Chase appears to be sending 1099s for referral bonuses as well based off comments on the interwebz today.
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/chase...%A2-per-point/ |
I wonder how much money is being wasted by AMEX, Chase, and anyone else to mess with these 1099's?
As minimum spend bonuses are considered a rebate, and not 1099'd, they could save a ton of money by simply changing some language in their referral bonuses. For example, they could change it to something like, "Earn 20k bonus points when you refer a new card member who is approved, and you make a purchase on the card to which they were referred in the same month." Or something along those lines anyway. So "in theory" that turns a straight bonus into a "rebate" where you need to also make a purchase (any purchase) on your card in the same month in which they apply. I would think something like that would work, as there are cards which don't require a fixed amount for spend, but just that you spend something. Those don't incur a 1099 and should work to circumvent the 1099 for referral bonuses. It would save them a decent chunk of money most likely, and shouldn't be much of a logic change to their software. |
Bumping this back to the first page, so far only ONE person is saying they received a 1099 for a sign up bonus.............I would think this thread would be 30 pages deep if everyone was getting a 1099 for a SU bonus
We received 3 Hilton NAF to Ascend upgrade bonuses and 4 new DL Gold AMEX via targeted offers in 2018.......... so far no 1099's |
Originally Posted by flyer4512
(Post 30744180)
Bumping this back to the first page, so far only ONE person is saying they received a 1099 for a sign up bonus.............I would think this thread would be 30 pages deep if everyone was getting a 1099 for a SU bonus
We received 3 Hilton NAF to Ascend upgrade bonuses and 4 new DL Gold AMEX via targeted offers in 2018.......... so far no 1099's |
Originally Posted by DjRocket
(Post 30747556)
.... definitely not for referrals as I didn't have any. Haven't decided yet what I'm going to do about it.
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How bizarre and outrageous. Undoubtedly some accountant persuaded some legalistic minded person that somehow this was worth doing to mitigate the risk. I will certainly not bother with referral bonuses, there is no way it is worth my time to be 1099ed and have to deal with that come tax time. |
Originally Posted by mia
(Post 30747819)
Did you receive any other type of bonus, such as Upgrade or Retention?
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AMEX chat rep just mentioned those not in receipt of a 1099 by 1/31/19 should not expect a 1099.
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Originally Posted by cfabar1
(Post 30751379)
How bizarre and outrageous. Undoubtedly some accountant persuaded some legalistic minded person that somehow this was worth doing to mitigate the risk. I will certainly not bother with referral bonuses, there is no way it is worth my time to be 1099ed and have to deal with that come tax time. It's already bad enough that: 1) Rewards are delayed an additional statement. 2) Citi and Chase now have JetBlue as a 1:1 transfer partner while AMEX sits at 250:200. 3) AMEX makes you pay the federal excise tax when transferring miles (nobody else does this). 4) AMEX has been hit or miss on dining bonus categories. 5) AMEX's bonus exceptions when applying for a card "because you've had too many opened AMEX cards recently," and sometimes denying bonuses when the box doesn't pop up for whatever reason. 6) And now taxing referral bonuses. |
Originally Posted by mikesyr18
(Post 30757515)
6) And now taxing referral bonuses.
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Originally Posted by mikesyr18
(Post 30757515)
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6) And now taxing referral bonuses. |
It looks as though Amex considers a referral bonus to be a form of taxable compensation, and signup/retention bonuses are rebates for starting or continuing a business relationship. Do I have that right? |
If memory serves, this long running thread has links to legal material on this topic:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mile...all-banks.html |
Originally Posted by mia
(Post 30757965)
If memory serves, this long running thread has links to legal material on this topic:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mile...all-banks.html |
Originally Posted by krazykanuck
(Post 30757558)
You honestly think this was a voluntary thing? Go take a peek in the Chase forum or on DoC or reddit. Chase is 1099ing people too, and including petty things like retention bonus statement credits.
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