Amex (USA) restricts bonus based on number of accounts opened/closed (June 2018)
#124
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,933
I'm getting the pop-up saying I am ineligible for a bonus on Hilton cards based on my past history with Amex. I've never held an Amex Hilton card, and my last application for an Amex card was Blue Business Plus more than a year ago. I've only attempted a Hilton Honors 75k app, and have not attempted an app for any other card product. I have three cards open currently: Old Blue Cash, Amex Everyday, and BlueBiz Plus. I've definitely leveraged some of the information I've learned from this forum to maximize my usage of these cards, but I haven't ever gone nuts like some (legendary) members have (My OBC is still open, after all).
Ie, they seem to be looking for things that "smell like" getting cards only for the signup bonus. You have to work to make it not seem like that was not your only intention for getting the card.
#125
Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: AS Gold, Hyatt Diamond, Starriott LTPP
Posts: 341
Any successful or unsuccessful bonus experiences from those who get the "warning" when applying, but receive targeted offer in the mail that seems to bypass the warning?
I did this recently and was approved (personal platinum). Previously held non-vanilla platinum products and many co-branded cards.
I did this recently and was approved (personal platinum). Previously held non-vanilla platinum products and many co-branded cards.
#126
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brooklyn
Programs: Delta Diamond, Bonvoy something good; sometimes other things too
Posts: 5,050
Does anyone know if the pop-up appears if you're ineligible for the sign-up bonus based on having had a card before (as opposed to because Amex thinks you've churned too much and similar reasons)?
I'm tempted by the new Gold card but did have the PRG a few years ago; I know after 7ish years the history of having had a card drops off, and that many years haven't passed for me, but I figure it could be worth trying to apply for the 50K bonus as long as the popup would warn me off if I'm ineligible, as I probably am. But I would hate to get the card with no bonus it if there's no warning popup for having had the card before.
I'm tempted by the new Gold card but did have the PRG a few years ago; I know after 7ish years the history of having had a card drops off, and that many years haven't passed for me, but I figure it could be worth trying to apply for the 50K bonus as long as the popup would warn me off if I'm ineligible, as I probably am. But I would hate to get the card with no bonus it if there's no warning popup for having had the card before.
#127
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Truth or Consequences, NM
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, UA Silver, Mobile Passport Unobtanium
Posts: 6,192
Does anyone know if the pop-up appears if you're ineligible for the sign-up bonus based on having had a card before (as opposed to because Amex thinks you've churned too much and similar reasons)?
I'm tempted by the new Gold card but did have the PRG a few years ago; I know after 7ish years the history of having had a card drops off, and that many years haven't passed for me, but I figure it could be worth trying to apply for the 50K bonus as long as the popup would warn me off if I'm ineligible, as I probably am. But I would hate to get the card with no bonus it if there's no warning popup for having had the card before.
I'm tempted by the new Gold card but did have the PRG a few years ago; I know after 7ish years the history of having had a card drops off, and that many years haven't passed for me, but I figure it could be worth trying to apply for the 50K bonus as long as the popup would warn me off if I'm ineligible, as I probably am. But I would hate to get the card with no bonus it if there's no warning popup for having had the card before.
Either way, the applicable pop-up should appear before you actually submit the application. And, although this feature is relatively new, I've yet to see an instance where someone applied, didn't get the pop-up, and was denied the bonus. Still early, granted.
#128
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 790
What does SUB stand for ?
Does anyone know if these new AMEX rules apply to an upgrade AMEX offer for upgrading a Hilton No annual fee Amex to Ascend ? Would you get the same warning ( stating you will not get the bonus) when you attempt to upgrade if they are not going to give out the points ?
Does anyone know if these new AMEX rules apply to an upgrade AMEX offer for upgrading a Hilton No annual fee Amex to Ascend ? Would you get the same warning ( stating you will not get the bonus) when you attempt to upgrade if they are not going to give out the points ?
I am in pop-up land with AMEX, but out of the blue got an upgrade offer to change my Ascend into an Aspire and get the 150,000 point bonus after spending 4K and I am very interested in doing the upgrade as long as I can get the bonus. Per what Mia said in response to your post, it does make sense that upgrade offers would be different than new applications.
#129
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,604
Did you do the upgrade and not have any issues?
I am in pop-up land with AMEX, but out of the blue got an upgrade offer to change my Ascend into an Aspire and get the 150,000 point bonus after spending 4K and I am very interested in doing the upgrade as long as I can get the bonus. Per what Mia said in response to your post, it does make sense that upgrade offers would be different than new applications.
I am in pop-up land with AMEX, but out of the blue got an upgrade offer to change my Ascend into an Aspire and get the 150,000 point bonus after spending 4K and I am very interested in doing the upgrade as long as I can get the bonus. Per what Mia said in response to your post, it does make sense that upgrade offers would be different than new applications.
MY dad upgraded NAF Hilton Amex to Ascend per an offer in his Amex acct and received the bonus
My wife upgraded her NAF Hilton to Ascend through an offer on her AMEX page and per Chat multiple CSR's have confirmed via chat that she will get 150K HH but her spend is not complete
I recently received a targeted DL 60k/$1K $50 DL credit offer, $50 DL credit posted and several CSR's have confirmed 60k per chat
#130
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 790
MY dad upgraded NAF Hilton Amex to Ascend per an offer in his Amex acct and received the bonus
My wife upgraded her NAF Hilton to Ascend through an offer on her AMEX page and per Chat multiple CSR's have confirmed via chat that she will get 150K HH but her spend is not complete
I recently received a targeted DL 60k/$1K $50 DL credit offer, $50 DL credit posted and several CSR's have confirmed 60k per chat
My wife upgraded her NAF Hilton to Ascend through an offer on her AMEX page and per Chat multiple CSR's have confirmed via chat that she will get 150K HH but her spend is not complete
I recently received a targeted DL 60k/$1K $50 DL credit offer, $50 DL credit posted and several CSR's have confirmed 60k per chat
#133
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,933
When you upgrade, you don't necessarily get a fee right away anyhow. You may (or may not) have time to get the signup bonus before your fee is assessed. That's because of doing an upgrade in the middle of the year cycle of your card that you upgraded.
#134
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 20
So I hold an Ameriprise plat and recently applied for 100k Plat offer and was approved (no-popups). Just received the card and had a quick chat with Amex rep to check the bonus offer attached to my card. Rep said I don't qualify for the offer since I already hold another plat. I tried explaining him that I applied because I was targeted for the offer and the rep proposed to open an investigation. Anyone got idea what are the chances I still get the bonus? I have got screenshots and all for my app.
#135
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 790
I believe their wording was that within 45 days I will be assessed a pro-rated fee. I'll keep you all posted on how this works out. 24 hours after upgrading, my account now shows the card as an Aspire and the account number has remained the same (no surprise, I know).