Does $450 Brilliant make more sense than two $95 Bonvoys?
I have two regular, $95 Bonvoy cards, one Amex and one Chase, as a result of the merger and my SPG being converted. After the recent re-categorizing, I'm wondering if getting rid of those and replacing them with the Brilliant might make more sense for me. I'd be replacing two $95 cards, with 35K FNAs, with one $450 card with one 50K FNA and a $300 hotel credit, and it seems like the latter scenario would be easier to redeem than to try to find 35Ks. I'd still get the 6x multiplier, and while Amex isn't as widely accepted in Europe, most of my stays would be in the US anyway.
Am I missing something, or does in this case having one $450 card actually make things easier than two $95 cards? |
Until recently you could stay at Ritz Carltons with a 50K FNA. I do not think you can find any Ritz or St Regis on 30K anymore.
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Originally Posted by surfmonkey89
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I have two regular, $95 Bonvoy cards, one Amex and one Chase, as a result of the merger and my SPG being converted. After the recent re-categorizing, I'm wondering if getting rid of those and replacing them with the Brilliant might make more sense for me. I'd be replacing two $95 cards, with 35K FNAs, with one $450 card with one 50K FNA and a $300 hotel credit, and it seems like the latter scenario would be easier to redeem than to try to find 35Ks. I'd still get the 6x multiplier, and while Amex isn't as widely accepted in Europe, most of my stays would be in the US anyway.
Am I missing something, or does in this case having one $450 card actually make things easier than two $95 cards? LAX |
Originally Posted by LAX
(Post 32049555)
I am no expert when it comes to hotel programs, but it depends what type of properties you typically stay. 35K eligible properties are not terribly hard to find if you are not picky about quality or prime location. You get 2 nights at those properties for $190 in AF. On the other hand, you get only one night at a more decent property for an effective $150 AF. I personally have two $95 cards (actually one of them is going up to $125 at renewal) and would likely keep both if the Amex (business) is not going up in AF. I am okay with an occasion stay in a Cat 2/3 property for $95, but not $125.
LAX The 35K cert continues to be valuable for Courtyard, Residence Inn, AC, etc in most markets (though it is kind of funny that Moxy properties in many markets went up beyond the 35K value). But a lot of people don’t seem to want to use certs that way |
Yes, that’s exactly right. Seems like I’d have more flexibility, and really have two free nights, with one of them in an real-life currency that can’t be arbitrarily devalued by Marriott.
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Originally Posted by surfmonkey89
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Yes, that’s exactly right. Seems like I’d have more flexibility, and really have two free nights, with one of them in an real-life currency that can’t be arbitrarily devalued by Marriott.
LAX |
The coming, march 4, annual Marriott Category adjustments list show a particularly hard hit to desirable 35k properties being moved up from Cat 5 to cat 6. This likely has a lot to do with these CC certificates since in large part Marriott categories are set by redemption and not cash booking demand.
it’s show a particularly hard it to NYC properties available to 35k Certificates and Resorts. Peak points pricing has also had somewhat of an effect. what I’ve found is though it looks like I’ll get at least $95 in value out of the certificate. It’ll be much more questionable that I’d get the $125 value out of the certificate that come with my business Bonvoy card for now my Brilliant gives very good value but that mostly from the cash back on Marriott spending from AmEx offers and the retention bonus points I received last year. |
It's a matter of opinion. Depends what kind of stays you are looking at. Sure you can use the 2 free nights on properties that could cost more than $95, if that's what you really want. You could also make the Brilliant pay off too if you want.
For me, I've lost interest in the lower tier "free nights". Sure I can get one over by "saving" $50-$100 on a generic room. At the end of the day, there are often other options available to do something similar, and I find myself no longer trying to align the planets and forcing myself to stay at places I had no interest in staying at. I'd go with the Brilliant. |
For me it's generally neutral as $300 of the fee is a wash (money I would have spent at Marriott hotels directly versus to Amex). With the remaining $150 of AF, I can definitely get more value out of the free night cert than $150 so it's a bit of savings. Not a massive savings, but the extra points on Marriott spending are also nice. I don't actually use this card for anything else than Marriott spending. If/when the rooms available for the free night become too difficult to use to get a value, I would consider dropping this card. The $300 credit/offset is a better arrangement than the Amex Hilton Aspire where it's only usable at "resort" hotels.
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Originally Posted by surfmonkey89
(Post 32049192)
I have two regular, $95 Bonvoy cards, one Amex and one Chase, as a result of the merger and my SPG being converted. After the recent re-categorizing, I'm wondering if getting rid of those and replacing them with the Brilliant might make more sense for me. I'd be replacing two $95 cards, with 35K FNAs, with one $450 card with one 50K FNA and a $300 hotel credit, and it seems like the latter scenario would be easier to redeem than to try to find 35Ks. I'd still get the 6x multiplier, and while Amex isn't as widely accepted in Europe, most of my stays would be in the US anyway.
Am I missing something, or does in this case having one $450 card actually make things easier than two $95 cards?
Originally Posted by surfmonkey89
(Post 32051854)
Yes, that’s exactly right. Seems like I’d have more flexibility, and really have two free nights, with one of them in an real-life currency that can’t be arbitrarily devalued by Marriott.
As I have both the AMEX Marriott personal and business, this approach (having just Brilliant) might work out better. It will defiently open up an AMEX 5 credit card slot. |
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