MR (USA) to Hilton now 1:2
Jan 8, 2018, 9:58 am
#2
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: Delta Gold, Hilton Diamond, SPG Gold, IHG Plat, AMEX Plat
Posts: 220
I saw the same thing this morning. Is that permanent? I don't remember any correspondence on that topic....
Jan 10, 2018, 10:15 pm
#4
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Lake Oswego, Oregon or Costa Alegre take your pick
Programs: AS MVPG,
Posts: 1,066
Exhibit A:
It is a good deal at TLV Hilton. 70k points per night now means 35k MR points. That equals 350 dollars of value. Rooms are 550 per night. 200 dollar savings. Seems reasonable to me. Nothing compared to the old points + $$ value but still works for us.
It is a good deal at TLV Hilton. 70k points per night now means 35k MR points. That equals 350 dollars of value. Rooms are 550 per night. 200 dollar savings. Seems reasonable to me. Nothing compared to the old points + $$ value but still works for us.
Jan 10, 2018, 10:28 pm
#5
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,875
Compared to airline miles that you can transfer MR to? That would be 1.6cpm, which isn't a good deal by any stretch of the imagination.
Jan 10, 2018, 11:12 pm
#6
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: EWR
Posts: 2,112
Just because it's not the greatest cpm doesn't mean it's not useful for someone else. There's always the endless debate about the "best" use of points, and cpm is just one of many metrics that can be used to measure utility.
Jan 10, 2018, 11:16 pm
#7
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: HHonors, TrueBlue, Delta SkyMiles, Hyatt Discoverist, Starwood Preferred Guest, American Airlines.
Posts: 2,035
So is American Express going to keep devaluing their points over time, or....?
The company should be focusing on how to improve their perks, not reduce them. They need to separate themselves from the rest of the pack to be successful since their acceptance isn't as good.
I agree with this analysis. Not everyone values the same partners the same way. UR's are of great value to most people, but other than Hyatt I don't have much use for them. If Syracuse NY had Southwest as an airline at Hancock airport, SW points would be pretty valuable to me, however. I don't see much use out of United, nor do I fly internationally.
The company should be focusing on how to improve their perks, not reduce them. They need to separate themselves from the rest of the pack to be successful since their acceptance isn't as good.
I agree with this analysis. Not everyone values the same partners the same way. UR's are of great value to most people, but other than Hyatt I don't have much use for them. If Syracuse NY had Southwest as an airline at Hancock airport, SW points would be pretty valuable to me, however. I don't see much use out of United, nor do I fly internationally.
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Jan 10, 2018, 11:22 pm
#8
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: EWR
Posts: 2,112
So is American Express going to keep devaluing their points over time, or....?
The company should be focusing on how to improve their perks, not reduce them. They need to separate themselves from the rest of the pack to be successful since their acceptance isn't as good.
The company should be focusing on how to improve their perks, not reduce them. They need to separate themselves from the rest of the pack to be successful since their acceptance isn't as good.
Jan 10, 2018, 11:23 pm
#9
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: HHonors, TrueBlue, Delta SkyMiles, Hyatt Discoverist, Starwood Preferred Guest, American Airlines.
Posts: 2,035
Jan 10, 2018, 11:28 pm
#11
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: HHonors, TrueBlue, Delta SkyMiles, Hyatt Discoverist, Starwood Preferred Guest, American Airlines.
Posts: 2,035
If Hilton Honors points are valued 0.6 cpp, then you're getting 1.8 cents per MR point, not a bad deal, but obviously not the greatest compared to what the "experts" can get with flights and all that. The value is certainly better than 1:1 Marriott.
Jan 11, 2018, 12:13 am
#12
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,875
Jan 12, 2018, 7:44 pm
#14
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: PSC
Programs: Hilton Diamond/IHG Platinum/DL Plutononium
Posts: 1,728
Few important things to keep in mind when looking at HH points is to be sure to include the taxes/fees/surcharges in the room rate. I recently got 1cpp from a hotel in Florida during peak season when factoring in the resort fees and the insane 12% tax they levvy down there.