Does anyone own BOTH Chase Sapphire Reserve & Amex Platinum?
#77
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I think this is the crux of the matter. For corp spenders or high net worth individuals spending tens, if not hundreds, of thousands per month there's something to be said for simplicity. For others who are not charging comparable volume, it will be inherently easier to segregate spend on products far cheaper than AX charge cards.
Yes, one can make multiple payments to (re)clear up a CL. Yes, one can nitpick over the in's and the outs and squeeze a little more from the bank rebates. And if one has the time, will, and nothing better to do, more power to them. But speaking as someone who is on the heftier side of monthly spend, it's just not worth the time and hassle for me...but as they say YMMV.
I do not disagree but I also do not book Y nor WN. Again, YMMV.
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Yes, one can make multiple payments to (re)clear up a CL. Yes, one can nitpick over the in's and the outs and squeeze a little more from the bank rebates. And if one has the time, will, and nothing better to do, more power to them. But speaking as someone who is on the heftier side of monthly spend, it's just not worth the time and hassle for me...but as they say YMMV.
I do not disagree but I also do not book Y nor WN. Again, YMMV.
If you have not already done so, check out: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/premium-fare-deals-740/ Excellent resource.
And why would I buy J with Amex points vs Chase, or Altitude Reserve? Enlighten me please.
#78
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It seems the only big devaluation to SPG members is losing 4pm late check-out (now 2pm for the new gold). The linking legacy SPG gold to legacy Marriott gold for the free breakfast was a loophole while the programs were being merged.
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It's also 25% bonus points vs 50%, as well as SPG card devaluation (2x vs 3x for general spend). This is gonna be another cancel.
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I've yet to see a compelling reason where someone needs both the Platinum and the CSR. I don't know that it would hugely benefit you either. Sounds like you like the Uber, Hotel status, and Airline credit/cb. Is that $550+ worth of value to you? Also considering that the CSR would give you better insurance, as you stated, and bonus points in more categories. What part of the hotel statuses do you frequently use?
With CSR, I would lose 5x airfare and hotel status, it seems. Also would need to find another way to get Mrs. Lee DL club access - she travels enough that the $195 AU fee on Amex is worth it for DL/PP alone - to restore that I would need to add her as AU on the CSR and DL Reserve. I could leave her at the club entrance but that seems like a poor life choice.
Thanks all for helping me with the thought puzzle! With yesterday's news, perhaps I need to just wait to see if/how Amex adjusts their Plat card re: Spg. They might pull something out of their hat that makes that card more appealing.
#81
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Good points. I do use Uber and airline fee fully each year, so I really only need to recover $350 from other benefits (counting Mrs. Lee's AU card). Hotel status - free breakfast at Hilton and Marriott (for now) and late checkout (whether official or not, having status seems to make the front desk more lenient) mainly. The stray upgrade and bonus points are nice. I also get lots of value out of 5x airfare. Haven't had the opportunity to use the new IAP but we were going to explore it on our next trip. We have a Virtuoso agent who is pretty much always better than FHR.
With CSR, I would lose 5x airfare and hotel status, it seems. Also would need to find another way to get Mrs. Lee DL club access - she travels enough that the $195 AU fee on Amex is worth it for DL/PP alone - to restore that I would need to add her as AU on the CSR and DL Reserve. I could leave her at the club entrance but that seems like a poor life choice.
Thanks all for helping me with the thought puzzle! With yesterday's news, perhaps I need to just wait to see if/how Amex adjusts their Plat card re: Spg. They might pull something out of their hat that makes that card more appealing.
With CSR, I would lose 5x airfare and hotel status, it seems. Also would need to find another way to get Mrs. Lee DL club access - she travels enough that the $195 AU fee on Amex is worth it for DL/PP alone - to restore that I would need to add her as AU on the CSR and DL Reserve. I could leave her at the club entrance but that seems like a poor life choice.
Thanks all for helping me with the thought puzzle! With yesterday's news, perhaps I need to just wait to see if/how Amex adjusts their Plat card re: Spg. They might pull something out of their hat that makes that card more appealing.
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I've yet to see a compelling reason where someone needs both the Platinum and the CSR. I don't know that it would hugely benefit you either. Sounds like you like the Uber, Hotel status, and Airline credit/cb. Is that $550+ worth of value to you? Also considering that the CSR would give you better insurance, as you stated, and bonus points in more categories. What part of the hotel statuses do you frequently use?
Just with the easy things (Uber and airline credit), you're down to $150. Pretty big difference.
At a straight $550, many, many fewer of us would find value. But at $150? Lots of value.
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I've yet to see a compelling reason where someone needs both the Platinum and the CSR. I don't know that it would hugely benefit you either. Sounds like you like the Uber, Hotel status, and Airline credit/cb. Is that $550+ worth of value to you? Also considering that the CSR would give you better insurance, as you stated, and bonus points in more categories. What part of the hotel statuses do you frequently use?
#84
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The Marriot/SPG devaluation is basically going back to how things were before the merger when we didn't get free breakfast/lounge access at Marriot properties. I value the Platinum over the CSR due to Uber, hotel statuses, biogo wifi, and Delta lounges. Sure, I wish they'd add a dining MR bonus, but the only advantage the CSR has over the Platinum in my eyes is the 3x dining. PP is worthless because all those lounges are overcrowded and PP doesn't even have a huge footprint anywhere I fly. And I fly Delta a lot. If Amex ever lost Delta, then I'd cancel the Platinum and go back to the CSR
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But yes on only really needing to recover $150 after Uber and airline fee credits. Actually $130 if you count GE credit every 5 years.
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The Marriot/SPG devaluation is basically going back to how things were before the merger when we didn't get free breakfast/lounge access at Marriot properties. I value the Platinum over the CSR due to Uber, hotel statuses, biogo wifi, and Delta lounges. Sure, I wish they'd add a dining MR bonus, but the only advantage the CSR has over the Platinum in my eyes is the 3x dining. PP is worthless because all those lounges are overcrowded and PP doesn't even have a huge footprint anywhere I fly. And I fly Delta a lot. If Amex ever lost Delta, then I'd cancel the Platinum and go back to the CSR
CSR also gives 3x on travel, which is huge for me vs. 1x on Amex except for flights. And as a frequent IAD visitor on DL, PP is something I wouldn't want to do without.
#87
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To be fair, the quoted post was in reply to me, and I mention those specific things. I was also considering CSR and already hold DL Reserve, so together those would replace the lounge access the Plat provides.
But yes on only really needing to recover $150 after Uber and airline fee credits. Actually $130 if you count GE credit every 5 years.
But yes on only really needing to recover $150 after Uber and airline fee credits. Actually $130 if you count GE credit every 5 years.
#88
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I have both cards. To me, the CSR along with various Freedom and Ink cards for category bonus earning gets me a ton of value for my spending. And as long as the Ameriprise Amex Platinum exists, that card's benefits will always be well worth the cost to me.
#89
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Just the Everyday Card. So I guess I'll get another premium card when I need them?
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