Jun 16, 2015, 4:43 pm
Last edit by: pseudoswede
Amex Product Conversion Options
Call The Number On Back Of The Card
PERSONAL
CHARGE
Green, Gold, Platinum <--> Green, Gold, Platinum
CREDIT
Blue Cash Preferred <--> Blue Cash Everyday
Delta (G,P,R) --> Delta (G,P,R), Hilton (HHonors, Surpass), Starwood
Starwood <--> None (as of 7/3/2018)
BUSINESS/OPEN
CHARGE
Green, Gold, Platinum <--> Green, Gold, Platinum
CREDIT
Delta (G,P,R) --> Simply Cash
Call The Number On Back Of The Card
PERSONAL
CHARGE
Green, Gold, Platinum <--> Green, Gold, Platinum
CREDIT
Blue Cash Preferred <--> Blue Cash Everyday
Delta (G,P,R) --> Delta (G,P,R), Hilton (HHonors, Surpass), Starwood
Starwood <--> None (as of 7/3/2018)
BUSINESS/OPEN
CHARGE
Green, Gold, Platinum <--> Green, Gold, Platinum
CREDIT
Delta (G,P,R) --> Simply Cash
USA card product conversions...
Aug 29, 2015, 2:33 pm
#36
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: HKG • Ex SFO, NYC
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP; Marriott Amb; Hyatt Globalist; Shangri-la Diamond; IHG SpireAmb; Hilton D; Accor G
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Amex Blue Sky: UA TravelBank liquidation + EveryDay Product Change
Hi there,
For a few years, I had the Amex Blue Sky, which I thought was good because it returned 1.33% in the form of travel redemptions. I've gotten decent value out of that; but I now have better options for spending: (Amex PRG + Plat; CSP). It's a no-fee card and one of my longest running accounts, so I don't want to lose it. I'm thinking about trying to product change it to a card that ears MR. I think the no-fee EveryDay card is a good option. Few questions:
1) With the 20% bonus and no fee, it seems like a great card to put my no-category every day spend (e.g. online purchases), and earn 2.16c per dollar (if valuing MR at 1.8). Right?
2) If I do this, I'm going to be spending essentially zero on my Plat. Is there any downside to this?
3) Will Amex allow the PC?
4) The card will keep the same number, and will be the same account on my credit report, right?
5) I have about 8k blue sky points to liquidate. I'm thinking that I'll just buy a UA travel certificate through the gift registry, and apply 7500 points towards that purchase. Then, I'll lose the remaining 500 or so points. Is this a good strategy?
For a few years, I had the Amex Blue Sky, which I thought was good because it returned 1.33% in the form of travel redemptions. I've gotten decent value out of that; but I now have better options for spending: (Amex PRG + Plat; CSP). It's a no-fee card and one of my longest running accounts, so I don't want to lose it. I'm thinking about trying to product change it to a card that ears MR. I think the no-fee EveryDay card is a good option. Few questions:
1) With the 20% bonus and no fee, it seems like a great card to put my no-category every day spend (e.g. online purchases), and earn 2.16c per dollar (if valuing MR at 1.8). Right?
2) If I do this, I'm going to be spending essentially zero on my Plat. Is there any downside to this?
3) Will Amex allow the PC?
4) The card will keep the same number, and will be the same account on my credit report, right?
5) I have about 8k blue sky points to liquidate. I'm thinking that I'll just buy a UA travel certificate through the gift registry, and apply 7500 points towards that purchase. Then, I'll lose the remaining 500 or so points. Is this a good strategy?
Aug 29, 2015, 2:42 pm
#37
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I think you will need to ask, because these days they have a small menu of change options for each card, as discussed here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...nversions.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...nversions.html
Aug 30, 2015, 11:58 am
#38
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: HKG • Ex SFO, NYC
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP; Marriott Amb; Hyatt Globalist; Shangri-la Diamond; IHG SpireAmb; Hilton D; Accor G
Posts: 3,319
Thanks, this might prove trickier than I'd imagined. I'll give it a shot tomorrow.
I'll try using the airline gift registry option to liquidate the points on the card. Worst case scenario, I end up depositing $100 towards my next UA purchase.
What do you all think of the EveryDay card in order to earn more than the base 1x points on non-categorized purchases (e.g. online, etc)
I'll try using the airline gift registry option to liquidate the points on the card. Worst case scenario, I end up depositing $100 towards my next UA purchase.
What do you all think of the EveryDay card in order to earn more than the base 1x points on non-categorized purchases (e.g. online, etc)
Aug 31, 2015, 11:55 am
#39
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 69
My 1 yr on Delta gold is about to come up and I don't want the AF but I do want to product change to keep the AAoA since it's back dated to 2008. So if I were to switch to SPG, would I obtain the sign up bonus as well? If not, then it seems like a waste for me to go to SPG and lose the opportunity for a bonus for a lifetime. If that's the case, then it's probably nest to go to the Hilton card with no AF. Thoughts?
This might be some good information to add to the Wiki.
This might be some good information to add to the Wiki.
Sep 2, 2015, 1:31 pm
#40
Join Date: May 2004
Location: DCA ZWU
Programs: AGR WOH
Posts: 1,785
Tried to convert a Blue Cash Everyday to Everyday or Blue (to then switch to Everyday)... no dice. Blue Cash Everyday and Blue Cash Preferred can switch back and forth.
No. Sign-up bonuses are only for signing up for new accounts, not for conversions. They already have you as a customer, so why give you an incentive to remain a customer?
No. Sign-up bonuses are only for signing up for new accounts, not for conversions. They already have you as a customer, so why give you an incentive to remain a customer?
Sep 2, 2015, 6:47 pm
#42
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 69
Tried to convert a Blue Cash Everyday to Everyday or Blue (to then switch to Everyday)... no dice. Blue Cash Everyday and Blue Cash Preferred can switch back and forth.
No. Sign-up bonuses are only for signing up for new accounts, not for conversions. They already have you as a customer, so why give you an incentive to remain a customer?
No. Sign-up bonuses are only for signing up for new accounts, not for conversions. They already have you as a customer, so why give you an incentive to remain a customer?
So my best bet would be to go for the Hilton no fee.
Sep 18, 2015, 2:42 pm
#43
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: HKG • Ex SFO, NYC
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP; Marriott Amb; Hyatt Globalist; Shangri-la Diamond; IHG SpireAmb; Hilton D; Accor G
Posts: 3,319
Amex Product Change: Blue Sky -> Blue Sky Preferred
I'm on a chat with an Amex CSR right now and was inquiring about changing my Blue Sky into anything else (e.g. Everyday). I was told I can only change within the Blue Sky product family, but I can upgrade to the Blue Sky Preferred.
The card earns 1x on everything, 2x on hotels, car rentals, and US restaurant. (Similar to the CSP). Points are worth exactly 1.33c/point since they redeem 7500/$100.
The interesting bit is: the card has a $75 fee, but a $100 yearly airline incidental credit (like the gold / platinum). Presumably that can be liquidated using the Gift Registry on UA or MPX. So essentially, the card has a net negative cost.
Thinking about doing the change, because why not.
The card earns 1x on everything, 2x on hotels, car rentals, and US restaurant. (Similar to the CSP). Points are worth exactly 1.33c/point since they redeem 7500/$100.
The interesting bit is: the card has a $75 fee, but a $100 yearly airline incidental credit (like the gold / platinum). Presumably that can be liquidated using the Gift Registry on UA or MPX. So essentially, the card has a net negative cost.
Thinking about doing the change, because why not.
Sep 18, 2015, 2:53 pm
#44
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: NY
Posts: 45
I'm on a chat with an Amex CSR right now and was inquiring about changing my Blue Sky into anything else (e.g. Everyday). I was told I can only change within the Blue Sky product family, but I can upgrade to the Blue Sky Preferred.
The card earns 1x on everything, 2x on hotels, car rentals, and US restaurant. (Similar to the CSP). Points are worth exactly 1.33c/point since they redeem 7500/$100.
The interesting bit is: the card has a $75 fee, but a $100 yearly airline incidental credit (like the gold / platinum). Presumably that can be liquidated using the Gift Registry on UA or MPX. So essentially, the card has a net negative cost.
Thinking about doing the change, because why not.
The card earns 1x on everything, 2x on hotels, car rentals, and US restaurant. (Similar to the CSP). Points are worth exactly 1.33c/point since they redeem 7500/$100.
The interesting bit is: the card has a $75 fee, but a $100 yearly airline incidental credit (like the gold / platinum). Presumably that can be liquidated using the Gift Registry on UA or MPX. So essentially, the card has a net negative cost.
Thinking about doing the change, because why not.
How it Works
Call 877-486-6406 to request a credit for Flight Incidental Fees that you've purchased with your Card within 6 billing cycles of the fee appearing on your billing statement.
If the Amex representative is unable to locate both the original airfare ticket charge and the Flight Incidental Fee on your statements, additional proof may be requested for approval such as a copy of your receipts showing the itemized expense incurred.
If your request is approved, you'll see the allowance in the form of a statement credit within 7-10 business days of qualification.
You can request credit for as many purchases as you have made in one calendar year until the $100 allowance has been reached.
Sep 18, 2015, 4:00 pm
#45
Join Date: May 2015
Location: LAX, BUR
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Posts: 1,933
How it Works
Call 877-486-6406 to request a credit for Flight Incidental Fees that you've purchased with your Card within 6 billing cycles of the fee appearing on your billing statement.
If the Amex representative is unable to locate both the original airfare ticket charge and the Flight Incidental Fee on your statements, additional proof may be requested for approval such as a copy of your receipts showing the itemized expense incurred.
If your request is approved, you'll see the allowance in the form of a statement credit within 7-10 business days of qualification.
You can request credit for as many purchases as you have made in one calendar year until the $100 allowance has been reached.