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For AA's announcement of their new One-Way Flex Awards, see: http://www.aa.com/i18n/amrcorp/newsr...FlexAwards.jsp
For AA's FAQ on the new One-Way Flex Awards, including the new stopover rule, see: http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?...award_faqs.jsp
Note that free stopovers have been eliminated as of 8 April 2014, so that portion of this discussion is no longer current.
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For AA's announcement of their new One-Way Flex Awards, see: http://www.aa.com/i18n/amrcorp/newsr...FlexAwards.jsp
For AA's FAQ on the new One-Way Flex Awards, including the new stopover rule, see: http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?...award_faqs.jsp
Q: Do one-way awards include any stopovers?
A: Awards between North America and Europe, India, Asia, and Central / South America allow a stopover at the North American gateway. However, other one-way awards do not allow stopovers.
A: Awards between North America and Europe, India, Asia, and Central / South America allow a stopover at the North American gateway. However, other one-way awards do not allow stopovers.
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New One-Way Flex Award / Awards, <NO> Stopover Rule, and Booking Engine (May 9, 2009)
May 11, 2009, 3:05 pm
#196
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,750
Would be nice to see someone reports actual booking that works this way.
May 11, 2009, 3:07 pm
#197
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,456
(http://www.travelingbetter.com/forum...0&postcount=99)
and more specifically:
http://www.travelingbetter.com/forum...ead.php?t=1124 post #36
Last edited by alien; May 11, 2009 at 3:30 pm
May 11, 2009, 3:12 pm
#198
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 17
How to Protest AAdvantage's Horrible/Sudden Changes?
This is truly a nightmare. The whole reason why I book my travel [and am an elite-level flyer] w/AAdvantage, exclusively on American & partners, is because the Award Travel options have offered international and domestic stopovers.
THE ONLY REASON.
The one-way option IS a great idea, but forcing us to cough up miles for every segment [on the otherwise normal stopovers of the route, such as London enroute to Nairobi or Miami enroute to Buenos Aires] means that every single such trip will cost an EXTRA 30-60,000 miles!!!
How many people depend on a stopover to make those 22 hour flights to India possible [deep vein thrombosis, anyone?] Also, how many of us depend also on the short stopover to see friends or family members we might otherwise never get to see, enroute during long international itineraries? [Visiting an aunt in Madrid enroute to Moscow, a cousin in Seoul enroute to Beijing, etc.].
How can they spring this on us so suddenly [I mean, I know they "can", but why is it smart for them to?] spring this on even their elite fliers??
Any suggestions who at American to complain to, or to mount a campaign will be infinitely appreciated!!!
THE ONLY REASON.
The one-way option IS a great idea, but forcing us to cough up miles for every segment [on the otherwise normal stopovers of the route, such as London enroute to Nairobi or Miami enroute to Buenos Aires] means that every single such trip will cost an EXTRA 30-60,000 miles!!!
How many people depend on a stopover to make those 22 hour flights to India possible [deep vein thrombosis, anyone?] Also, how many of us depend also on the short stopover to see friends or family members we might otherwise never get to see, enroute during long international itineraries? [Visiting an aunt in Madrid enroute to Moscow, a cousin in Seoul enroute to Beijing, etc.].
How can they spring this on us so suddenly [I mean, I know they "can", but why is it smart for them to?] spring this on even their elite fliers??
Any suggestions who at American to complain to, or to mount a campaign will be infinitely appreciated!!!
May 11, 2009, 3:14 pm
#199
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 7,901
Is this just your dry sense of humor?Sure you can use cash instead of miles for the connecting flights. Why stop there? You can also purchase the whole thing!
May 11, 2009, 3:25 pm
#202
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,750
It might, if the through ticket is cheaper than 2 separate tickets when AA settles that with the partner carrier(s).
May 11, 2009, 3:35 pm
#203
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Location: South Bend, IN
Programs: AA EXP 3 MM; Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium Elite
Posts: 18,560
Point being, use your miles for the expensive segments and then use cash for the cheaper intra-region segments. Not as good as the free stopoer, to be sure, but another option instead of parting with more miles.
May 11, 2009, 3:41 pm
#204
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,631
(I don't care enough myself to do this, but I do agree not publicizing or giving notice of a change and trying to slip it through at the same time another change is sneaky and customer-hostile.)
May 11, 2009, 4:15 pm
#205
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: SNA
Posts: 18,240
We have an upcoming LAX-LHR-DUB-ORD-LAX trip with a stopover in LHR. That is definitely costing AA money as they have to shell out for the LHR-DUB segment on a partner.
I'm not happy abou this either, as the above trip would be quite a bit more if I had to buy four one ways to DUB and given that I'm already paying $$$ for taxes and fees, so the flights aren't "free" to begin with.
I'm not happy abou this either, as the above trip would be quite a bit more if I had to buy four one ways to DUB and given that I'm already paying $$$ for taxes and fees, so the flights aren't "free" to begin with.
May 11, 2009, 4:19 pm
#206
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 7,901
May 11, 2009, 4:33 pm
#207
Join Date: Jan 2007
Programs: PC Pl, UA 1K, CC Gl
Posts: 2,235
Just called them. They said if the travel would not started, then they could divide r/t in 2 one ways and redeposit one. Now, after travel started it would go under old rules. 
I just thought about one more advantage of one ways. Some people have only like 13-16k in their account. Without credit card or traveling it seems their miles would expire sooner then they will get to an award. Now they can use miles right away. A huge benefit for people who rarely travel on AA.
I just thought about one more advantage of one ways. Some people have only like 13-16k in their account. Without credit card or traveling it seems their miles would expire sooner then they will get to an award. Now they can use miles right away. A huge benefit for people who rarely travel on AA.
May 11, 2009, 4:52 pm
#210
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 17
Giving Elite Flier the Shaft!
I can't imagine why they would give a "huge benefit" to thos who rarely travel on American, while making loyal, frequent/business travellers pay up to DOUBLE the mileage amounts for the same exact trips [such as flying New York to Delhi w/a London stopover might incur.] Taxing their biggest customers an extra 50,000 miles is BAD BUSINESS - especially to spring this on us w/no warning.