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American Airlines Same Day Standby Policy and Discussion
(Not to be confused with SDFC / Same Day Flight Change - see links below)
Standby has its own rules and peculiarities: (As of 14 Jan 2016)
Same-day standby
Standby for a fee (waived for AA Elites)
For $75 on domestic flights, you may standby on an earlier flight under the following conditions:
*Standby between NYC-LON is offered for $150.
AAdvantage elite members may use the standby option for earlier or later flights.
Though it appeared those with checked bags were being denied SDS, JonNYC clarified that AA affirmed AA Elites are allowed to SDS if they have checked bags. Link.
Complimentary standby
Get complimentary same-day standby with:
Complimentary same-day standby is also available for:
Link
The following passengers may standby at no charge based on availability:
Link
Q. What happens to my upgrade if I stand by for another flight?
Your upgrade and position will be lost. You can not be added to the upgrade list on your desired flight until you have cleared from standby. At that point, it may be too late to request your upgrade, given upgrade requests are normally processed prior to the standby list.
See "Airport Upgrade and Standby List" / Order, PALL List and issues (FT)
Previous posts have been archived and can be read here
Standby is not the same thing as SDFC / Same Day Confirmed Flight Change:
See "Domestic" Same Day Confirmed Flight Change / SDFC / CFC / "Standby" or
International Same Day Flight Change / SDFC / SDC / CDC
(Not to be confused with SDFC / Same Day Flight Change - see links below)
Standby has its own rules and peculiarities: (As of 14 Jan 2016)
Same-day standby
Standby for a fee (waived for AA Elites)
For $75 on domestic flights, you may standby on an earlier flight under the following conditions:
- Standby is not allowed for international flights*.
- Has the same origin and destination
- Is for the same calendar day of departure
- Is marketed and operated by American Airlines or American Eagle
- Changes to another multi-city airport or to different connecting cities are not allowed
- You can standby for your originally purchased cabin (not upgraded cabin)
- Standby means upgrades on the original flights are lost (you can not be on an upgrade list until your standby has cleared)
- Standby pax may be required to gate check carry-on baggage
- Standby is prioritized - see "PALL List" link below
*Standby between NYC-LON is offered for $150.
AAdvantage elite members may use the standby option for earlier or later flights.
Though it appeared those with checked bags were being denied SDS, JonNYC clarified that AA affirmed AA Elites are allowed to SDS if they have checked bags. Link.
Complimentary standby
Get complimentary same-day standby with:
- Unrestricted Economy Class (Y fare), Business or First Class tickets
- American Airlines AAdvantage Executive Platinum, Platinum, Platinum Pro or Gold status and companions in same record
- oneworld® Emerald, Sapphire or Ruby status and companions in same record
- AirPass membership
- First and Business Class MileSAAver award tickets
- AAnytime award tickets
- Choice Plus fares
Complimentary same-day standby is also available for:
- Active U.S. military personnel traveling on orders or personal travel
- Active U.S. military dependents traveling on orders
Link
The following passengers may standby at no charge based on availability:
- Customers who purchase unrestricted Economy Class fares (Y class of service)
- Customers who purchase Business or First Class tickets
- Active U.S. military personnel traveling on orders or personal travel
- Active U.S. military dependents traveling on orders
- American Airlines AAdvantage® Executive Platinum, Platinum Pro, Platinum or Gold members
- oneworld® alliance Emerald, Sapphire or Ruby members
- Customers flying on the same reservation as an American Airlines AAdvantage Executive Platinum, Platinum or Gold member or oneworld alliance Emerald, Sapphire or Ruby member regardless of frequent flyer status or fare type
- AAirpass® members
- First and Business Class MileSAAver® Awards
- First, Business and Economy Class AAnytime® Awards
- Customers who purchase a Choice Plus fare
Link
Q. What happens to my upgrade if I stand by for another flight?
Your upgrade and position will be lost. You can not be added to the upgrade list on your desired flight until you have cleared from standby. At that point, it may be too late to request your upgrade, given upgrade requests are normally processed prior to the standby list.
See "Airport Upgrade and Standby List" / Order, PALL List and issues (FT)
Previous posts have been archived and can be read here
Standby is not the same thing as SDFC / Same Day Confirmed Flight Change:
See "Domestic" Same Day Confirmed Flight Change / SDFC / CFC / "Standby" or
International Same Day Flight Change / SDFC / SDC / CDC
Same Day Standby / SDS (not SDFC) Rules & Discussion (master thread)
#556
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You can also request standby at the gate.
You would need to fly the same routing, i.e. if you are flying MIA/CLT/EWR you can not standby for MIA/EWR. If you missed the list flight of the day you *might* get lucky and have a generous gate agent put you on standby for a flight the next day, but they're not obligated to do that.
You can somewhat get a sense of the load factors for a flight through expert flyer, look at the flight that you're interested in and see the number next to "Y", if you see Y-7, that *might* be a decent indicator that there will be some empty seats in Y, but YMMV.
#557
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Yeah I know what you mean, I believe the chart you are referring to is here: https://www.aa.com/i18n/plan-travel/...day-travel.jsp
I was confused by this as well. It shows: "Award tickets: First, Business, MileSAAver, AAnytime" as being eligible for free SFDC and SDSB...The fact that each of the words are separated by commas would indicate that any MilesAAver ticket is eligible...that being said I have a feeling this is just a poor use of grammar.
I was confused by this as well. It shows: "Award tickets: First, Business, MileSAAver, AAnytime" as being eligible for free SFDC and SDSB...The fact that each of the words are separated by commas would indicate that any MilesAAver ticket is eligible...that being said I have a feeling this is just a poor use of grammar.
#558
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: FL, USA
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If you were booked in O class or higher (regular economy), you can standby for an earlier or later flight, provided that you have OneWorld Elite Status or are active milatary. Usually, you can select that you want to standby for a particular flight online using the same day flight change link on aa.com, both your original flight and your chosen standby flight will then show up in your PNR online.
You can also request standby at the gate.
You would need to fly the same routing, i.e. if you are flying MIA/CLT/EWR you can not standby for MIA/EWR. If you missed the list flight of the day you *might* get lucky and have a generous gate agent put you on standby for a flight the next day, but they're not obligated to do that.
You can somewhat get a sense of the load factors for a flight through expert flyer, look at the flight that you're interested in and see the number next to "Y", if you see Y-7, that *might* be a decent indicator that there will be some empty seats in Y, but YMMV.
You can also request standby at the gate.
You would need to fly the same routing, i.e. if you are flying MIA/CLT/EWR you can not standby for MIA/EWR. If you missed the list flight of the day you *might* get lucky and have a generous gate agent put you on standby for a flight the next day, but they're not obligated to do that.
You can somewhat get a sense of the load factors for a flight through expert flyer, look at the flight that you're interested in and see the number next to "Y", if you see Y-7, that *might* be a decent indicator that there will be some empty seats in Y, but YMMV.
#559
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: New York City + Vail, CO
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I'm confused, are you booked in B or not?
https://www.aasaleslink.com/en-US/do...AQ_06Mar17.pdf
18. Will customers ticketed on Basic Economy fares be eligible to purchase Same Day Flight Change and/or request flying standby on the same day as travel? No Same Day Flight Change or Same Day Standby offerings are available to customers ticketed on Basic Economy fares, regardless of their elite status
https://www.aasaleslink.com/en-US/do...AQ_06Mar17.pdf
18. Will customers ticketed on Basic Economy fares be eligible to purchase Same Day Flight Change and/or request flying standby on the same day as travel? No Same Day Flight Change or Same Day Standby offerings are available to customers ticketed on Basic Economy fares, regardless of their elite status
#560
Join Date: May 2008
Location: PHL (kinda, no airport is really close)
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I've never done this particular trick, but I think they would tend to book you out the next day. The AA website is mute on this point. But as much as the airlines have become jerks about making traveling tolerable, they will mostly try to get you where you're going sooner or later. Still I wouldn't push my luck, especially on the last flight of the day and triply so if there are IRROPS that will cause them to reaccommodate pax with mucked-up connections.
#561
Join Date: May 2008
Location: PHL (kinda, no airport is really close)
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Without addressing this specific situation, and noting that I can't remember the last time I traveled on an award ticket without status, I've found AA to be extremely flexible with changes on award tix.
#562
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Yes that I understand as I have already done this once before but for an earlier flight. I have never done it for a later flight. So then as long as I request it thru the app, my ticket will not get cancelled if I do not show up for the initial flight in the morning? That is my biggest concern..Also as to the bolding, so what does that mean IRL, if for whatever reason they cannot place you on a later flight that same day, does your ticket just go to waste?
#563
Join Date: Nov 2015
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I'm confused, are you booked in B or not?
https://www.aasaleslink.com/en-US/do...AQ_06Mar17.pdf
18. Will customers ticketed on Basic Economy fares be eligible to purchase Same Day Flight Change and/or request flying standby on the same day as travel? No Same Day Flight Change or Same Day Standby offerings are available to customers ticketed on Basic Economy fares, regardless of their elite status
https://www.aasaleslink.com/en-US/do...AQ_06Mar17.pdf
18. Will customers ticketed on Basic Economy fares be eligible to purchase Same Day Flight Change and/or request flying standby on the same day as travel? No Same Day Flight Change or Same Day Standby offerings are available to customers ticketed on Basic Economy fares, regardless of their elite status
The BE option is the cheapest but we have already established that I cannot standyby for that. So then I will just look at regular economy. So no I have not booked a ticket yet.
#564
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I've never done this particular trick, but I think they would tend to book you out the next day. The AA website is mute on this point. But as much as the airlines have become jerks about making traveling tolerable, they will mostly try to get you where you're going sooner or later. Still I wouldn't push my luck, especially on the last flight of the day and triply so if there are IRROPS that will cause them to reaccommodate pax with mucked-up connections.
IRL, I've asked gate agents to put me on same day standby for earlier flights to co-terminals (JFK/LGA) or on direct routing and been denied multiple times. I've been told that it's not possible to do in their system. I've never been in your exact situation, because I don't want to risk having missed my flight, but I would not bank on changing your routing or going to a co-terminal.
#565
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Expert Flyer has a 5 day free trial, you can see real availability on various itns. So, if the flight(s) you want to standby on are showing all 0's, I wouldn't gamble on getting a seat.
#566
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Yes that I understand as I have already done this once before but for an earlier flight. I have never done it for a later flight. So then as long as I request it thru the app, my ticket will not get cancelled if I do not show up for the initial flight in the morning? That is my biggest concern..Also as to the bolding, so what does that mean IRL, if for whatever reason they cannot place you on a later flight that same day, does your ticket just go to waste?
The reason not a lot of people are reporting their experiences about what happens if you miss the last flight of the day is that most FTers are experienced travelers who (a) know how to use EF to check loads and (b) wouldn't purposefully give up a confirmed ticket for a later standby unless they had pretty good reason to believe they would get on. I would never stand by for the last flight of the day if I really had to get to where I was going; hence, I don't have any experience to report back. I don't even stand by for earlier flights unless I'm either already at the airport or the flight is showing Y2 or better before I leave for the airport.
#567
Join Date: Mar 2017
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Yes that I understand as I have already done this once before but for an earlier flight. I have never done it for a later flight. So then as long as I request it thru the app, my ticket will not get cancelled if I do not show up for the initial flight in the morning? That is my biggest concern..Also as to the bolding, so what does that mean IRL, if for whatever reason they cannot place you on a later flight that same day, does your ticket just go to waste?
- Day of departure - is this a weekday or a weekend - if it's a weekend there are going to be considerably less business travelers with elite status and your chances of clearing standby are much higher
- Number of daily flights on this route - If there are multiple flights that day are you trying to get on the last flight of the day or the second to last?
- Admirals Club - I've seen the agents in the admirals club perform diving miracles of modern aviation - are you an AC member? If not check out the meetup thread on here, or buy a one day pass.
#568
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The other piece I'd advise is be at the gate. Before boarding, go up to the GA, and ask to make sure you're on the standby list. They'll say you are and make a mental note that you are present.
Many, many times I've seen the GAs clear the standby list at the end of boarding and give tickets to people physically present. They're also far less likely to give the seat to a non-rev below you on the list if you're present and watching them. I find that standby clearing doesn't necessarily always follow the list the way the upgrade list (almost always) does.
Many, many times I've seen the GAs clear the standby list at the end of boarding and give tickets to people physically present. They're also far less likely to give the seat to a non-rev below you on the list if you're present and watching them. I find that standby clearing doesn't necessarily always follow the list the way the upgrade list (almost always) does.
#569
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You keep asking this and I think you've gotten the answer several times. You can standby for a later flight as Gold; it works exactly the same as standing by for an earlier flight. As others have said if you do not make it on the same day, you may be out of luck. That is the official program: same day standby is only for flights on the same day. "IRL" obviously anything is possible, but you shouldn't plan your travel assuming you'll get an exception to the published rules.
The reason not a lot of people are reporting their experiences about what happens if you miss the last flight of the day is that most FTers are experienced travelers who (a) know how to use EF to check loads and (b) wouldn't purposefully give up a confirmed ticket for a later standby unless they had pretty good reason to believe they would get on. I would never stand by for the last flight of the day if I really had to get to where I was going; hence, I don't have any experience to report back. I don't even stand by for earlier flights unless I'm either already at the airport or the flight is showing Y2 or better before I leave for the airport.
The reason not a lot of people are reporting their experiences about what happens if you miss the last flight of the day is that most FTers are experienced travelers who (a) know how to use EF to check loads and (b) wouldn't purposefully give up a confirmed ticket for a later standby unless they had pretty good reason to believe they would get on. I would never stand by for the last flight of the day if I really had to get to where I was going; hence, I don't have any experience to report back. I don't even stand by for earlier flights unless I'm either already at the airport or the flight is showing Y2 or better before I leave for the airport.
#570
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The other piece I'd advise is be at the gate. Before boarding, go up to the GA, and ask to make sure you're on the standby list. They'll say you are and make a mental note that you are present.
Many, many times I've seen the GAs clear the standby list at the end of boarding and give tickets to people physically present. They're also far less likely to give the seat to a non-rev below you on the list if you're present and watching them. I find that standby clearing doesn't necessarily always follow the list the way the upgrade list (almost always) does.
Many, many times I've seen the GAs clear the standby list at the end of boarding and give tickets to people physically present. They're also far less likely to give the seat to a non-rev below you on the list if you're present and watching them. I find that standby clearing doesn't necessarily always follow the list the way the upgrade list (almost always) does.