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Airline fee $250/$200/$100 reimbursement reports: DL only (2020-21)

Old Jan 6, 2020, 1:19 pm
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Reminder: you must enroll and select your airline BEFORE making a reimbursable purchase. http://www.americanexpress.com/airlinechoice -or- "Call the number on the back of your Card to select a qualifying airline."

Credit posting delays range from several business days (typical) to several weeks (seen in Oct 2015). The T&Cs state that it could take up to four weeks, so wait at least that long before worrying, and certainly don't contact Amex prematurely

Caution: effective from 22 June 2019, gift card purchases from Delta do not get reimbursed.

Read this primer first
  • In the Amex Membership Rewards family, both the Consumer and Business versions of the Platinum and Centurion cards qualify for a $200 airline credit. The Premier Rewards Gold (PRG) card is eligible for a $100 airline credit (the Gold credit is going away in 2022). Hilton Aspire AMEX is eligible for a $250 airline credit.
  • You must click here to select Delta as your enrolled airline before you make a reimbursable purchase, else the benefit won't apply. The feature is activated immediately upon airline designation.
  • If you've selected DL in the past and don't wish to change airlines, there's no need to select again; current selection rolls into future years until modified.
  • The T&Cs state the eligible charges, but YMMV, so don't call and ask especially about the fuzzier cases below because that will probably hasten closing of any loopholes.
  • The credit is per account, not per card. If the main account has authorized users with additional cards, eligible charges may still be made on those cards, but they'll count jointly towards the same account limit.
  • Credits are capped per calendar year, meaning you could tap the full amount on Dec 31st and again on Jan 1st in the extreme. Transaction date, not posting date, determines the year. Note: This is not my experience. I purchased Dec 31, 2016, posted Jan 1, 2017 and went against my 2017 credit. (TheMadBrewer)
  • You will get a partial credit to bring your total annual reimbursements to the limit exactly if a qualifying charge takes you past the limit.
  • After four weeks, if you've read this Wiki carefully and posted here seeking assistance but the credit still has not arrived, consider chatting with Amex online. Politely mention the "Delta extras" you thought would be reimbursed within four weeks and they'll handle it.

Additional Collections/Split Tender -- THIS IS A LOOPHOLE. BE DISCREET

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TL;DR: Anything coded as an additional collection (a.k.a. add/collect or a/c), including difference in fare when changing flights, and accepting an FCM offer, also triggers the credit and will be reimbursed, provided that the amount charged to your card is $250 or less (regardless of card type, e.g. there have been reports of full $100 credit for Gold card on a/c over $100 and full $200 credit for Plat on a/c over $200, but always $250 or less)
How to do it: With waived fee for cancellation/changes on non-refundable tickets (due to COVID-19) you get an eCredit when cancelling it, so you can:
  1. Buy a non-refundable ticket with any combination of gift card/eCredit plus your AMEX, again provided that the residual amount charged to your card is $250 or less
  2. After credit has posted, and at least 48 hours after buying it, cancel it (ensure there's no fee for cancelling it) so you get an updated eCredit for the full ticket amount.
    • alternatively, if you buy a ticket far enough in the future, there is no particular need to cancel the ticket, just change it once you have some new dates or itinerary in mind (you can change origin, destination or both)
    • however, note that the waiver of change fees on Basic Economy tickets is ending: https://www.delta.com/us/en/travel-p...sbeforeapril30
    • thus you should use main cabin tickets for this purpose (assuming DL does not extend the BE policy due to omicron etc.)
  3. You can even use the result of (2) as an eCredit to repeat step 1 with a different AMEX card if you have multiples. Note that in this context, changing an unflown future ticket is exactly equivalent to an eCredit in the amount of the ticket's value.
More details:
  • Relevantly, split tender where you partially pay with a gift card, existing credit, VDB voucher etc. and partly charged to your card, are processed by DL as an add/collect and trigger the credit per above.
  • Thus if you anticipate actually buying, say, a $200 DL ticket, you could buy a single $50 gift card, then buy the ticket using $50 GC and $150 on your card (the $150 will be reimbursed). This is just an example; as per the previous bullet there is no reason it needs to be specifically $50, or even a gift card. The "additional collection" is what leads to the credit, the reason why it is "additional" is unimportant.
    • In general, only additional collections less than ~$250 are automatically reimbursed. If you use a $50 gift card to buy a $500 ticket, a $450 additional collection will be generated but it will not be auto-reimbursed by Amex.
    • If you already have gift cards or ecredits in particular denominations that don't line up well with the price of the ticket you want to buy (additional collection will end up being too much to get auto-reimbursed or too little to efficiently use up the fee credit), consider whether you may be able to reach a better outcome by splitting up the purchase -- buying a round trip as two one ways or buying multiple passengers separately. But, note that buying 2 one-ways instead of a round trip can sometimes cost more, making it not worthwhile, and note the caveats about multiple passenger purchases below, as well as considering the risk that buying 2 passengers separately can have negative implications for Medallion upgrades (if applicable) as well as creating the risk that you are separated from your travel companions if there is a flight cancellation.
  • The "additional collection" transaction notation shows up after the transaction posts, on the website only (both desktop and mobile) if you click into a transaction to view the details (it does not appear in the app, or while the purchase is pending)
  • Note that special care is needed when booking tickets for 2 or more people in a single transaction.
    • When booking multiple people in a single transaction on Delta.com, each person's ticket charges to the credit card in a separate transaction, and gift cards are used starting with the first ticket until they are exhausted. So for example if you were booking 2x $210 tickets, for a total transaction of $420, if you used a $200 gift card the charges would post to Amex as a $10 additional collection on the first person and a $210 regular ticket charge for the second person, resulting in only a $10 reimbursement. For the same two tickets if you used a $220 gift card, the first person would be covered entirely by the gift card and the second person's ticket would charge as a $190 additional collection, resulting in a $190 reimbursement.
    • This would work differently if ecredits are used instead of gift cards since ecredits are not transferrable -- ecredits can only be applied to a ticket for a person whose name is on the ecredit; if other people are booked in the same transaction, any leftover ecredit balance will *not* be applied to those other people.
  • Canceling a ticket within the 24-hour[1] risk-free period generally results in funds being returned to where they came from (GC back to GC and CC back to CC) even if the ticket is non-refundable; also, Delta interprets the 24-hour risk free cancellation period generously -- you actually have until midnight of the day following the day of booking (in which time zone is oft-speculated but unclear). Thus, this can work out to nearly 48 hours if the timing is exactly right. Hence the suggestion above to cancel only after 48 hours, or avoid canceling altogether.
  • Caution when buying multiple tickets in a single transaction: for example if you buy two $125 tickets in one transaction (total $250) and use one $100 GC or even two $50 GCs, they will all be applied to the same ticket and you would see one additional collection for $25 on that ticket and a separate "normal" charge for $125 for the second ticket. In this scenario only $25 will be reimbursed (instead of the $150 you might be expecting). In this situation you would need to book the two tickets separately to get the credit on each one.
  • FCM offers may require accepting for the entire trip (vs just one segment) or calling in to up-fare the whole trip (please post data points either way)

Paying for a ticket partially with SkyMiles

NOTE that DL has two different programs for partially paying with SkyMiles, that seem superficially similar, but are quite different
  • Pay With Miles is a feature available to DL-branded AMEX cardholders that lets you pay for part of your ticket using SkyMiles in increments of 5,000 miles = $50. If you use PWM then the remaining amount charged to your card posts as additional collection and will qualify for the fee credit (multiple data points)
  • Miles + Cash is like buying an award ticket but using cash to substitute for some of the miles. As an example, you might be offered a ticket for 40,000 miles + $5.60, or 30,000 miles + $205.60 (these numbers are made up). If you choose the latter option what you are really doing is buying 10,000 miles for $200, then using those 10,000 miles plus 30,000 that you already had to buy the 40,000 ticket + $5.60 in taxes. This will post as two separate transactions, $200 for the miles purchase, and $5.60 for the taxes on the award ticket. The $5.60 will be reimbursed (just like any other award ticket). The $200 seems like it does not get automatically reimbursed, although it may post as "Frequent Flyer Fee/Purchase" in which case you have a pretty good case for getting it credited manually by contacting AMEX.
  • Note: Miles + Cash is usually a terrible value (even for SkyMiles)
  • See the list of FAQs at the bottom of the "Pay With Miles" page for more info (search in particular for "What is the difference between Pay with Miles and Miles + Cash?")


other non Gift Card options
  • baggage and other service fees (same day change/standby, change fees, etc.)
  • taxes on award flights (including the $5.60 September 11 security fee)
  • in-flight purchases (EXCEPT wifi) -- although currently nothing available due to COVID?
  • SkyClub access/guest fees (but NOT gift cards purchased at a SC, which are actually activated at a 3rd party web site)
  • mileage boosts (post 2499) trip extras have been discontinued
  • The $59 for Delta Skymiles Select is reimbursed (posts 2180, 2182) SkyMiles Select is no longer available for purchase

these may not credit automatically, but people have had success getting them processed manually after the fact
  • seat purchase fees (if you buy an upgrade and it does not credit automatically and you call in, do not call it an upgrade, call it a seat purchase/assignment fee)
  • premium beverages purchased in the Sky Club (post 462)

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Airline fee $250/$200/$100 reimbursement reports: DL only (2020-21)

Old Feb 12, 2021, 1:44 am
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Originally Posted by mattp1987
I wouldn't expect to receive the credit for that. As stated in the Wiki, the Additional Collection charge to your card needs to be less than or equal to $250 to trigger the credit. Since your ticket is refundable, if you aren't actually planning to fly it you should be able to refund it and try again with a $300 or less ticket.
This is true. I accidentally charged $261 to my Aspire and received no credit. Then charged $238 and it credited.
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Old Feb 12, 2021, 2:00 am
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Originally Posted by phant0m
Seat upgrades did not automatically reimburse. Chat with Amex they manually did it.

$222 additional collection auto reimbursed $200.

$507 additional collection did not auto reimburse. I'll see if chat will take care of that.
Originally Posted by diesteldorf
Did the $507 post as a single charge? Normally the amount has to be under $250 to reimburse automatically.
Amex chat credited me $250 for my $507 charge.
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Old Feb 12, 2021, 10:04 pm
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I suppose there may not be many data points for this year due to lack of flying.

Does the $50 GC work around still work? Where you use the GC and then put the remaining ticket amount on the Platinum card. This would be for the AMEX Platinum airline credit

Thank you.

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Old Feb 13, 2021, 9:30 am
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Originally Posted by dkerr
We're talking about different promotions. Currently Amex has an offer of a $50 rebate for purchases of $50 or more at BestBuy.com... can claim twice, expires June 30th. So the OP's question was can we leverage that offer to get a $50 Delta Airlines gift card for free by buying it through BestBuy.com. Then you use that gift card to buy a ticket and generate the "additional collection" which gets rebated through the Amex travel incidentals offer. Its a great idea, but question is whether the gift card purchase at BestBuy.com would qualify for that Amex offer. The T&C language suggests probably not.
Data point -
Purchased a physical $50 delta gift card from Best Buy online using AMEX platinum. A few days later we received the $50 Best Buy credit to the AMEX.
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Old Feb 13, 2021, 9:51 am
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Booked a flight yesterday, $236. Used $30 e-credit and remainder of $206 on platinium. Will cancel tomorrow and rebook actual flight before March 30th (Delta's new deadline to book and receive free changes on flights originating outside the US).
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Old Feb 13, 2021, 11:42 am
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I have no intentions to fly within the next year but booked a nonrefundable flight (temporary COVID policy means it's no different than a refundable flight according to past post). From some reading, there's no way to extend the date of expiration by rebooking since it's based on 365 days since original booking, right? Best option is to either cancel the flight for e-credit to use within 365 days (perhaps I can sell it to others for a discount) or refund to original payment (and risk a likely clawback in the future, though there won't be an immediate clawback as these generally come in waves from my understanding)? I don't see any benefit to rebooking to the 365th date if I know I won't be traveling.

RIP UA travel funds and I was actually thinking of AA mileage multiplier for a risk-free use of the credit but it is abysmal for value.
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Old Feb 13, 2021, 12:31 pm
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Originally Posted by WillTins3
I suppose there may not be many data points for this year due to lack of flying.

Does the $50 GC work around still work if you purchase a tix on the comp? This would be for the AMEX Platinum airline credit
What does "purchase a tix on the comp" mean?
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Old Feb 13, 2021, 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by ijgordon
What does "purchase a tix on the comp" mean?
Computer?
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Old Feb 13, 2021, 1:34 pm
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Originally Posted by ijgordon
What does "purchase a tix on the comp" mean?
Purchase airline ticket(s) using a computer rather than a mobile device. The desktop/mobile distinction was important a few years back when gift card purchases were directly reimbursed. I do not think it matters now, in this context.

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Old Feb 13, 2021, 1:41 pm
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Originally Posted by ijgordon
What does "purchase a tix on the comp" mean?
I edited my comment to hopefully eliminated any confusion. But I was referring to when it was recommended to make the purchase on a computer rather than mobile device
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Old Feb 13, 2021, 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by WillTins3
I suppose there may not be many data points for this year due to lack of flying.

Does the $50 GC work around still work? Where you use the GC and then put the remaining ticket amount on the Platinum card. This would be for the AMEX Platinum airline credit

Thank you.
I don't think there's been any particular lack of data points in 2020/2021, including that there are some from the past ~2 weeks in the last 2-3 pages of the thread.
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Old Feb 13, 2021, 3:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Zorak
I don't think there's been any particular lack of data points in 2020/2021, including that there are some from the past ~2 weeks in the last 2-3 pages of the thread.
Fair point and I may have overlooked things while reading more recent threads but it seemed most of those threads were centered on booking, cancelling to get an e credit and re booking and stuff like that.

I'm just curious if the Amex Platinum annual airline credit can still be triggered by purchasing a $50 gift card and then using said gift card to pay for a portion of a flight ticket and use Platinum to pay for the rest of the ticket cost.
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Old Feb 13, 2021, 4:03 pm
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Originally Posted by WillTins3
I'm just curious if the Amex Platinum.....
See post 1270 on February 1. (Aspire, Platinum and Gold reports are interchangeable. The only difference is the credit amount.)
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Old Feb 14, 2021, 3:05 am
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Most efficient use of a GC

I was about to use a $50 gift card on a $109 flight for me and then another $50 gift card for the same $109 flight for my wife on Delta in order to activate the airline credit.. I then got to thinking, that would leave me with about $83 left over on the Platinum airline credit. So to use up that $83 I would at some point need to use another $50 gift card to use up the $83. So based on my current flight and not using up my credits, it would require me to use up 3 $50 gift cards to fully use up the airline credit. I don't view that as good value using up a 3rd gift card. Ideally you would want to just use up one $50 gift card to get the $200 credits used up, not 2 and 3 gift cards. Keep those gift cards for next time or for other trips.

I am not sure if i will really travel more this year or not after this flight so not sure if the remaining airline credit would be used later on.

Would the best bet be to use the $50 gift card and just purchase some random ticket that is around $250 or just below $250. and then wait a few days and cancel the ticket so the funds will then go to my Delta credit. This way I only waste one of my $50 gift cards rather than 2 or even 3 of my Delta Gift cards?

The only other option might be to get a $25 gift card and try that but I'm not sure if the $25 gift card works as a data point.

I was about to book this ticket but will hold off. Will be a basic economy ticket. No, not looking to spend a little extra to upgrade a seat. Would like to maximize for the $200 credit as much as possible if I do end up taking another trip later in the year.

Thank you for your advice.

or I am an idiot. Instead of doing 2 separate tickets I could just add mine and my wifes ticket on the same itinerary. Sorry, I was not thinking last night lol Still would not use up the full $200 bucks but close enough I guess. Then could use the remaining $40 I guess to get her into the Sky Club in Atlanta

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Old Feb 14, 2021, 5:52 am
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Originally Posted by WillTins3
The only other option might be to get a $25....
Scroll back to April 2020, post 541 and read forward until all of your questions and concerns are addressed.
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