haven't cancelled it yet to get the ecredits. I went to do so and wondered if I just rebook a different flight for a more expensive one and later cancel that, will the credits apply?
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Old Jan 2, 2022, 6:14 pm
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Originally Posted by mera
Will the credit be applied if I have a current flight and I change it to a different, more expensive flight?
Yes.
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Old Jan 2, 2022, 6:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Zorak
Yes.
Thanks so much!!!
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Old Jan 2, 2022, 6:52 pm
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Originally Posted by nk15
You selected the airline 3 days before the end of the year, what happened, did you panic? You could have waited a couple more days....
Ha! I applied for the card in November and had totally forgotten to make use of the annual credit.
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