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david22 Jul 5, 2019 12:08 pm

FHR flexible online bookings and rate changes?
 
Hello,

I'm a travel optimizer and I like to book flexible rates far in advance and change the reservation if the rates drop to lock in the lower rates. With direct hotel bookings it's usually trivial to use the confirmation number and "modify reservation" (or call in). But with Amex FHR online bookings I've always found it difficult. You can't do it on the website online and they won't do it over chat either. Last time I canceled the reservation and made a new one to avoid having to call in.

Why not just call in? The reservation is for my mother and she is an authorized user on my account. I handle the travel bookings for her. But whenever I call Amex they always end up asking me for some PIN I don't have and then they want me to go through an arduous reset process and play fifty questions with SSNs, etc.

This time I noticed a price drop less than a week before the stay and I don't want to outright make a new reservation because I've already been in contact with the front desk and they have notes on the reservation, concierge stuff arranged, etc. This is a prepaid but flexible Amex FHR (want those 5x points).

Any other avenues I'm missing?

Gig103 Jul 9, 2019 5:05 pm

I have been unable to change reservations as well, I had to make the new booking and then cancel the old one. I dunno why Amex can't handle this either, and this isn't just FHR, it's any flexible room.

I do know that if you use the website the PTS folks can't help at all, they have a different system. The website is administered by the Expedia Group, so maybe it's a limitation of their system?

david22 Jul 9, 2019 8:04 pm

Thanks for your reply! Interesting to hear that the website is Expedia behind the scenes...

geoffk Jul 10, 2019 10:58 am

I always just cancel and rebook.

Gig103 Jul 10, 2019 2:01 pm

I wonder if it could be because the flexible rates are sometimes still prepaid with Amex Travel, and it's easier to refund than to try to modify a charge.

Also I did want to remind you and others reading this, that it's best to book the new room and then cancel the old one... Since inventory is dynamic, you releasing a room could cause rates to go back up in the interim. This was something told to me so I wanted to pass it along.

ijgordon Jul 10, 2019 3:24 pm


Originally Posted by Gig103 (Post 31290121)
Since inventory is dynamic, you releasing a room could cause rates to go back up in the interim.

Well, that seems counter-intuitive, no?

Gig103 Jul 10, 2019 3:46 pm


Originally Posted by ijgordon (Post 31290420)
Well, that seems counter-intuitive, no?

Not to me but maybe because i'm used to the cruise-line industry (as opposed to the airline industry), where occupancy is desired enough that at the last minute, getting any amount of money is better than a vacant room. Cancelling a room could change some ratio, or triggers some filter/rule. It won't always matter since inventory management systems are adept at anticipating demand, such as knowing if there's a convention in town, but it did make sense to me.

gengar Jul 11, 2019 3:46 pm


Originally Posted by david22 (Post 31272748)
This time I noticed a price drop less than a week before the stay and I don't want to outright make a new reservation because I've already been in contact with the front desk and they have notes on the reservation, concierge stuff arranged, etc. This is a prepaid but flexible Amex FHR (want those 5x points).

It really should be no problem dropping the FD a line and getting all the notations transferred. Even less of an issue with the concierge.


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