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Old Jan 1, 2022, 10:29 am
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Please read: This is a community-maintained wiki post containing the most important information from this thread. You may edit the Wiki once you have been on FT for 90 days and have made 90 posts.

Reminder: you must enroll and select your airline BEFORE making a reimbursable purchase. http://www.americanexpress.com/airlinechoice -or- "Call the number on the back of your Card to select a qualifying airline."

Credit posting delays range from several business days (typical) to several weeks (seen in Oct 2015). The T&Cs state that it could take up to four weeks, so wait at least that long before worrying, and certainly don't contact Amex prematurely

Caution: effective from 22 June 2019, gift card purchases from Delta do not get reimbursed.

Previous versions of this thread:
2020-2021: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...2020-21-a.html
2015-2019: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...15-2019-a.html

Read this primer first
  • In the Amex Membership Rewards family, both the Consumer and Business versions of the Platinum and Centurion cards qualify for a $200 airline credit. (Gold card $100 credit is gone as of 2022). Hilton Aspire AMEX is eligible for a $250 airline credit.
  • You must click here to select Delta as your enrolled airline before you make a reimbursable purchase, else the benefit won't apply. The feature is activated immediately upon airline designation.
  • If you've selected DL in the past and don't wish to change airlines, there's no need to select again; current selection rolls into future years until modified.
  • The T&Cs state the eligible charges, but YMMV, so don't call and ask especially about the fuzzier cases below because that will probably hasten closing of any loopholes.
  • The credit is per account, not per card. If the main account has authorized users with additional cards, eligible charges may still be made on those cards, but they'll count jointly towards the same account limit.
  • Credits are capped per calendar year, meaning you could tap the full amount on Dec 31st and again on Jan 1st in the extreme. Transaction date, not posting date, determines the year. Note: This is not my experience. I purchased Dec 31, 2016, posted Jan 1, 2017 and went against my 2017 credit. (TheMadBrewer)
  • You will get a partial credit to bring your total annual reimbursements to the limit exactly if a qualifying charge takes you past the limit.
  • After four weeks, if you've read this Wiki carefully and posted here seeking assistance but the credit still has not arrived, consider chatting with Amex online. Politely mention the "Delta extras" you thought would be reimbursed within four weeks and they'll handle it.

Additional Collections/Split Tender -- THIS IS A LOOPHOLE. BE DISCREET

TL;DR: Anything coded as an additional collection (a.k.a. add/collect or a/c), including difference in fare when changing flights, and accepting an FCM offer, also triggers the credit and will be reimbursed, provided that the amount charged to your card is $250 or less (regardless of card type, e.g. there have been reports of full $100 credit for Gold card on a/c over $100 and full $200 credit for Plat on a/c over $200, but always $250 or less -- exactly $250 is known to work)
How to do it: With waived fee for cancellation/changes on non-refundable tickets (due to COVID-19) you get an eCredit when cancelling it, so you can:
  1. Buy a non-refundable ticket with any combination of gift card/eCredit plus your AMEX, again provided that the residual amount charged to your card is $250 or less
  2. After credit has posted, and at least 48 hours after buying it, cancel it (ensure there's no fee for cancelling it) so you get an updated eCredit for the full ticket amount.
    • alternatively, if you buy a ticket far enough in the future, there is no particular need to cancel the ticket, just change it once you have some new dates or itinerary in mind (you can change origin, destination or both)
    • however, note that the waiver of change fees on Basic Economy tickets is ending: https://www.delta.com/us/en/travel-p...sbeforeapril30
    • thus you should use main cabin tickets for this purpose (assuming DL does not extend the BE policy due to omicron etc.)
  3. You can even use the result of (2) as an eCredit to repeat step 1 with a different AMEX card if you have multiples. Note that in this context, changing an unflown future ticket is exactly equivalent to an eCredit in the amount of the ticket's value.
To re-iterate, you do not necessarily have to start with a gift card. As noted in step 1, an existing eCredit will work just as well; and changing an existing ticket is equivalent to using an eCredit. If you do not have an existing eCredit, you can easily create one by simply buying a cheap ticket (important: basic economy flexibility has ended as of Dec 2021, so you must buy main cabin for this to work). There are often $40-$50 one-ways available in shorthaul markets; see post 212 for a way to search for these by calendar on the new ITA Matrix interface (see post 108 for the old "classic" Matrix UI)

Gift cards purchased directly from Delta online are often not activated until 24-72 hours later as an anti-fraud measure. Physical gift cards purchased in retail stores (grocery, office, etc.) may activate sooner. Buying a cheap eCredit avoids these issues.

More details:
  • Relevantly, split tender where you partially pay with a gift card, existing credit, VDB voucher etc. and partly charged to your card, are processed by DL as an add/collect and trigger the credit per above.
  • Thus if you anticipate actually buying, say, a $200 DL ticket, you could buy a single $50 gift card, then buy the ticket using $50 GC and $150 on your card (the $150 will be reimbursed). This is just an example; as per the previous bullet there is no reason it needs to be specifically $50, or even a gift card. An existing eCredit, or modifying an unflown ticket, will work just as well. The "additional collection" is what leads to the credit, the reason why it is "additional" is unimportant.
    • In general, only additional collections less than ~$250 are automatically reimbursed. If you use a $50 gift card to buy a $500 ticket, a $450 additional collection will be generated but it will not be auto-reimbursed by Amex.
    • If you already have gift cards or ecredits in particular denominations that don't line up well with the price of the ticket you want to buy (additional collection will end up being too much to get auto-reimbursed or too little to efficiently use up the fee credit), consider whether you may be able to reach a better outcome by splitting up the purchase -- buying a round trip as two one ways or buying multiple passengers separately. But, note that buying 2 one-ways instead of a round trip can sometimes cost more, making it not worthwhile, and note the caveats about multiple passenger purchases below, as well as considering the risk that buying 2 passengers separately can have negative implications for Medallion upgrades (if applicable) as well as creating the risk that you are separated from your travel companions if there is a flight cancellation.
  • The "additional collection" transaction notation shows up after the transaction posts, on the website only (both desktop and mobile) if you click into a transaction to view the details (it does not appear in the app, or while the purchase is pending)
  • Note that special care is needed when booking tickets for 2 or more people in a single transaction.
    • When booking multiple people in a single transaction on Delta.com, each person's ticket charges to the credit card in a separate transaction, and gift cards are used starting with the first ticket until they are exhausted. So for example if you were booking 2x $210 tickets, for a total transaction of $420, if you used a $200 gift card the charges would post to Amex as a $10 additional collection on the first person and a $210 regular ticket charge for the second person, resulting in only a $10 reimbursement. For the same two tickets if you used a $230 gift card, the first person would be covered entirely by the gift card and the second person's ticket would charge as a $190 additional collection, resulting in a $190 reimbursement.
    • If for example you wanted to buy 2 $125 tickets ($250 total) using 2 $50 gift cards, if you bought both in a single transaction both gift cards would apply to the first ticket -- in order to get 2 $75 additional collection charges you would have to buy the 2 tickets in separate transactions using one gift card on each. Note that there may be other downsides to buying the tickets in separate transactions, including that you could be separated if there are schedule changes or day-of flight cancellations (Delta should be able to put you back together after the former, but may not be able to do after the latter), and there could be implications for how various benefits are treated, such as losing the ability to share a credit card holder bag fee wavier with companions or in some cases resulting in different rules around Medallion companion upgrades.
    • This would work differently if ecredits are used instead of gift cards since ecredits are not transferrable -- ecredits can only be applied to a ticket for a person whose name is on the ecredit; if other people are booked in the same transaction, any leftover ecredit balance will *not* be applied to those other people (and will remain as an ecredit in the account of the named person, available for future use).
    • Using Pay With Miles for multiple people works differently as well -- see this post for details.
  • Canceling a ticket within the 24-hour[1] risk-free period generally results in funds being returned to where they came from (GC back to GC and CC back to CC) even if the ticket is non-refundable; also, Delta interprets the 24-hour risk free cancellation period generously -- you actually have until midnight of the day following the day of booking (in which time zone is oft-speculated but unclear). Thus, this can work out to nearly 48 hours if the timing is exactly right. Hence the suggestion above to cancel only after 48 hours, or avoid canceling altogether.
  • There is no particular reason to be in a rush to cancel the ticket. You can avoid the headache of guessing whether the risk-free period has passed by simply booking a ticket that is weeks or months in the future (just remember to cancel it, or change it to a ticket you actually intend to fly, before the flight time on the original ticket). Alternatively you can contact Delta and explicitly request an eCredit (they will be happy to hold on to your money even if you were theoretically eligible for a full refund)
  • FCM offers may require accepting for the entire trip (vs just one segment) or calling in to up-fare the whole trip (please post data points either way)

Paying for a ticket partially with SkyMiles

NOTE that DL has two different programs for partially paying with SkyMiles, that seem superficially similar, but are quite different
  • Pay With Miles is a feature available to DL-branded AMEX cardholders that lets you pay for part of your ticket using SkyMiles in increments of 5,000 miles = $50. If you use PWM then the remaining amount charged to your card posts as additional collection and will qualify for the fee credit (multiple data points)
  • Miles + Cash is like buying an award ticket but using cash to substitute for some of the miles. As an example, you might be offered a ticket for 40,000 miles + $5.60, or 30,000 miles + $205.60 (these numbers are made up). If you choose the latter option what you are really doing is buying 10,000 miles for $200, then using those 10,000 miles plus 30,000 that you already had to buy the 40,000 ticket + $5.60 in taxes. This will post as two separate transactions, $200 for the miles purchase, and $5.60 for the taxes on the award ticket. The $5.60 will be reimbursed (just like any other award ticket). The $200 seems like it does not get automatically reimbursed, although it may post as "Frequent Flyer Fee/Purchase" in which case you have a pretty good case for getting it credited manually by contacting AMEX.
  • Note: Miles + Cash is usually a terrible value (even for SkyMiles)
  • See the list of FAQs at the bottom of the "Pay With Miles" page for more info (search in particular for "What is the difference between Pay with Miles and Miles + Cash?")


other non Gift Card options
  • baggage and other service fees (same day change/standby, change fees, etc.)
  • taxes on award flights (including the $5.60 September 11 security fee)
  • in-flight purchases such as food and drinks
  • Wifi passes to the new Viasat system may reimburse; wifi purchases on the old Gogo system do not. More information about which provider is available on which plane can be found here; Viasat flights offer a $5 per flight pass while Gogo usually charges more than that and is purchased from a website with Gogo in the URL.
  • SkyClub access/guest fees (but NOT gift cards purchased at a SC, which are actually activated at a 3rd party web site)
  • mileage boosts (post 2499) trip extras have been discontinued
  • The $59 for Delta Skymiles Select is reimbursed (posts 2180, 2182) SkyMiles Select is no longer available for purchase

these may not credit automatically, but people have had success getting them processed manually after the fact
  • seat purchase fees (if you buy an upgrade and it does not credit automatically and you call in, do not call it an upgrade, call it a seat purchase/assignment fee)
  • premium beverages purchased in the Sky Club (post 462)

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Old Feb 12, 2022, 11:08 am
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did not seen this in wiki...will a physical gc at office stores work sooner than the 72 hrs holding? TIA

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Old Feb 12, 2022, 11:53 am
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Originally Posted by Illinwu
The credit was issued on 2/11.
Just to clarify, did this end up crediting on its own? Or because you contacted AMEX (you had mentioned earlier that you might call in)

Originally Posted by ddjen11
did not seen this in wiki...will a physical gc at office stores work sooner than the 72 hrs holding at the web site? TIA
Generally yes, although as a reminder an eCredit or changing an existing ticket works just as well as using a gift card. There are currently $39 fares from LAX<=>LAS in March.

Updating my screencaps in post 108 for the new interface at https://matrix.itasoftware.com/search on how to find these (could also use Google Flights for a simpler interface although there is no good way to filter out Basic Economy, but you could mentally add $20 or whatever to the prices)

Although Matrix turns airport names into these bubbles, you can also type or paste in a comma-separated list of airports, or
- type in one airport like SFO
- click on the + icon to the right of the field
- select "Near SFO" and move the mileage slider to something like 1000
- Select All
- remove all the Canada/Mexico airports (for the origin only, you can leave international airports in the destination)



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Old Feb 12, 2022, 3:50 pm
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I've been under a COVID rock for the past 2 years and just realized all of my eCredits can only be applied to flights I book for myself...

If I use my Aspire and Platinum 2022 reimbursements to book flights for my wife, and then cancel them, will the eCredits be in her name? I'm hoping yes, as it would be more useful that way as we'd like to take some trips together (I already have a ton of eCredits in my name...)
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Old Feb 12, 2022, 3:51 pm
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[QUOTE=Zorak;33986069]Just to clarify, did this end up crediting on its own? Or because you contacted AMEX (you had mentioned earlier that you might call in)


The credit was issued on its own.
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Old Feb 12, 2022, 7:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Zorak
Generally yes, although as a reminder an eCredit or changing an existing ticket works just as well as using a gift card. There are currently $39 fares from LAX<=>LAS in March.
Updating my screencaps in post 108 for the new interface at https://matrix.itasoftware.com/search on how to find these (could also use Google Flights for a simpler interface although there is no good way to filter out Basic Economy, but you could mentally add $20 or whatever to the prices)
Thanks! using your approach, found a $38 trip in early march, main cabin + non-refundable. If we cancel this we can use the ecert for later trip on different city pairs correct?

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Old Feb 12, 2022, 9:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Illinwu
The credit was issued on its own.
Wow, that's an abnormally long time. I wonder if it got missed by the system in January and then credited as part of some catch-up process (similar to how some of the monthly Plat credits got severely delayed at one point last year but did eventually get fixed on their own for people who didn't call in first...)

Originally Posted by ddjen11
Thanks! using your approach, found a $38 trip in early march, main cabin + non-refundable. If we cancel this we can use the ecert for later trip on different city pairs correct?
Yep.
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Old Feb 13, 2022, 8:36 pm
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  • Feb 6 - Purchased 3x award tickets
    • pending charge showed ~$280 (total fees)
  • Feb 10th - the single pending charge split into 3 charges of ~$90(fees per ticket)
  • Feb 13 - reimbursed for $200
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Old Feb 13, 2022, 8:51 pm
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I purchased two tickets (each $400) and used a $200 e-credit. according to the wiki my card should be charged $200 and $400 and the $200 charge should trigger the credit. Under pending charges I see a single $600 charge from delta. Is this expected? Will it change to two separate charges after pending?
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Old Feb 13, 2022, 9:02 pm
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Originally Posted by captainamerica
I purchased two tickets (each $400) and used a $200 e-credit. according to the wiki my card should be charged $200 and $400 and the $200 charge should trigger the credit. Under pending charges I see a single $600 charge from delta. Is this expected? Will it change to two separate charges after pending?
See my previous post - I had a similar experience when paying the fees on 3 award tickets. The pending charge changed to 3 separate charges after few days. So I think you'll see the same result.
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Old Feb 13, 2022, 10:13 pm
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Yeah, similar - booked 2 award tickets on 2/1. Transaction posted on 2/2 with taxes separated. Reimbursement posted 2/6, so it does seem to be taking a little longer than I believe it used to.
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Old Feb 14, 2022, 8:36 pm
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Pretty awesome flight credit can be used through 2023

Unrelated but what happened to the disable infinite scroll option?
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Old Feb 14, 2022, 9:18 pm
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....what happened to the disable infinite scroll option?
It's still on this page: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/prof...do=editoptions

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Old Feb 14, 2022, 11:19 pm
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I figured I'd report to the thread that I used a $100 GC for the additional collect. I then purchased a new $100 GC and that triggered the "Pay $300, get $100 back" Amex Offer.

For my wife's credit I will probably go for with Zorak's $100, change to $300, cancel for eCredit approach, because she doesn't have any flights planned in the next few months.
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Old Feb 17, 2022, 9:34 pm
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so I'm a little confused here I'm looking to get a one way ticket delta comfort+ refundable for 233.60 total (157.21 flight 44.51 upgrades and 29.88 taxes) are you guys saying in order for this to work with the incidental on the plat I should use a gift card of $50 or so first? or should I just be looking to book a cheaper flight first then cancel that and use the credits?

would this process be any different if I purchase 1st class instead? this would still be below the 250 total although not refundable

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Old Feb 18, 2022, 4:40 am
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Originally Posted by garlicbread
so I'm a little confused here I'm looking to get a one way ticket delta comfort+ refundable for 233.60 total (157.21 flight 44.51 upgrades and 29.88 taxes) are you guys saying in order for this to work with the incidental on the plat I should use a gift card of $50 or so first? or should I just be looking to book a cheaper flight first then cancel that and use the credits?

would this process be any different if I purchase 1st class instead? this would still be below the 250 total although not refundable
Doesn't matter what class of service you purchase or whether it's refundable ... key is just that you want to have a flight change ("additional collection") transaction for an amount <$250. Buying a ticket and paying in part with a gift card processes like a flight change transaction in Delta's systems, or so does paying in part with an eCredit.

Seat upgrades (purchased from the seat map) do NOT process in the same way, so not sure what you mean by upgrades, but probably better to buy the C+ or First ticket outright rather than buying coach and then buying an upgrade.

So if you bought a $50 gift card and then used it + Amex to pay for a $233 ticket, you would have a $183 "additional collection" transaction on your Amex which should reimburse automatically, and you would have $17 of incidental credit left that you could use in a future transaction.
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