Oct 4, 18, 1:05 pm
Last edit by: roberto99
Faq amex: https://www.americanexpress.com/us/campaigns/gold-card/gold-update-faqs.html
For existing and new cardholders
For new cardholders (Oct 4 2018 and after)
For existing cardholders (Oct 3 2018 or before)
For existing and new cardholders
- Changes below are effective immediately
- 4x US grocery (25k/calendar year), 4x US dining* (*pervasive reports that many dining transactions are not coding as 4x, including but not limited to those from Square or Toast-based POS systems. Scroll down in thread for more reports and information.)
- $120 dining credit ($10 monthly in certain restaurants)
- No change
- $100 calendar year airline reimbursement
- Other
- $250 AF (see below for existing cardholders)
- No 2x gas (removed, see below for existing cardholders who have it till Oct 2019)
- Metal card (contactless)
- Rose gold card - limited edition until Jan 9 2019
- Regular gold card
For new cardholders (Oct 4 2018 and after)
- You may be able to find targeted/referal 50k/$2k, but first AF is not waived
- Signup bonus: You get 20% off restaurant up to $500 restaurant spend (3 month)
- You do not get 2x gas (only for existing cardholders, see below)
For existing cardholders (Oct 3 2018 or before)
- AF will change to $250 for anniversary dates after April 1 2019
- 2x gas will be removed after Oct 2019
- You can chat/call for the gold/rosegold metal card. AU card will get whatever primary cardholder is getting, cannot be different
Premier Rewards Gold refresh: 4x USA dining, groceries, $10/mon dining credit. $250.
Dec 5, 18, 6:16 am
#991
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,844
French Laundry may also not get credit then. It is a place where you drop your clothes off
Dec 5, 18, 6:54 am
#992
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MCC's are generally selected by the merchant's acquirer (the company that processes their card transactions). It's possible that the person who did the setup made an error, but it's unlikely that American Express can change it without the acquirer's participation.
Dec 5, 18, 7:29 am
#993
Join Date: Jul 2008
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No, I know from personal experience that AMEX will change the MCC unilaterally. The policies with AMEX are much more nuanced than, say, Visa/MC, due to AMEX's much greater transactional control. For example, even for lower-volume AMEX merchants who work through an acquirer/MSP, AMEX requires those merchants to report the most accurate MCC to AMEX directly if the acquirer/MSP is not attributing the most accurate MCC.
Dec 8, 18, 5:39 pm
#994
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Atlanta Metro
Programs: DL , AC, BA, Hhonors Diamond, IH Platinum
Posts: 2,259
Here's a bit of potentially useful info:
Just bought a prescription from the pharmacy at the local Publix grocery store. Received quad points. : ) Evidently there is no separate account code for the pharmacy.
On the other hand, bought a meal at the cafeteria in the National Gallery in Washington. Coded as National Gallery, not food. No quad points.
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Just bought a prescription from the pharmacy at the local Publix grocery store. Received quad points. : ) Evidently there is no separate account code for the pharmacy.
On the other hand, bought a meal at the cafeteria in the National Gallery in Washington. Coded as National Gallery, not food. No quad points.
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Dec 8, 18, 6:33 pm
#995
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: RDU
Programs: DL(PM), UA(Silver), Marriott(Ti), HH(Gold), Hertz(PC)
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If I ask for a gold card for an authorized user on my account, can it be the rose gold variant?
Dec 8, 18, 6:40 pm
#996
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It's reported and confirmed that all cards on the account must be the same color. If you still have a plastic card, I don't know if ordering a Rose Gold supplementary card would trigger replacement of your own card, but if you have the Yellow Gold metal version the supplementary card will be the same.
Dec 8, 18, 9:07 pm
#997
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Truth or Consequences, NM
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All of my grocery purchases (at Vons) are coding as 4x....4x restaurants, lol. No complaints - I'm receiving my bonus points - but it brings into question as to whether AMEX has a coding issue.
Then again, maybe it was just easier to code all 4x purchases as one category.
Then again, maybe it was just easier to code all 4x purchases as one category.
Dec 9, 18, 2:20 pm
#998
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: RDU
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It's reported and confirmed that all cards on the account must be the same color. If you still have a plastic card, I don't know if ordering a Rose Gold supplementary card would trigger replacement of your own card, but if you have the Yellow Gold metal version the supplementary card will be the same.
I have a Platinum card. My authorized users can get gold cards at no charge. Can those cards be rose gold?
Dec 9, 18, 3:56 pm
#999
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No, those will be plastic Gold cards that earn the same rewards as your Platinum card. The supplementary Gold cards on a Platinum Card account do not have the benefits or rewards of the card discussed in this thread, which is a separate product.
Dec 9, 18, 4:56 pm
#1000
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All of my grocery purchases (at Vons) are coding as 4x....4x restaurants, lol. No complaints - I'm receiving my bonus points - but it brings into question as to whether AMEX has a coding issue.
Then again, maybe it was just easier to code all 4x purchases as one category.
Then again, maybe it was just easier to code all 4x purchases as one category.
Dec 9, 18, 5:26 pm
#1001
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: RDU
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Alas, I'm not interested in applying for another card at this time, so I guess I will miss out.
Dec 10, 18, 7:41 pm
#1002
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 651
for anyone who frequently goes to a place that does not code as a restaurant, you can go to chat and complain about it (assuming it register as a 'restaurant' in the details).
i did this twice already. they setup a claim with membership rewards and 1 or 2 days later you will receive a call from a amex toll-free number. they just confirm all the places where the issue is happening and the next time you stop by it will register as 4x.
i did this twice already. they setup a claim with membership rewards and 1 or 2 days later you will receive a call from a amex toll-free number. they just confirm all the places where the issue is happening and the next time you stop by it will register as 4x.
Dec 11, 18, 8:16 am
#1003
Join Date: May 2017
Location: USA
Posts: 207
I'm trying to max out grocery spend for 2018. Terms say the $25k cap is by calendar year, so as long as I get everything posted by Dec 31, it counts, right? For some reason, I felt like I saw some comments on Reddit about manipulating statement cut dates? Mine ends on the 9th of each month, so I'm just hoping the rest of this month's grocery "spend" isn't for nothing.
Dec 11, 18, 9:09 am
#1004
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 998
I'm trying to max out grocery spend for 2018. Terms say the $25k cap is by calendar year, so as long as I get everything posted by Dec 31, it counts, right? For some reason, I felt like I saw some comments on Reddit about manipulating statement cut dates? Mine ends on the 9th of each month, so I'm just hoping the rest of this month's grocery "spend" isn't for nothing.
I assume you're buying gift cards? Or something more "legit" ? (Stocking up on liquor, etc? :P)
Dec 11, 18, 9:16 am
#1005
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: SFO
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My daughter turns 13 on NYE. For her bday, I'm added her as an AU with a $200 limit on my rose card. Happy birthday sweetie, hope you like the card.
