Oct 3, 2018, 11:48 pm
Last edit by: 747FC
In June 2017, the American Express International Airline Program changed to a discount program, rather than "buy one get one free".
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/t...ram/index.html
To research and book, you can
1) Call Platinum Travel Services (1-800-525-3355) or Business Platinum Travel Services (1-800-553-9497). $39 booking and change fees apply
2) As of October 18, 2018, customers can use Live Chat to receive quotes. Log into your account at www.americanexpress.com/travel
3) As of May 2019, customers can log into www.amextravel.com and search and book some IAP fares. Not all carriers participate in online bookings, and not all fares appear online. (Relevant FlyerTalk thread 1 Relevant Thread 2)
The program is available on International First, Business and Premium Economy Class tickets booked through American Express Travel, on both refundable and non-refundable fares.
Good for purchases of 1 to 8 tickets on participating airlines.
Use Pay with Points for all or part of you fares, plus you still get miles from the airline.
Subject to $39 servicing fee per ticket for Platinum card members when calling.
"Travel must originate in and return to U.S. gateway (may exclude certain overseas territories) and select Canadian gateways. One-way travel permitted on some airlines where routing originates in U.S. or select Canadian Gateways." Known to include YVR, YYZ.
It was suggested that a Wikipost be written to try and collect past and example discounts, as the fares themselves are unpublished. The discounts vary, sometimes widely, based on availability, fares, and sales. I've broken it down into ranges, and sorted by the number of reports. I also combined AF/KL/DL as they have joint ventures TATL so it's hard to say from all posts which metal members were reporting. My calculations for discount ranges do not intentionally include the $39 booking fee.
Delta / Air France / KLM
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/t...ram/index.html
To research and book, you can
1) Call Platinum Travel Services (1-800-525-3355) or Business Platinum Travel Services (1-800-553-9497). $39 booking and change fees apply
2) As of October 18, 2018, customers can use Live Chat to receive quotes. Log into your account at www.americanexpress.com/travel
3) As of May 2019, customers can log into www.amextravel.com and search and book some IAP fares. Not all carriers participate in online bookings, and not all fares appear online. (Relevant FlyerTalk thread 1 Relevant Thread 2)
The program is available on International First, Business and Premium Economy Class tickets booked through American Express Travel, on both refundable and non-refundable fares.
Good for purchases of 1 to 8 tickets on participating airlines.
Use Pay with Points for all or part of you fares, plus you still get miles from the airline.
Subject to $39 servicing fee per ticket for Platinum card members when calling.
"Travel must originate in and return to U.S. gateway (may exclude certain overseas territories) and select Canadian gateways. One-way travel permitted on some airlines where routing originates in U.S. or select Canadian Gateways." Known to include YVR, YYZ.
It was suggested that a Wikipost be written to try and collect past and example discounts, as the fares themselves are unpublished. The discounts vary, sometimes widely, based on availability, fares, and sales. I've broken it down into ranges, and sorted by the number of reports. I also combined AF/KL/DL as they have joint ventures TATL so it's hard to say from all posts which metal members were reporting. My calculations for discount ranges do not intentionally include the $39 booking fee.
Delta / Air France / KLM
- Fares < 10 %: 2
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 16
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28427217-post5.html
- (First) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28455196-post22.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28552399-post75.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28557136-post80.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28681679-post119.html
- (First) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28912654-post150.html
- (PE) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29314333-post216.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29314692-post217.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29321044-post230.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29485431-post250.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30218019-post300.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30337457-post316.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30647796-post331.html
- (First) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31053636-post394.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31089400-post399.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32079945-post586.html
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 5
- Fares 21%+: 3
- Fares < 10%: 1
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 6
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28581934-post91.html
- (PE) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28658835-post109.html
- (First) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28844429-post141.html
- (PE) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29315142-post218.html
- (PE) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29836516-post265.html
- (PE) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28758330-post129.html
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 1
- Fares < 10%: 4
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 1
- Fares 21%+: 1
- Note: Prices include seat selection per this thread
- Fares <= 10%: 4
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 1
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 1
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 1
- Fares <= 10%: 1
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 1
- Fares >= 35%: 1
- Fares 21%+: 2
- Fares < 10%: 1
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 1
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 1
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 1
USA International Airline Program (IAP) relaunched as discount benefit (2017).
Jan 20, 2019, 10:28 am
#346
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 6,545
login to amex and go to your plat card home.
then click to travel.
then, search for lax-jfk in j a few weeks out to see inside fares on the airlines i mentioned (for instance)
you’ll only see the insider fares if you have sufficient points to cover
then click to travel.
then, search for lax-jfk in j a few weeks out to see inside fares on the airlines i mentioned (for instance)
you’ll only see the insider fares if you have sufficient points to cover
Jan 20, 2019, 10:38 am
#347
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 16,871
Those insider fares are only available if booking with points?
Feb 4, 2019, 6:34 pm
#350
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Seattle
Programs: AAdvantage Plat+, FoundersCard, Amex Plat, TR Diamond, Marriott Gold, Wyndham Dia, HH Gold, Hertz 5*
Posts: 785
Just got a Chat quote for a Premium Economy R/T SEA-BCN... BA.com shows $1155 - Amex rep offered $1079 (plus the $39), so a pretty sad discount but the service was quick and clear and relatively fast. I have a Chase BA VISA that gives 10% so I won't be using Amex this time, but I'll always check again when I'm booking premium seats.
Last edited by huge; Feb 4, 2019 at 6:37 pm Reason: clarifying
Feb 4, 2019, 7:43 pm
#351
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Lake Oswego, Oregon or Costa Alegre take your pick
Programs: AS MVPG,
Posts: 1,066
If flying British Airways Plat IAP is worthwhile
I found the agent fairly knowledgeable but I needed to guide them through exactly what I wanted. It is a complex trip. They listened and found a decent price. The most important thing of value to me was the ability of the TA to book seats without charge. That service alone saved us about $570 dollars plus or minus on the trip. They charged the $39 x 2. It was also useful to use some MR points to bring down the price. We also got 5x the points for the cost of the trip.
Overall experience excellent. I will use them again.
Overall experience excellent. I will use them again.
Mar 2, 2019, 9:23 am
#353
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Miami, Mpls & London
Programs: AA & Marriott Perpetual Platinum; DL & HH Gold
Posts: 48,954
Mar 2, 2019, 9:39 am
#354
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 16,871
Mar 16, 2019, 6:52 am
#355
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: IAH
Posts: 207
Request
Hi,
i have a request if it is even possible if someone would be able to check pricing on specific iternary iah -blr on Qatar airways from July 17- aug7 business class as Qatar website is quoting 3246$ so wanted to see how much discount I would get through iap and then based on that I can then apply for Amex platinum card .
Thanks
i have a request if it is even possible if someone would be able to check pricing on specific iternary iah -blr on Qatar airways from July 17- aug7 business class as Qatar website is quoting 3246$ so wanted to see how much discount I would get through iap and then based on that I can then apply for Amex platinum card .
Thanks
Mar 22, 2019, 7:22 am
#356
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 16,871
Saved a bit over $1500 total on three business class tickets on AA to Europe and about $200 on a Hertz rental.
As before, searched for the exact flights we wanted and then called Amex. Other than them not saving my details in my profile from a previous booking and having to add two new ones it was a pain free process.
Paid for about half with points.
As before, searched for the exact flights we wanted and then called Amex. Other than them not saving my details in my profile from a previous booking and having to add two new ones it was a pain free process.
Paid for about half with points.
Mar 22, 2019, 10:42 am
#357
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Just off the Main Line
Programs: AA Lifetime PLT 2MM, DL Lifetime GM 2MM, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium Elite, HH Diamond, IHG Amb Diamond
Posts: 881
Saved a bit over $1500 total on three business class tickets on AA to Europe and about $200 on a Hertz rental.
As before, searched for the exact flights we wanted and then called Amex. Other than them not saving my details in my profile from a previous booking and having to add two new ones it was a pain free process.
Paid for about half with points.
As before, searched for the exact flights we wanted and then called Amex. Other than them not saving my details in my profile from a previous booking and having to add two new ones it was a pain free process.
Paid for about half with points.
Mar 22, 2019, 11:18 am
#358
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hawai'i Nei
Programs: Au: UA, Marriott, Hilton; GE
Posts: 7,139
Called IAP to inquire about a one-way HNL-CTS, and gave them three itineraries. They were able to offer a 12% discount in J on JL. This price reduction on two tickets would have more than of offset the annual card fee on my Plat.
They were unable to offer any price differential on two NH itineraries.
They were unable to offer any price differential on two NH itineraries.
Mar 22, 2019, 12:40 pm
#359
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Could you tell me which number you used? And any magic words? I went through this recently and it was very painful, seemed to take five minutes to get a price for one specific date and routing, then would start all over again if I wanted something different. They seemed to be unable to just provide the lowest fare for a given date/routing, said they had to go through them all. Very disappointing.
It's only the 2nd time I've used it and instead of just wanting the lowest price I also want the routing / time of my choice which in this case was non stop. So I tell them up front which flight / dates I wanted and they found it pretty fast. When I saw that they were about $500 less than AA.com for each ticket I just booked it.