"Premium could be Amex's big winner"
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"Premium could be Amex's big winner"
According to Business Insider (Premium could be Amex's big winner - Business Insider), Amex Platinum hit a new high for number of cardholders in Q4 2017, and "record spending among them".
Also interesting is the note that "Chase plans to cut about $200 million in costs from its premium card unit because of excessive costs". I don't have the CSR so I don't know what they might cut - I could see (and sort of hope as a Priority Pass member) that they start limiting the number of guests, but that's just a thought.
Also interesting is the note that "Chase plans to cut about $200 million in costs from its premium card unit because of excessive costs". I don't have the CSR so I don't know what they might cut - I could see (and sort of hope as a Priority Pass member) that they start limiting the number of guests, but that's just a thought.
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According to Business Insider (Premium could be Amex's big winner - Business Insider), Amex Platinum hit a new high for number of cardholders in Q4 2017, and "record spending among them".
Also interesting is the note that "Chase plans to cut about $200 million in costs from its premium card unit because of excessive costs". I don't have the CSR so I don't know what they might cut - I could see (and sort of hope as a Priority Pass member) that they start limiting the number of guests, but that's just a thought.
Also interesting is the note that "Chase plans to cut about $200 million in costs from its premium card unit because of excessive costs". I don't have the CSR so I don't know what they might cut - I could see (and sort of hope as a Priority Pass member) that they start limiting the number of guests, but that's just a thought.
As for AmEx, I'd still like for Platinum to have some day to day bonus categories. As is, the 5x on travel booked through airlines/AmEx Travel doesn't really encourage use of the card beyond plane tickets and hotel reservations. However, I suppose picking up some other MR-earning cards along with Plat might be acceptable to some.
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I could see the $300 travel credit becoming harder to redeem (e.g. reducing the number of merchant categories that will trigger it), though I don't know how many actually use all of it every year.
As for AmEx, I'd still like for Platinum to have some day to day bonus categories. As is, the 5x on travel booked through airlines/AmEx Travel doesn't really encourage use of the card beyond plane tickets and hotel reservations. However, I suppose picking up some other MR-earning cards along with Plat might be acceptable to some.
As for AmEx, I'd still like for Platinum to have some day to day bonus categories. As is, the 5x on travel booked through airlines/AmEx Travel doesn't really encourage use of the card beyond plane tickets and hotel reservations. However, I suppose picking up some other MR-earning cards along with Plat might be acceptable to some.
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Allow me to quote myself from AMEX Platinum vs Chase Sapphire Reserve
This pretty much explains how and why Chase lost it a big time.
FWIW - No one give a thing when you use CSR. But occasionally, someone may give a thing when you use AMEX Platinum.
Allow me to make it even more simple.
CSR is all about rewards. It is not a card that can get you a taste of luxury.
AMEX is all about benefits. It is a card that can get you a taste of luxury.
CSR is all about rewards. It is not a card that can get you a taste of luxury.
AMEX is all about benefits. It is a card that can get you a taste of luxury.
FWIW - No one give a thing when you use CSR. But occasionally, someone may give a thing when you use AMEX Platinum.
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My investment theology these days is to buy "wealth inequality" i.e. companies that serve either the poor or the rich, but not the middle, are going to outperform over the next decade or two (sadly). Not surprised credit card companies are targeted the super rich.
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According to Business Insider (Premium could be Amex's big winner - Business Insider), Amex Platinum hit a new high for number of cardholders in Q4 2017, and "record spending among them".
Also interesting is the note that "Chase plans to cut about $200 million in costs from its premium card unit because of excessive costs". I don't have the CSR so I don't know what they might cut - I could see (and sort of hope as a Priority Pass member) that they start limiting the number of guests, but that's just a thought.
Also interesting is the note that "Chase plans to cut about $200 million in costs from its premium card unit because of excessive costs". I don't have the CSR so I don't know what they might cut - I could see (and sort of hope as a Priority Pass member) that they start limiting the number of guests, but that's just a thought.
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I could see the $300 travel credit becoming harder to redeem (e.g. reducing the number of merchant categories that will trigger it), though I don't know how many actually use all of it every year.
As for AmEx, I'd still like for Platinum to have some day to day bonus categories. As is, the 5x on travel booked through airlines/AmEx Travel doesn't really encourage use of the card beyond plane tickets and hotel reservations. However, I suppose picking up some other MR-earning cards along with Plat might be acceptable to some.
As for AmEx, I'd still like for Platinum to have some day to day bonus categories. As is, the 5x on travel booked through airlines/AmEx Travel doesn't really encourage use of the card beyond plane tickets and hotel reservations. However, I suppose picking up some other MR-earning cards along with Plat might be acceptable to some.
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Did you see the quote at the top of the thread? Amex Platinum hit a new high for number of cardholders in Q4 2017, and "record spending among them". Moving daily spend to 1.5x would increase their cost by 50%. Why would they do that when they're already at a record high for cardholders and spend? I think they're already smarter than you think.
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Doing better than you have done before does not necessarily mean that there isn't room for further improvement.
Note that 1.25 points per dollar for general spending is already available on the Ameriprise version of Platinum:
Note that 1.25 points per dollar for general spending is already available on the Ameriprise version of Platinum:
Earn an additional 5,000 Membership Rewards® points for every $20,000 in eligible purchases on the Card, up to 30,000 additional points per year.
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I hear people sometimes give a thing when people pay with their metal CSR. I have one in the safe, but prefer to use the original plastic one, because I got tired hearing comments about it when I had the metal CSP.
I give a thing about the extra points I earn when paying with my CSR for 3X categories.
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Did you see the quote at the top of the thread? Amex Platinum hit a new high for number of cardholders in Q4 2017, and "record spending among them". Moving daily spend to 1.5x would increase their cost by 50%. Why would they do that when they're already at a record high for cardholders and spend? I think they're already smarter than you think.
Those of us that care about maximizing spend to this degree are a vast minority of cardholders.
#13
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Maybe I'm unusual, but I love the Uber credits and always make use of them every month! (most of the time, through Uber Eats!!!)
However, I would appreciate less crowding in the Centurion Lounges, so it might be nice if they did even more to limit guesting.
However, I would appreciate less crowding in the Centurion Lounges, so it might be nice if they did even more to limit guesting.
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I’d trade the uber eats credits for some more generous day to day spend bonuses, then I can clear out my wallet and just use one card.
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And I'd venture to guess many if not most Platinum card holders that don't hang out on FT just use the card regardless of the return on spending. One of the guys that's part of my weekly happy hour group always uses his Plat. He could be earning 3x on a CSR but he doesn't seem to have one or care. He probably doesn't know about or max the travel credit either. And he's probably a better representation of your average plat cardholder than anybody in this thread.
Those of us that care about maximizing spend to this degree are a vast minority of cardholders.
Those of us that care about maximizing spend to this degree are a vast minority of cardholders.