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Old Oct 9, 2013, 1:33 pm
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Q. Where can I find a list of the airline and hotel transfer partners?

Partner airline and hotel programs, transfer ratios, and rules vary by the country where your American Express card is issued:

Australia: Airlines & Hotels

Canada: Airlines & Hotels

International Dollar & Euro Cards: Airlines & Hotels

New Zealand: Airlines & Hotels

UK: Airlines, Hotels

USA: Airlines & Hotels Transfer ratios explained below.


Q. What are the transfer ratios to USA airline and hotel partners?

For most frequent customer programs, 1,000 Membership Rewards points will equal 1,000 miles, points or credits and must be transferred in 1,000-point increments unless otherwise noted.

The only exceptions are:
JetBlue Airways: 250 points = 200 JetBlue TrueBlue® points; must be transferred in 250-point increments
El AL Israel Airlines: 1,000 points = 20 Matmid points
Starwood Preferred Guest®: 1,000 points = 333 Starpoints®
Hilton®: 1,000 points = 1,500 HHonors™ points
Virgin America: 200 points = 100 Elevate points; must be transferred in 200-point increments

Q. How long does it typically take to compete a transfer?

MR USA airline and hotel partner transfer times.


Q. How can I use Membership Rewards points to travel on American Airlines, United Airlines, Alaska Airlines or other carriers which are not transfer partners?

Membership Rewards (USA) points can be transferred to three or more frequent flyer programs in each of the international alliances. Any program can arrange award travel on flights operated by all members of the same alliance. Points cannot be transferred from one frequent flyer program to another, instead you redeem for a partner award. The number of miles required is determined by the program through which you redeem, not by the airline operating the flights. Programs in the same alliance will require different amounts of miles, and different co-payments, for the same flights. Do not transfer until you understand the full cost of the flights you need. Do not transfer until you have confirmed availability for your specific dates and route.

To travel on American Airlines, US Airways or any other OneWorld carrier redeem through:
  • Asia Miles (Cathay Pacific)
  • British Airways
  • Iberia Airlines
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  • El Al is not a OneWorld member, but they do have a rewards partnership with American Airlines, see HERE. Ends October 31, 2014.
  • Hawaiian Airlines is not a OneWorld member, but they do have a rewards partnership with American Airlines, see HERE.

To travel on Delta Air Lines or any other SkyTeam carrier redeem through:
  • Delta Air Lines
  • AeroMexico
  • Alitalia
  • FlyingBlue (Air France, KLM, Air Europa, Kenya Airways, Aircalin and Tarom.)
    *Note: DL permits one-way awards as of 01 JAN 2015, however trips originating outside of USA carry additional surcharges.

To travel on United Airlines or any other Star Alliance carrier redeem through:
  • Aeroplan (Air Canada) No fuel surcharge on flights operated by UA and many other airlines. Read current list HERE.
  • All Nippon Airways. Read about ANA fuel surcharges HERE. Read about changes to partner redemption charts in April 2015 HERE.
  • Singapore Airlines. Read HERE
    Read about Singapore Airlines' reciprocal mile conversion arrangement with Virgin Australia HERE.

To travel on Alaska Airlines redeem through:
  • Asia Miles
  • British Airways
  • Delta Airlines
  • Emirates
  • FlyingBlue



Q. Rather than transferring now, can I preserve my Membership Rewards USA points balance without paying any annual fee?

Apply for an American Express Everyday card, and link it to the same Membership Rewards account. You may then close the other cards.
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Old Sep 19, 2014, 10:57 am
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Originally Posted by mia
Welcome to FlyerTalk. No one can tell you the best trip, because we don't know your interests or preferences. Are you content to fly in economy, or would you value the experience of flying in a premium cabin? What is your budget? (You cannot pay the full cost of any trip with miles or points, there are always expenses.) Would you travel alone?
I really am open to anything. I haven't travelled a lot.

I am open to economy or premium cabin.

Budget I suppose is 2-10k for 2 adults.

Don't mind travelling alone or with my girlfriend. Really am a complete noob in regards to Amex MR points.

Thanks,
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Old Sep 19, 2014, 11:01 am
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Thank you for the clarification. Start by reviewing this thread, which explains that while Aeroplan does collect fuel surcharges on flights operated by Air Canada, and several other partners, there are many partners on which they do not:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...rd-travel.html
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Old Sep 19, 2014, 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by mia
Thank you for the clarification. Start by reviewing this thread, which explains that while Aeroplan does collect fuel surcharges on flights operated by Air Canada, and several other partners, there are many partners on which they do not:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...rd-travel.html
Thanks. So let's say the goal is either Toronto to Europe (Italy, France, Spain as a few examples) or Toronto to Asia (Hong Kong, India, China, Japan as a few).

What would be the best use of 200,000 - 250,000 MR points?

Let me know if I am still too vague in terms of describing my request.

Much appreciated!
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Old Sep 22, 2014, 10:50 am
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Originally Posted by Mbha
Thanks. So let's say the goal is either Toronto to Europe (Italy, France, Spain as a few examples) or Toronto to Asia (Hong Kong, India, China, Japan as a few).

What would be the best use of 200,000 - 250,000 MR points?

Let me know if I am still too vague in terms of describing my request.

Much appreciated!
You need to travel via one of the Star alliance airlines that don't charge fees on Aeroplan tickets. Thus, if you want to go to, say, Barcelona, try to find availability on Swiss, for instance YYZ-ZRH-BCN, or on Turkish YYZ-IST-BCN. LOT has some surcharges but they are much lower than AC, so another good option. Find availability for your longest flight, then check the connections.

And definitely go Business. The additional points are so worth it!

Ultimately, the best use is to use them to travel to somewhere you actually want to travel to. Sounds obvious, but I think people get a little too focused on getting the best monetary value out of their points, and forget that it's a waste unless the points buy you something you actually want. So my best advice would be to start researching where you'd like to go, and figure out how you can get there.
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Old Sep 23, 2014, 2:51 pm
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Hi -

I am looking to book flights from DC to the Caribbean (preferably St. Thomas) around President's Day weekend.

Is BA my best bet? Their online tool was not very helpful as it was not giving me the option to search partner airlines, so I am assuming a call would be more helpful. United didnt have any availability, so I assume ANA/Aeroplan is out? Delta was absurd (as per usual).

Thanks for any thoughts, tips, etc.
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Old Sep 23, 2014, 2:56 pm
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Originally Posted by kapstone
Is BA my best bet? Their online tool was not very helpful as it was not giving me the option to search partner airlines
ba.com will let you search for partner seats, but it's cumbersome. The better way is to serach on aa.com (as if you were going to redeem AA miles), look -only- for sAAver inventory*, make note of the available flight numbers, then call BA to book. You can transfer the points to BAEC while you are on the phone. No need to transfer on speculation.


*You must find sAAver availability. Partner airlines cannot use AAnytime seat inventory.
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Old Sep 24, 2014, 8:08 am
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Hello I need to travel from Seoul to Taipei and Tokyo and back. May I have Flyertalk help to which airline company to use. I was thinking British, any suggestions,please.
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Old Sep 24, 2014, 11:29 am
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Originally Posted by victoriyad
Hello I need to travel from Seoul to Taipei and Tokyo and back. May I have Flyertalk help to which airline company to use. I was thinking British, any suggestions,please.
BA avios costs for one way business class are:

ICN-TPE 15000
TPE-NRT 20000
NRT-ICN 15000

AC Aeroplan does not allow stopovers within one region, but you could do an open jaw:

ICN-TPE-NRT

Bookable on aeroplan.com for 30000 + ~$40 on EVA Air.

Then buy a separate one way NRT-ICN for 15000 BA Avios.
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Old Sep 24, 2014, 1:21 pm
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Updated Wikipost to add information about reciprocal mileage transfer agreement between Singapore Airlines and Virgin Australia. However, it is unclear if this agreement means that those who reside outside Oceania will be eligible to even join Virgin Australia's program. To follow this topic:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/singa...alia-ffps.html

Last edited by mia; Sep 24, 2014 at 1:33 pm
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Old Sep 25, 2014, 6:09 am
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Thank you. To clarify, if I want to spend 3-4 days in TPE and then same in NRT and back to ICN my best option BA?


Originally Posted by echino
BA avios costs for one way business class are:

ICN-TPE 15000
TPE-NRT 20000
NRT-ICN 15000

AC Aeroplan does not allow stopovers within one region, but you could do an open jaw:

ICN-TPE-NRT

Bookable on aeroplan.com for 30000 + ~$40 on EVA Air.

Then buy a separate one way NRT-ICN for 15000 BA Avios.

Last edited by mia; Sep 25, 2014 at 6:57 am Reason: Repair formatting
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Old Oct 12, 2014, 1:58 pm
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I still say Singapore is the play. Their F product is one of the 3 best in the world, along with Etihad and Emirates. And their availability is great! I just booked 2 F suites, Sin-Lax and 2 F seats, SIN-DXB last week. Factor in access to the "Private Room", one of the 3 best lounges in the world, along with Emirates in DXB and LH in Frankfurt, and you've got a can't miss transfer partner!
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Old Oct 16, 2014, 12:54 am
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hi there! newbie and first post. so glad I found this as I have Amex MR points I've been holding onto as I didn't know how best to use them!

tried to read up on the thread, but hopefully someone can help me out....

I travel mostly on United and SWA - as there isn't straight trade to United, would best option be to transfer to Air Canada? and is it easy to book United flights from there?

Also I saw that I can transfer to Hilton? Right now looks like 1000MR = 2000 Hilton points. I know Hilton points aren't very valuable, but looking to see if this is another option to use my MR points.

Finally, for travel to Taiwan, on United website they have partner airlines...I'm assuming if I went the Air Canada route as above, I could use that option too?

Thanks so much!!!!
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Old Oct 16, 2014, 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by mdcubsfan
...United, would best option be to transfer to Air Canada?

Right now looks like 1000MR = 2000 Hilton points.
Welcome to Flyertalk. I suggest that you read the Wikipost at the top of this thread to see that there are three Star Alliance transfer partners from which to choose for flights operated by UA. Which you use will depend on the routing, because the programs require different amounts of miles for the same trip.

The transfer rate to HHonors is 1000:1500 -not- 1000:2000.
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Old Oct 16, 2014, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by mia
The transfer rate to HHonors is 1000:1500 -not- 1000:2000.
It appears that there is some type of 1000:2000 promotion for Hilton, but it isn't available to everyone. Some discussion HERE.
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Old Oct 16, 2014, 12:15 pm
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hilton transfer

Originally Posted by mia
Welcome to Flyertalk. I suggest that you read the Wikipost at the top of this thread to see that there are three Star Alliance transfer partners from which to choose for flights operated by UA. Which you use will depend on the routing, because the programs require different amounts of miles for the same trip.

The transfer rate to HHonors is 1000:1500 -not- 1000:2000.
yes, I double checked this morning and I see the transfer to HHonors at 1:2....so is this a good promo I should jump on right away?

as far as the partner airlines for United, I see 3 listed in the Wiki....this may be a totally dumb question so please bear with me, but...do I just sign up for those partner programs, and then book through them to travel from US to Taiwan if they have that available? doesn't matter that I live in US if I book or travel on air canada, all nipon, or singapore correct?

thanks!
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