Guide: Infant / lap child fares & fees for AA travel, including award & upgrades
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Mar 9, 16, 10:33 pm
#16
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP...couple hotels and cars too
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The actual fare rules (not guidance to agents) is murky on this point.
Someone should press a case with DOT.
AA says '10% of the applicable fare' but fails to actually say (what dave noble said) and that is 'what it would cost today if an adult were flying'. The word "Current" is NOT in the fare rule.
That is how aa interprets this rule- no doubt about that- but it is an interpretation of a poorly written tariff. IMO
Someone should press a case with DOT.
AA says '10% of the applicable fare' but fails to actually say (what dave noble said) and that is 'what it would cost today if an adult were flying'. The word "Current" is NOT in the fare rule.
That is how aa interprets this rule- no doubt about that- but it is an interpretation of a poorly written tariff. IMO
Mar 10, 16, 4:00 pm
#18
Join Date: Jan 2006
Programs: AA Exp
Posts: 805
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
AA ( like other carriers ) will charge 10% (excluding taxes) of the lowest available adult fare that it can sell for that journey . (...)
Mar 11, 16, 6:30 pm
#19
Join Date: Jun 2004
Programs: BD, DL, UA, AA, Marriott, SPG
Posts: 1,087
Any recent experience with what AA is charging for infant fares on EY award tickets?
I called the AA office in India and put the following flights on hold for 2 adults and 1 infant
BOM - AUH - CDG
INV - LHR - AUH - BOM
Other than the INV - LHR which is in BA economy everything else is in EY First.
AA initially asked me to contact EY to issue infant ticket.
EY quoted me ~ US $ 900 for the infant ticket but said since there is a segment on BA I should check with AA/BA.
I then called AA US back who after putting me on hold for a long time quoted me ~ US $ 1,100 for the infant ticket. I called back once more and they quoted me the exact same far.
Will the infant fare be cheaper if I switch to
BOM - AUH - LHR
INV - LHR - AUH - BOM
Thanks!
I called the AA office in India and put the following flights on hold for 2 adults and 1 infant
BOM - AUH - CDG
INV - LHR - AUH - BOM
Other than the INV - LHR which is in BA economy everything else is in EY First.
AA initially asked me to contact EY to issue infant ticket.
EY quoted me ~ US $ 900 for the infant ticket but said since there is a segment on BA I should check with AA/BA.
I then called AA US back who after putting me on hold for a long time quoted me ~ US $ 1,100 for the infant ticket. I called back once more and they quoted me the exact same far.
Will the infant fare be cheaper if I switch to
BOM - AUH - LHR
INV - LHR - AUH - BOM
Thanks!
Mar 14, 16, 10:28 am
#20
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Teaneck, NJ
Programs: SPG Gold, HHonors Gold, IHG Platinum, Marriott Silver
Posts: 682
Approximate Amount of Lap Child Cost from US-Cancun
Has anyone recently flown to Cancun on AA with a lap child that could approximate how much it would cost for the lap child.
The flights we're looking at on American are around $500 all-in in coach. Is it usually around 10% of that fare plus the $70 in taxes or so it costs to go to Mexico?
We're trying to decide on a few short-haul places for vacation, some of which are in the US with no fee, and some in Mexico or Caribbean.
Thanks.
The flights we're looking at on American are around $500 all-in in coach. Is it usually around 10% of that fare plus the $70 in taxes or so it costs to go to Mexico?
We're trying to decide on a few short-haul places for vacation, some of which are in the US with no fee, and some in Mexico or Caribbean.
Thanks.
Mar 14, 16, 10:30 am
#21
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Location: SNA
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Originally Posted by yoshapman
Has anyone recently flown to Cancun on AA with a lap child that could approximate how much it would cost for the lap child.
The flights we're looking at on American are around $500 all-in in coach. Is it usually around 10% of that fare plus the $70 in taxes or so it costs to go to Mexico?
We're trying to decide on a few short-haul places for vacation, some of which are in the US with no fee, and some in Mexico or Caribbean.
Thanks.
The flights we're looking at on American are around $500 all-in in coach. Is it usually around 10% of that fare plus the $70 in taxes or so it costs to go to Mexico?
We're trying to decide on a few short-haul places for vacation, some of which are in the US with no fee, and some in Mexico or Caribbean.
Thanks.
Mar 14, 16, 10:32 am
#22
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: AA Plat, SPG Gold
Posts: 393
Originally Posted by yoshapman
We're trying to decide on a few short-haul places for vacation, some of which are in the US with no fee, and some in Mexico or Caribbean.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Mar 14, 16, 11:26 am
#23
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: NYC
Posts: 8,328
Originally Posted by yoshapman
We're trying to decide on a few short-haul places for vacation, some of which are in the US with no fee, and some in Mexico or Caribbean.
Thanks.
Mar 14, 16, 9:41 pm
#25
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: US
Programs: AAdvantage
Posts: 1,753
Originally Posted by VickiSoCal
It's exactly "10% of the adult revenue fare, plus taxes & fees"
AA's published infant fares for MIA-CUN and CUN-MIA are all $0 for the random dates I pulled up. Taxes should come out to about $17.50, generally the US APHIS, customs, and federal inspection fees (in fact, it looks like the APHIS user fee has gone down recently).
Mar 21, 16, 1:54 am
#26
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SJC
Programs: AA EXP, HH Diamond, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 70
Question about changing ticketed infant in seat to lap child.
Hello all,
I have a quick question.
My wife, son (7 months) and I are currently in Japan. We are in the middle of LAX-HND-LAX and we are to head back to LAX on Friday 1AM Japan time.
We are all ticketed (econ, SWU on return pending). We bought our infant a ticket so he could be in his car seat for the flight, but he literally was in his car seat for less than 20 min the whole flight on the outbound leg as he was crying every time we tried putting him in his seat. I had used SWU's to get us all into business, but he slept w my wife in her seat. His business seat became a car seat holder!
I am trying to figure out what the best plan of action would be for our flight back. As he will not sit in his car seat, we would like to take him as a lap child. I called and tried to see if we can change his ticket. The change would eat up any residual value left in the ticket, and the infant in lap price currently is $375. If we keep the seats the way they are, I would have to waste a SWU on his seat (as we cant upgrade without him).
Has anyone ran into this problem before? Im contemplating paying the $375 and keeping the SWU but I feel silly canceling a paid ticket and paying more to have my son sit as a lap child.
Any help you guys could offer would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
I have a quick question.
My wife, son (7 months) and I are currently in Japan. We are in the middle of LAX-HND-LAX and we are to head back to LAX on Friday 1AM Japan time.
We are all ticketed (econ, SWU on return pending). We bought our infant a ticket so he could be in his car seat for the flight, but he literally was in his car seat for less than 20 min the whole flight on the outbound leg as he was crying every time we tried putting him in his seat. I had used SWU's to get us all into business, but he slept w my wife in her seat. His business seat became a car seat holder!
I am trying to figure out what the best plan of action would be for our flight back. As he will not sit in his car seat, we would like to take him as a lap child. I called and tried to see if we can change his ticket. The change would eat up any residual value left in the ticket, and the infant in lap price currently is $375. If we keep the seats the way they are, I would have to waste a SWU on his seat (as we cant upgrade without him).
Has anyone ran into this problem before? Im contemplating paying the $375 and keeping the SWU but I feel silly canceling a paid ticket and paying more to have my son sit as a lap child.
Any help you guys could offer would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Mar 21, 16, 6:26 am
#27
Join Date: May 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP, LT Gold
Posts: 3,017
Does your wife have status? If you're waitlisted, are you sure are all going to clear?
I have this issue a lot traveling with our 8mo old, too. My wife does NOT have status, thus she is at the bottom of the waitlist whenever my SWUs are waitlisted. Usually, I get the biz seat and she doesn't.
If your wife has EXP or PLT status, this is less of a consideration.
Otherwise, I suppose it just goes back to how much an SWU is worth to you. For me, it's worth more than $375, so I would pay the lap child fee and cancel the ticket, keeping the additional SWU to use on a trip later in the year.
YMMW, of course!
I have this issue a lot traveling with our 8mo old, too. My wife does NOT have status, thus she is at the bottom of the waitlist whenever my SWUs are waitlisted. Usually, I get the biz seat and she doesn't.
If your wife has EXP or PLT status, this is less of a consideration.
Otherwise, I suppose it just goes back to how much an SWU is worth to you. For me, it's worth more than $375, so I would pay the lap child fee and cancel the ticket, keeping the additional SWU to use on a trip later in the year.
YMMW, of course!
Mar 21, 16, 1:29 pm
#28
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Originally Posted by bd24133
I am trying to figure out what the best plan of action would be for our flight back. As he will not sit in his car seat, we would like to take him as a lap child. I called and tried to see if we can change his ticket. The change would eat up any residual value left in the ticket, and the infant in lap price currently is $375. If we keep the seats the way they are, I would have to waste a SWU on his seat (as we cant upgrade without him).
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Looking at one way fares HND-LAX for friday, the infant fare is showing as $507.16 in business class and $380.16 in economy.
Mar 21, 16, 6:33 pm
#29
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SJC
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Thanks for the reply guys.
My wife is plat. My son has no status (yet). We cleared the swu's without splitting so hopefully will clear on the return too.
The tickets are Econ tix so from what I understand they would be 10% of the lowest available fare. Since there are (or at least we're last I checked) Econ fares left we would pay the Econ fare. I'm assuming if only biz left then we would have to pay 10% of the lowest biz fare, but this I'm not sure of.
One thing that I thought of was splitting the res so that only me and my son upgrade using the SWUs and splitting my wife off and "leaving" her in Econ. Then she could come up and take his seat and have him in her lap. But I'm guessing that the flight crew may have an issue w that.
My wife is plat. My son has no status (yet). We cleared the swu's without splitting so hopefully will clear on the return too.
The tickets are Econ tix so from what I understand they would be 10% of the lowest available fare. Since there are (or at least we're last I checked) Econ fares left we would pay the Econ fare. I'm assuming if only biz left then we would have to pay 10% of the lowest biz fare, but this I'm not sure of.
One thing that I thought of was splitting the res so that only me and my son upgrade using the SWUs and splitting my wife off and "leaving" her in Econ. Then she could come up and take his seat and have him in her lap. But I'm guessing that the flight crew may have an issue w that.
Mar 21, 16, 7:46 pm
#30
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Originally Posted by bd24133
Thanks for the reply guys.
My wife is plat. My son has no status (yet). We cleared the swu's without splitting so hopefully will clear on the return too.
The tickets are Econ tix so from what I understand they would be 10% of the lowest available fare. Since there are (or at least we're last I checked) Econ fares left we would pay the Econ fare. I'm assuming if only biz left then we would have to pay 10% of the lowest biz fare, but this I'm not sure of.
One thing that I thought of was splitting the res so that only me and my son upgrade using the SWUs and splitting my wife off and "leaving" her in Econ. Then she could come up and take his seat and have him in her lap. But I'm guessing that the flight crew may have an issue w that.
My wife is plat. My son has no status (yet). We cleared the swu's without splitting so hopefully will clear on the return too.
The tickets are Econ tix so from what I understand they would be 10% of the lowest available fare. Since there are (or at least we're last I checked) Econ fares left we would pay the Econ fare. I'm assuming if only biz left then we would have to pay 10% of the lowest biz fare, but this I'm not sure of.
One thing that I thought of was splitting the res so that only me and my son upgrade using the SWUs and splitting my wife off and "leaving" her in Econ. Then she could come up and take his seat and have him in her lap. But I'm guessing that the flight crew may have an issue w that.
If in business class, will be 10% of lowest applicable business class fare, so will need to pay an additional $127 on the economy fare
If you book business class for yourself and wish to swap with wife, that will be likely allowed, but you cannot move to have the adult sharing the seat with the infant
