Oct 3, 2018, 11:48 pm
Last edit by: 747FC
In June 2017, the American Express International Airline Program changed to a discount program, rather than "buy one get one free".
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/t...ram/index.html
To research and book, you can
1) Call Platinum Travel Services (1-800-525-3355) or Business Platinum Travel Services (1-800-553-9497). $39 booking and change fees apply
2) As of October 18, 2018, customers can use Live Chat to receive quotes. Log into your account at www.americanexpress.com/travel
3) As of May 2019, customers can log into www.amextravel.com and search and book some IAP fares. Not all carriers participate in online bookings, and not all fares appear online. (Relevant FlyerTalk thread 1 Relevant Thread 2)
The program is available on International First, Business and Premium Economy Class tickets booked through American Express Travel, on both refundable and non-refundable fares.
Good for purchases of 1 to 8 tickets on participating airlines.
Use Pay with Points for all or part of you fares, plus you still get miles from the airline.
Subject to $39 servicing fee per ticket for Platinum card members when calling.
"Travel must originate in and return to U.S. gateway (may exclude certain overseas territories) and select Canadian gateways. One-way travel permitted on some airlines where routing originates in U.S. or select Canadian Gateways." Known to include YVR, YYZ.
It was suggested that a Wikipost be written to try and collect past and example discounts, as the fares themselves are unpublished. The discounts vary, sometimes widely, based on availability, fares, and sales. I've broken it down into ranges, and sorted by the number of reports. I also combined AF/KL/DL as they have joint ventures TATL so it's hard to say from all posts which metal members were reporting. My calculations for discount ranges do not intentionally include the $39 booking fee.
Delta / Air France / KLM
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/t...ram/index.html
To research and book, you can
1) Call Platinum Travel Services (1-800-525-3355) or Business Platinum Travel Services (1-800-553-9497). $39 booking and change fees apply
2) As of October 18, 2018, customers can use Live Chat to receive quotes. Log into your account at www.americanexpress.com/travel
3) As of May 2019, customers can log into www.amextravel.com and search and book some IAP fares. Not all carriers participate in online bookings, and not all fares appear online. (Relevant FlyerTalk thread 1 Relevant Thread 2)
The program is available on International First, Business and Premium Economy Class tickets booked through American Express Travel, on both refundable and non-refundable fares.
Good for purchases of 1 to 8 tickets on participating airlines.
Use Pay with Points for all or part of you fares, plus you still get miles from the airline.
Subject to $39 servicing fee per ticket for Platinum card members when calling.
"Travel must originate in and return to U.S. gateway (may exclude certain overseas territories) and select Canadian gateways. One-way travel permitted on some airlines where routing originates in U.S. or select Canadian Gateways." Known to include YVR, YYZ.
It was suggested that a Wikipost be written to try and collect past and example discounts, as the fares themselves are unpublished. The discounts vary, sometimes widely, based on availability, fares, and sales. I've broken it down into ranges, and sorted by the number of reports. I also combined AF/KL/DL as they have joint ventures TATL so it's hard to say from all posts which metal members were reporting. My calculations for discount ranges do not intentionally include the $39 booking fee.
Delta / Air France / KLM
- Fares < 10 %: 2
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 16
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28427217-post5.html
- (First) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28455196-post22.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28552399-post75.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28557136-post80.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28681679-post119.html
- (First) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28912654-post150.html
- (PE) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29314333-post216.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29314692-post217.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29321044-post230.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29485431-post250.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30218019-post300.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30337457-post316.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30647796-post331.html
- (First) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31053636-post394.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31089400-post399.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32079945-post586.html
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 5
- Fares 21%+: 3
- Fares < 10%: 1
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 6
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28581934-post91.html
- (PE) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28658835-post109.html
- (First) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28844429-post141.html
- (PE) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29315142-post218.html
- (PE) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29836516-post265.html
- (PE) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28758330-post129.html
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 1
- Fares < 10%: 4
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 1
- Fares 21%+: 1
- Note: Prices include seat selection per this thread
- Fares <= 10%: 4
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 1
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 1
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 1
- Fares <= 10%: 1
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 1
- Fares >= 35%: 1
- Fares 21%+: 2
- Fares < 10%: 1
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 1
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 1
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 1
USA International Airline Program (IAP) relaunched as discount benefit (2017).
Apr 9, 2019, 9:39 am
#376
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Mem
Programs: Delta GM, Amex Reserve, Amex Plat, JP Morgan Palladium
Posts: 984
I have a couple of questions
1) The insider fares found on the website are for AA only correct? And that is a different program?
2) I have a Personal Platinum and also I also a have a Business Plat. Do I Have to charge the fare on the Business Platinum to get the 35% pay with points rebate?
1) The insider fares found on the website are for AA only correct? And that is a different program?
2) I have a Personal Platinum and also I also a have a Business Plat. Do I Have to charge the fare on the Business Platinum to get the 35% pay with points rebate?
Apr 9, 2019, 10:39 am
#377
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Upper Sternistan
Posts: 10,037
I have a couple of questions
1) The insider fares found on the website are for AA only correct? And that is a different program?
2) I have a Personal Platinum and also I also a have a Business Plat. Do I Have to charge the fare on the Business Platinum to get the 35% pay with points rebate?
1) The insider fares found on the website are for AA only correct? And that is a different program?
2) I have a Personal Platinum and also I also a have a Business Plat. Do I Have to charge the fare on the Business Platinum to get the 35% pay with points rebate?
Apr 9, 2019, 10:41 am
#378
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 6,545
Insider Fares are on AA, AS, and DL when using pay with points in full at AMEXTravel.com.
AMEX Plat Travel agents can also sell AA Insider Fares on the phone for cash with a $39 booking fee per person.
Useful if short on points.
Unsure if same applies to AS, DL Insider Fares.
AA Insider Fares discount close to 10%. AS, DL about half that.
No reason now to put charge on personal plat instead of business plat when using pay with points.
There are no points earned for a full pay with points transaction now.
Never heard of a denial of 35% rebate if using personal plat.
AMEX Plat Travel agents can also sell AA Insider Fares on the phone for cash with a $39 booking fee per person.
Useful if short on points.
Unsure if same applies to AS, DL Insider Fares.
AA Insider Fares discount close to 10%. AS, DL about half that.
No reason now to put charge on personal plat instead of business plat when using pay with points.
There are no points earned for a full pay with points transaction now.
Never heard of a denial of 35% rebate if using personal plat.
Apr 9, 2019, 11:12 am
#380
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Location: Miami, Mpls & London
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Posts: 48,954
Apr 9, 2019, 12:32 pm
#382
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 6,545
1. Login to your AMEX Plat card and price your desired ticket using the AMEXTravel.com booking site.
Insider Fares will be shown (if you have sufficient points to cover).
2. If you are traveling internationally, call or chat to AMEX Platinum Travel.
Ask them for the lowest price including IAP.
book whichever is better.
Insider Fares will be shown (if you have sufficient points to cover).
2. If you are traveling internationally, call or chat to AMEX Platinum Travel.
Ask them for the lowest price including IAP.
book whichever is better.
Apr 10, 2019, 10:19 am
#385
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I am looking to book 4 OneWorld RTW tickets in Biz through AA. Is there any way to do this through AMEX, shaving 10% off that bill would be substantial. It's obviously a very complicated itinerary, so i'm not sure how that would work. Anyone tried to book RTW tickets through the Plat desk?
Apr 10, 2019, 10:22 am
#386
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AA is does not participate in IAP, but American Express seems to have a separate deal with them:
Booking AA via AMEX for less than aa.com?
Booking AA via AMEX for less than aa.com?
Apr 10, 2019, 4:00 pm
#387
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Just returned from a roundtrip IAD-LHR-JNB in upper class Virgin Atlantic. Z class cost was about $4300, Platinum Travel Service Cost was about $3800 plus the $39 booking fee.
Apr 11, 2019, 10:47 am
#389
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 600
The Amex booking site does not show the discounted IAP fares. You need to call Amex Platinum Travel and speak to rep to price the IAP fares.