kyleay

I'm debating the same thing (I was able to get 30k to show up with VPN / Incognito). 50k sure would be nice, but considering the usual offer is 15k, it seems 50k may be hard to actually get?

Some people talk about getting the offers on the grey market - but I have no idea what that means...?

--Kyle

mia

It means that someone who has received a targeted offer which she will not use offers to sell it someone else who has not yet been targeted. Note that such offers cannot be offered or sold on Flyertalk.

jasmians

All MR points equal? Means points earned with Everyday card vs. platinum card are the same value? Do I need to have one Platinum or Gold card to transfer points to Airlines? I want to close my platinum and gold cards due to AF and get this everyday card. Will all my accumulated points still be able to transfer to any airline when I need it in future?

bodiddely

Yes, the Everyday cards earn the same MR points as the Platinum and Gold cards and can be transferred to airline partners. When closing your Plat & Gold cards, make sure you have at least one other MR-earning card (such as the Everyday or Everyday Preferred) and points earned on your Plat/Gold will remain in your MR account.

mia

Yes. See early posts in the primary thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...day-cards.html

sdsearch

No. Not all MR points are equal if they go by slightly different names (Membership Rewards Options, Membership Rewards Express, etc).

No, it doesn't mean that. There are way more Amex cards with some kind of MR than just Everyday and Platinum and Gold. If you still have a Blue, it is not the same value.

Specifically for Everyday and Platinum and Gold, they are the same value.

No, Everyday is enough.

Not in that order! Get the Everyday card first, and only then close (the last of) those other cards. You don't want to have a period where you have no Membership Rewards card and lose your existing MR points.

That requires predicting the future.

IIRC, many many years ago there used to be another no-AF card that allowed transferring to airlines for a short while, but then Membership Rewards Options was created, and that ended.

So all we can say is that Everyday has no AF and allows transferring today. Whether Amex will keep it that way "forever" this time, I don't think anyone can promise. (Especially since the competition hasn't followed: You still need a card with AF to transfer Chase Ultimate Rewards points, and you still need a card with AF to transfer Citi Thank You points.)

OTOH, I'm pretty sure if Amex ever decides to change the transferability of the no-AF Everyday card, there would be some notice given, and you'd have enough time to adapt.

exarkun

Finally got the 30k EDP offer to show up. Applied and approved.

zer0k1

Yup visiting via incognito will usually pull it up, and the other trick

exarkun

i literally tried hundreds of times.

staticx813

the Amex EveryDay Preferred Credit Card is coming up in chrome incognito with 30k offer after 2k spend. offer came up first try in chrome incog.

https://www.americanexpress.com/us/c...yday-preferred

tonykline1947

you may want to check your math. when you count the supermarket bonus, AF, monthly bonus points, min spend to get the bonus, and hypothetical 2% cashback - ED earns MR points at 0.45 cpp (cent per point), and EDP at 0.51 cpp. i.e. ED is the one to keep going forward after bonus is collected. In fact, EDP is "the most expensive" card from the sextet of amex plat (with 100K bonus), gold, green, PRG, ED and EDP.

kyleay

Just curious. Did you do the math on that or have a link to share? I'm not disagreeing with it - I'd just like to see to understand it better. I personally spend a lot on groceries (I cook most meals and eat healthy, which means high grocery expense). But having said that, I think the ED may be better for me long term (and I really don't like annual fees).

I have the EDP, but I'm not sure how I'd go about getting the ED. Would I have to cancel the EDP first? Or are people able to get both?

I imagine I could downgrade? But then I'm missing out on the signup bonus points opportunity. Thanks,
--Kyle

tonykline1947

this is my math. EDP becomes better card after 8-9 years or so

dukerau

You're only looking at the cost per point on grocery spend. This ignores that {1} EDP is superior at gas (3x) and non-bonused spend (1.5x) and {2} though the cumulative cost per point in your analysis is higher for a while, you're still earning almost twice as many MR with the EDP.

kyleay

I was going to state that as well. And that non-bonus purchases still will go up as well, right? So a purchase at a clothing store, for example, is at 1.5X instead of 1X if you meet the 30 charges in a month.

But looking at the grocery part alone, this is how I figure it (granted, more simplistic):
*If* I maxed out the grocery spend at $6,000 on either card, using the 20% and 50% bonuses and value the points at a relatively low 1.5 cents each (typically valued at ~1 cents each, right?):
ED: 2X * 1.2 = 2.4X * $6,000 = 14,400 points * $0.015 = $216.
EDP: 3X * 1.5 = 4.5X * $6,000 = 27,000 points * $0.015 = $405.
So on groceries ALONE, I earned $189 more with the EDP. Subtract the $95 annual fee, and I earned $94 more for having the EDP.

And that's not including the gas bonus or .5X bonus on all other purchases. If I put just $5,000 in non-bonus expenses on the card, that's 2,500 extra points over a 1X card; another ~$40.

At least, that's how I look at it. Thanks,
--Kyle

Note: The question is whether I'd actually spend $6k in groceries, always get the 30 purchases for the bonus value, and if I'd actually use the card that much in a year if I'm chasing other credit card bonuses.