AMEX Platinum vs Chase Sapphire Reserve
#151
Join Date: Nov 2013
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On paper Citi is the best choice because they extend the warranty by 24 months, but we have very little discussion. Try here:
Changes to Citi card insurance 11/23/14 and 5/15/2016.
Changes to Citi card insurance 11/23/14 and 5/15/2016.
#152
Join Date: Jan 2016
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@OP, if you have a Costco near you and like the idea of Citi for this 24-month warranty, consider becoming a Costco member for $60 and adding a no annual fee Citi "Anywhere" Visa card. It has the 24 month extended warranty that mia mentioned, no annual fee, trip insurance ($5000/trip/person), and tiered cash back (redeemable once per year at a Costco location). In fact my only complaint after a few years is that there is a foreign currency fee.
I use mine for price rewinds and extended warranties (and if there is no base warranty I use Amex). I've had a smooth ~$200 appliance warranty claim with Citi and dozens of (not always smooth) price rewind claims.
#153
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#154
Yes you can purchase gasoline outside of the US. The Costco store locator has a filter for gas stations if you want to do a search.
#155
Join Date: Jan 2016
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It's not just 4% on Costco gas. 4% at Mobil, Shell, etc. Up to $7k gas spend a year.
Gas from non-Costco warehouse clubs (Sam's, BJ's), convenience stores, superstores, non-automobile fuel, etc. is excluded.
Gas from non-Costco warehouse clubs (Sam's, BJ's), convenience stores, superstores, non-automobile fuel, etc. is excluded.
#156
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Understood, but your question was why would Citi tout rewards on gasoline purchases worldwide when there is a 3% foreign transaction fee. My answer is that (a) if the gasoline is purchased at Costco the 3% fee is waived, and (b) if you buy gasoline at another brand you are still 1% ahead. Why shouldn't they mention it?
#157
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Oh, I see. I didn't realize the FTF was waived at international Costcos. I thought it was no better there than a basic 1% no-FTF card.
So I do see the usefulness of international gas as a bonus category.
I guess if I went to a warehouse in Canada, though, I'd need to use a MC? I'm not sure what the situation in the UK is.
So I do see the usefulness of international gas as a bonus category.
I guess if I went to a warehouse in Canada, though, I'd need to use a MC? I'm not sure what the situation in the UK is.
#158
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Understood, but your question was why would Citi tout rewards on gasoline purchases worldwide when there is a 3% foreign transaction fee. My answer is that (a) if the gasoline is purchased at Costco the 3% fee is waived, and (b) if you buy gasoline at another brand you are still 1% ahead. Why shouldn't they mention it?
#159
Oh, I see. I didn't realize the FTF was waived at international Costcos. I thought it was no better there than a basic 1% no-FTF card.
So I do see the usefulness of international gas as a bonus category.
I guess if I went to a warehouse in Canada, though, I'd need to use a MC? I'm not sure what the situation in the UK is.
So I do see the usefulness of international gas as a bonus category.
I guess if I went to a warehouse in Canada, though, I'd need to use a MC? I'm not sure what the situation in the UK is.
#160
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When I was in Canada this past summer, I tried to use my Citi Costco Visa and was told only MasterCard was accepted. Lucky for me, I had my IHG MC on me which has no FTF. And apparently the UK Costcos only accept American Express, so good thing I have one of those as well. LOL
#161
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#162
Join Date: Jan 2017
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Comparing AMEX platinum and Chase Sapphire Reserve is basically comparing apples to oranges. AMEX platinum is has the best perks like hotel status, Fine hotel and resort collection, best airline lounge access, etc. Unfortunately AMEX platinum has very weak bonus categories aside from airfare booked directly from the airlines. Also AMEX travel insurance is woefully inadequate and downright embarrassing for a card with such a high annual fee.
CSR is the card that rewards when you actually charge things to it. The 3x Travel & Restaurant Category combined with the UR point system makes the CSR one of the most lucrative, if not the most lucrative travel cards out there. Having Hyatt as a transfer partner along with the Chase travel portal, makes the CSR vastly superior to the AMEX Platinum for hotel bookings. AMEX still has a slight edge though when it comes to airline transfer partners.
The fact that CSR only costs $450 a year and has a $300 travel credit which can be used for virtually anything makes it a more cost effective card than the AMEX platinum which costs $550 a year and comes with $200 worth of restrictive airline incidental credits and $200 worth of Uber credits over the course of the year. Some might argue that the AMEX platinum has AMEX offers which can save you a lot of money, but these offers are usually available on other AMEX cards you can get they don't have an annual fee.
i personally see value in having both cards and will continue to hold both for the foreseeable future.
CSR is the card that rewards when you actually charge things to it. The 3x Travel & Restaurant Category combined with the UR point system makes the CSR one of the most lucrative, if not the most lucrative travel cards out there. Having Hyatt as a transfer partner along with the Chase travel portal, makes the CSR vastly superior to the AMEX Platinum for hotel bookings. AMEX still has a slight edge though when it comes to airline transfer partners.
The fact that CSR only costs $450 a year and has a $300 travel credit which can be used for virtually anything makes it a more cost effective card than the AMEX platinum which costs $550 a year and comes with $200 worth of restrictive airline incidental credits and $200 worth of Uber credits over the course of the year. Some might argue that the AMEX platinum has AMEX offers which can save you a lot of money, but these offers are usually available on other AMEX cards you can get they don't have an annual fee.
i personally see value in having both cards and will continue to hold both for the foreseeable future.
#163
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 130
Comparing AMEX platinum and Chase Sapphire Reserve is basically comparing apples to oranges. AMEX platinum is has the best perks like hotel status, Fine hotel and resort collection, best airline lounge access, etc. Unfortunately AMEX platinum has very weak bonus categories aside from airfare booked directly from the airlines. Also AMEX travel insurance is woefully inadequate and downright embarrassing for a card with such a high annual fee.
CSR is the card that rewards when you actually charge things to it. The 3x Travel & Restaurant Category combined with the UR point system makes the CSR one of the most lucrative, if not the most lucrative travel cards out there. Having Hyatt as a transfer partner along with the Chase travel portal, makes the CSR vastly superior to the AMEX Platinum for hotel bookings. AMEX still has a slight edge though when it comes to airline transfer partners.
The fact that CSR only costs $450 a year and has a $300 travel credit which can be used for virtually anything makes it a more cost effective card than the AMEX platinum which costs $550 a year and comes with $200 worth of restrictive airline incidental credits and $200 worth of Uber credits over the course of the year. Some might argue that the AMEX platinum has AMEX offers which can save you a lot of money, but these offers are usually available on other AMEX cards you can get they don't have an annual fee.
i personally see value in having both cards and will continue to hold both for the foreseeable future.
CSR is the card that rewards when you actually charge things to it. The 3x Travel & Restaurant Category combined with the UR point system makes the CSR one of the most lucrative, if not the most lucrative travel cards out there. Having Hyatt as a transfer partner along with the Chase travel portal, makes the CSR vastly superior to the AMEX Platinum for hotel bookings. AMEX still has a slight edge though when it comes to airline transfer partners.
The fact that CSR only costs $450 a year and has a $300 travel credit which can be used for virtually anything makes it a more cost effective card than the AMEX platinum which costs $550 a year and comes with $200 worth of restrictive airline incidental credits and $200 worth of Uber credits over the course of the year. Some might argue that the AMEX platinum has AMEX offers which can save you a lot of money, but these offers are usually available on other AMEX cards you can get they don't have an annual fee.
i personally see value in having both cards and will continue to hold both for the foreseeable future.
The points for gift cards (my primary previous use) had been devalued and gift card options reduced (I saw CSR had a wide range of cards available at the 'old' Amex levels (5,000 pts. 50 dollars).
Today I only use my Platinum for gas purchases and would not keep it if I had to pay 100 bucks for it.
In my first year I have used what I feel are very valuable transfers to United and Hyatt and the 100k bonus certainly was a great incentive.
I certainly understand that one size does not always fit all and don't discount your needs, but I have to think for the vast majority of users the CSR is a superior card based on every measure. Amex had their long days (decades) in the sun as the premium business traveler card but they have been slow to evolve . JMHO
#164
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hawai'i Nei
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Comparing AMEX platinum and Chase Sapphire Reserve is basically comparing apples to oranges. AMEX platinum is has the best perks like hotel status, Fine hotel and resort collection, best airline lounge access, etc. Unfortunately AMEX platinum has very weak bonus categories aside from airfare booked directly from the airlines. Also AMEX travel insurance is woefully inadequate and downright embarrassing for a card with such a high annual fee.
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i personally see value in having both cards and will continue to hold both for the foreseeable future.
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i personally see value in having both cards and will continue to hold both for the foreseeable future.
#165
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 44
It is still dissapointing that AMEX platinum has non existent travel insurance. Hurricane Irma actually damaged the resort I was originally going to stay and almost ruined our trip. Thankfully we were able to relocate to another resort. With CSR we could have gotten an airfare refund, with AMEX platinum we were almost SOL.