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Domestic Same Day Confirmed Flight Change / SDFC / SDC / CFC / "Standby"

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"Domestic" Same Day Confirmed Flight Change / SDFC / SDC / CFC / "Standby"
"AA Domestic" here includes Canada, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands and the Caribbean

N.B. Different than "standby"; see link.

NOTE CHANGED POLICY: June 2018 - E class availability is not (or no longer) definitive on whether SDFC may happen. "Other" aspects may be taken in to consideration. Seems few other changes but it is now clear that passengers in domestic premium cabins can SDFC at no charge. More here: Guide: New SDFC / Same Day Flight Change Restrictions 8 Jun 2018

NOTE CHANGED POLICY: As of 15 January 2016 the SDFC option will be limited to alternate flights only if they follow the same origin, destination, and also SAME CONNECTION POINT. Other rules seem to be unchanged as far as available 24-hours before, no charge to CK, EXP or up to three companions on the same PNR, no co-terminals allowed, and slight overlap to calendar date limitation for late night may be possible. Domestic segments that are part of a domestic and international itinerary are generally not eligible.

NOTE 1 re upgrades: To effectively use SDFC you must call to downgrade first. If you SDFC successfully then, you may request an upgrade on your new flight.

NOTE 2 re Upgrades. On SDFC, for e500 or EXP UDU the original upgrade request time stamp remains on the upgrade request; with SWU, you will get a new time of request time stamp. (It's useful not to check in for ~10 minutes after you SDFC or you may find yourself in a pickle with upgrade requests.)

NOTE 3 re PreCheck / KTN: For an unknown reason, going on to SDFC will delete or eliminate your Known Traveler number for the record, so your PreCheck will likely not be granted. You'll have to call or have the ticket counter restore your KTN. (According to reports in May 2018, this does not seem to be a pervasive issue any longer).

N.B. This thread relates to AA "domestic" changes only, for international same day changes see this thread.


Link to American Airlines' current policy on Same Day Flight Change and detailed Terms and Conditions

Link AA FAQ - Same Day Flight Change

Link to archived posts made before the recent changes

The price to confirm same day flight change is now $75* (free for EXPs and others as shown in "Complimentary..." below as of 1 Jan 2015):
http://www.aa.com/aa/pubcontent/en_U...eDayTravel.jsp
Change and Standby Options (Link)
Same-Day Flight Changes

Did you know you can change your domestic flight† and get a confirmed seat for a $75 (non-refundable) charge? The option is available on all fares in the Main Cabin. For $75 you can confirm a seat on a different flight as long as the alternate flight:

1. Has the same origin AND destination
2. Is the same calendar day of departure
3. Has eligible seats available ("E" fare inventory for all fares)

We continue to offer the same-day stand by option for an earlier or later domestic flight for select customers at no charge. See above link for list of select customers.

We now have four convenient options to make same-day flight changes:

1. Online: Beginning 24 hours prior to departure, you can request a same-day flight change on aa.com through the check-in window. Just select each passenger who is requesting a flight change and pay the non-refundable $75 per passenger charge.

2. Over the Phone: Beginning 24 hours prior to departure, you can call Reservations and our agents will provide information for available flights departing on the same day as your original flight. The non-refundable $75 charge can be paid over the phone via credit card.

Once you arrive at the airport, you can check in for your new flight at Curbside Check-In, Self-Service Check-In, or our ticket counter.

3. At a Check-In Kiosk: Beginning 12 hours prior to departure, the Self-Service Check-In machines will provide a list of available flights for the same day as your original flight. Just choose the flight, pay the non-refundable $75 charge, and complete the check-in process. You will receive a boarding pass for your newly confirmed flight and a receipt for the charge.

4. At the Ticket Counter: Beginning 24 hours prior to departure, our agents can provide a list of available flights for the same day as your original flight. Just choose the flight and pay the non-refundable $75 charge. You will receive a boarding pass for your newly confirmed flight and a receipt for the charge.

Same-day flight changes are subject to Terms and Conditions.

Available for flights in the U.S., Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Canada and the Caribbean on American Airlines, American Eagle® and AmericanConnection®.

*Note: 1.Passengers traveling on unrestricted Y fares and AAdvantage AAnytime travel awards have the flexibility to change flight arrangements at no charge. Passengers traveling on AAdvantage MileSAAver awards continue to have the flexibility to change the date/time of their flights at no charge, provided award seats are available on the desired flight. If award seats are not available on the desired flight, you may obtain a confirmed seat on the same day by paying the $75 charge.



Complimentary confirmed flight change (Link)

Get a complimentary same-day confirmed flight change with:
  • Unrestricted Economy Class (Y fare), Business or First Class tickets
  • American Airlines AAdvantage® Executive Platinum status and companions in same record
  • AirPass® membership
  • First and Business Class award tickets
  • MileSAAver® & AAnytime® award tickets
  • Choice Plus fares

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Originally Posted by ThreeJulietTango View Post
...If the original flight leaves between 8 PM and midnight, you can SDFC to flights leaving from midnight to 2 AM on the following calendar day (but still the same night) and vice versa. This was revised around the same time that the routing/coterminal restrictions were added in July.

Keep in mind that reservations and airport agents may be looking at slightly different references...
Passengers traveling on unrestricted Y fares and AAdvantage AAnytime travel awards have the flexibility to change flight arrangements at no charge. Passengers traveling on AAdvantage MileSAAver awards continue to have the flexibility to change the date/time of their flights at no charge, provided award seats are available on the desired flight. If award seats are not available on the desired flight, you may obtain a confirmed seat on the same day by paying the $75 charge.

Customers who purchased a Choice Plus fare have the flexibility to change one flight at no charge, provided seats are available on the desired flight.
Looking for more information? Please see our Frequently Asked Questions.

†Available for flights in the U.S., Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Canada and the Caribbean on American Airlines, American Eagle and American Connection®.

* Same-day flight change charges are non-refundable. Same-day standby charges are automatically refunded if you are not accommodated on the standby flight.

. . . N.B. Inventory must be available in "E" bucket for Confirmed Flight Change to be offered; even then it still may not be available due to "Other" considerations.

Link to AA Same Day Confirmed Flight a Change Terms and Conditions

Link to aa.com Same Day Flight Change policy

Link to aa.com Same Day Travel Changes / SDFC and Standby FAQ

Archive of previous terms and conditions: http://web.archive.org/web/201405221...mers/sd-tc.jsp


Nuances and Loose Rules

Now for the hard part: figuring out where the flexibility is in the rules. This list is compiled from the responses to people saying "Can I do X?" where X is something that is not clearly permitted by the rules. One's likelihood of success here depends a bit on the method used for the SDC. (Note: this is a work in progress and your contributions/corrections are appreciated!)

For each item, the following codes apply:
Y = possible using any method
A = possible using an agent (phone/counter), perhaps having to HUACA
A* = mixed reports of success with an agent (phone/counter)
N* = possible only if you find a very accommodating agent
N = little or no reported success.
  • Violating various non-routing fare rules (day/time, minimum stay, etc.): A* (see post 1020)
  • Change to flight with no E fares available (day/time, minimum stay, etc.): A* (see [http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25099215-post1111.html"]post 1111)
  • Change routing with E avails but keep same number of connections, i.e BOS-ORD-LAX to BOS-DFW-LAX ??
  • Change destination to an entirely different place: N
  • Change destination to a co-terminal (e.g. LGA -> JFK): A* (see post 1081, post 1114 & this blog post )
  • Change destination to ultra-close airport non-coterminal airport (e.g. JFK-> LGA): ??
  • Change itinerary at the beginning to include illegal layovers (> 4 hours): A (1 of 1 getting an EP phone agent to create 8+ hr layover)
  • Change itinerary at the layover point (using kiosk, app, or agent) to create an otherwise illegal layover: ??
  • Change itinerary at the beginning to add a layover point not permitted by the routing rules: ??
  • Change itinerary at a layover point to add another layover not permitted (either in terms of number of segments or routing rules) by the routing rules: ??
  • Change to a flight exactly 24 hours before or after the original flight: ??
  • Change to a flight exactly 24 hours before the original flight, if the previous day's flight has been delayed: Y (based on one report)
  • Combining separately-fared segments to do SDC (e.g. XXX-YYY+YYY-ZZZ -> XXX-ZZZ): ??
  • Change AA-codeshare, non-AA-metal segment to AA metal: ??
  • Change from AA metal to AA-codeshare, non-AA-metal segment: ??
  • Change from AA-codeshare, non-AA-metal segment to a different AA-codeshare, non-AA-metal segment: ??
  • Change on a non-AA ticketed segment: A* (see post 1017 & post 1018)
  • Change from an upgraded flight into Y on the new flight: A
  • Change from a CPU-upgraded flight and get confirmed into available space on the new flight: ??
  • Change from an instrument-upgraded flight and get confirmed into available space on the new flight: ??
  • Non-elite on different PNR benefiting from EXP's waived-fee SDC: ??
  • SDFC on an award: ??
Link to archive thread of older posts.

ARCHIVE of AA FAQ and previous detail of SDFC:
Wayback Machine, 5 captures, 22 Jan 14 - 10 Apr 15
Link

Same-Day Flight Change Terms and Conditions
  • Same-Day Flight Change is only available on flights operated and marketed by American Airlines, or marketed by American Airlines and operated by American Eagle or American Connection® carriers
    • Same-Day Flight Change will be offered to eligible passengers beginning 24 hours prior to departure through the check-in window. Eligibility shall be determined based on, but not limited to, the following factors: AAdvantage or oneworld® elite status membership, purchased fare class, ticketing status and purchase history
      • Same-Day Flight Change is subject to availability of eligible inventory
        • Same-Day Flight Change is non-transferable
          • Passengers who purchase Same-Day Flight Change and are unable to use it due to an involuntary routing change, flight cancellation, or missed connection due to a late incoming flight are eligible for a refund. The refund will be automatically initiated by American Airlines on the passenger's behalf.
            • Passengers who are late for a flight for reasons other than those listed above are not eligible for a refund of the Same-Day Flight Change
              • Passengers that have purchased a Same-Day Flight Change will not receive a refund if the price decreases, nor incur a charge if the price increases
                • Any refund request will be fully refunded, or denied. There will be no partial refunds of a Same-Day Flight Change.
                  • Refunds of Same-Day Flight Change will be made to the original form of payment
                    • Purchases made in cash will be refunded via check
                      • Refund requests must be received within 365 days of the original Same-Day Flight Change purchase
                        • Same-Day Flight Change reservations are subject to cancellation unless passengers have checked in and obtained a boarding pass within the check-in window. Passengers must be present at the departure gate and ready to board at least 15 minutes prior to scheduled departure time to retain their reservations.
                          • American Airlines expressly reserves the right in its absolute discretion to discontinue Same-Day Flight Change at any time. American Airlines will not be liable for any loss or damage suffered by a purchaser resulting from such refusal, cancellation or denial
                            • American Airlines reserves the right to remove any passenger for inappropriate behavior, including, but not limited to, conduct that is disruptive, abusive or violent. Such passengers will not be entitled to a refund.
                              • American Airlines reserves the right to move any passenger from any seat for operational or security reasons. This includes passengers who do not meet exit row eligibility requirements. If a passenger is involuntarily moved to a different flight for such reasons, the passenger may request a refund of the Same-Day Flight Change at aa.com/refunds


Same-Day Standby Terms and Conditions
  • Same-Day Standby is only available on flights operated and marketed by American Airlines, or marketed by American Airlines and operated by American Eagle or American Connection® carriers
    • AAdvantage regular members and non-members may only use Same-Day Standby if Same-Day Flight Change is not available
      • Same-Day Standby will be offered to eligible passengers beginning 24 hours prior to departure through the check-in window. Eligibility shall be determined based on, but not limited to, the following factors: AAdvantage or oneworld® elite status membership, purchased fare class, ticketing status, origin and destination, and purchase history
        • AAdvantage regular members and non-members using Same-Day Standby may only stand by for an earlier flight with the same routing on the day of travel
          • Same-Day Standby is subject to availability of eligible inventory
            • Same-Day Standby is non-transferable
              • Passengers who purchase Same-Day Standby and are unable to use it due to lack of available inventory, cancellation of standby flight, or involuntary routing change are eligible for a refund. The refund will be automatically initiated by American Airlines on the passenger's behalf once the passenger completes travel on their ticketed itinerary.
                • Passengers that have purchased a Same-Day Standby will not receive a refund if the price decreases, nor incur a charge if the price increases
                  • Any refund request will be fully refunded, or denied. There will be no partial refunds of a Same-Day Standby.
                    • Refunds of Same-Day Standby will be made to the original form of payment
                      • Purchases made in cash will be refunded via check
                        • Refund requests must be received within 365 days of the original Same-Day Standby purchase
                          • Same-Day Standby requests are subject to cancellation unless passengers have checked in and obtained a boarding pass within the check-in window. Passengers must be present at the departure gate and ready to board at least 15 minutes prior to scheduled departure time to retain their reservations.
                            • American Airlines expressly reserves the right in its absolute discretion to discontinue Same-Day Standby at any time. American Airlines will not be liable for any loss or damage suffered by a purchaser resulting from such refusal, cancellation or denial
                              • American Airlines reserves the right to remove any passenger for inappropriate behavior, including, but not limited to, conduct that is disruptive, abusive or violent. Such passengers will not be entitled to a refund.
                                • American Airlines reserves the right to move any passenger from any seat for operational or security reasons. This includes passengers who do not meet exit row eligibility requirements. If a passenger is involuntarily moved to a different flight for such reasons, the passenger may request a refund of the Same-Day Standby at aa.com/refunds
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Old May 14, 19, 12:27 pm
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Originally Posted by rumboj View Post


Whether the other main carriers view it is abuse is really irrelevant to whether AA views it as abuse. The reality is, even several months out, it is quite common for AA to sell flights with connections that are cheaper than those without. Airlines monetize flights without connections because there is significant value there. Having a policy that openly allows changing to a routing without connections invites people to avail themselves of the preferred routing without being subject to the change fee and fare difference. Just look at the excitement in this forum when someone reports a schedule change and the first reply is always: “Now, you can get your preferred routing easily!”
Sure, but why not just implement a DL-style policy of "can't change connection to nonstop" (e.g., on DL you can switch from JFK-DTW-DEN to JFK-MSP-DEN, but not to JFK-DEN nonstop) rather than this "same exact routing" nonsense?
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Originally Posted by pa3lsvt View Post
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I politely showed her that EF was showing E space and that as a PPro I should be eligible for SDC. ...
Just be aware that from June last year, E availability is no longer definitive in being able to SDC (although it is still a good indicator).

See the Wiki at the top of the thread or here: Guide: New SDFC / Same Day Flight Change Restrictions 8 Jun 2018
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Old May 16, 19, 12:40 pm
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Is there a strategy to getting an agent to allow a SDFC to a connection of more than 4 hours? I keep getting told that it is "against my fare rules." I have HUCA'd twice. Should I keep trying or is there something specific I should request?

I'd like to go meet some friends for lunch in Dallas tomorrow.
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Old May 16, 19, 3:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Red Raider LV View Post
Is there a strategy to getting an agent to allow a SDFC to a connection of more than 4 hours? I keep getting told that it is "against my fare rules." I have HUCA'd twice. Should I keep trying or is there something specific I should request?

I'd like to go meet some friends for lunch in Dallas tomorrow.
It is in fact against the rules.

But—I would SDC to any flight with an under-four hr connection that has the Segment 1 you want. Then, once you get to DFW, I'd attempt to change the second segment. Even if they can't SDFC, I strongly suspect they'd put you on standby.
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Old May 16, 19, 6:48 pm
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It is in fact against the rules.

But—I would SDC to any flight with an under-four hr connection that has the Segment 1 you want. Then, once you get to DFW, I'd attempt to change the second segment. Even if they can't SDFC, I strongly suspect they'd put you on standby.
Thanks, and that makes a lot of sense, problem is I want to get to DFW early. I'm cool with my onward connection, it's the only nonstop to YUL, so I can't really move it.

I've been told to show up at the airport and standby for the earlier flight (more than 4hr) to DFW. It's wide open, so I'm not worried about snagging a seat, I just don't want to be left in the cold.
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Old May 20, 19, 9:51 pm
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question i have a flight tmw via a LAX-DFW-ORD booked in paid F


LAX to DFW - 6:05 AM arrives 11:14 AM
DFW to ORD - 12:10 PM arrives 2:29 PM

I called AA to see if i could do a same day change for an earlier flight for just the first segment and keep my second segment she said two things that made no sense to me.
1) Only have couch available and because of this you need to pay a change fee plus fare difference
2) You cannot have that long of a connection it breaks the rules. The earlier flight was either 12:30 or 1:30 AM.

I've never heard of these rules is this rep just super mistaken in life or am i?

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Old May 20, 19, 10:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Amil View Post
question i have a flight tmw via a LAX-DFW-ORD booked in paid F


LAX to DFW - 6:05 AM arrives 11:14 AM
DFW to ORD - 12:10 PM arrives 2:29 PM

I called AA to see if i could do a same day change for an earlier flight for just the first segment and keep my second segment she said two things that made no sense to me.
1) Only have couch available and because of this you need to pay a change fee plus fare difference
2) You cannot have that long of a connection it breaks the rules. The earlier flight was either 12:30 or 1:30 AM.

I've never heard of these rules is this rep just super mistaken in life or am i?
To do a same-day confirmed change with an F ticket, you need the same booking inventory (so if your ticket is an I ticket, there needs to be I inventory, etc.). Both the 00:35 and 01:40 flights for tomorrow (21 May) are sold out in first anyways.

Second, domestic connections in general need to be under 4 hours. I have seen other accounts where others were denied a SDFC because it created a connection longer than 4 hours. I guess that makes sense since technically there's an additional $5.60 security fee when a connection is longer than 4 hours.
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Old May 20, 19, 10:16 pm
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but with standby I can change to coach? i think its ridiculous that i cant even downgrade myself .
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but with standby I can change to coach? i think its ridiculous that i cant even downgrade myself .
You might be able to standby for coach at the airport.

I'm not sure what is so "ridiculous" about the fact that you should in general fly the flight that you booked in the cabin that you booked. Most airlines outside of the US don't even allow free standby, let alone free confirmed flight changes. Here, you want not only to confirm a change to a different flight but also to confirm a change to a different cabin.

Of course, when compared to other US carriers, AA's same-day change policies are quite restrictive. But that's a different issue.


EDIT: I guess I'm curious. Why are you so keen to switch to the redeye? The DFW redeyes are miserable in my opinion.

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agreed and OT : Work Related.
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Will AA let you be creative with routing rules? I'm flying MIA-PHL and then PHL-GSO Monday on separate tickets. I currently arrive PHL at 4:45 PM and don't leave until 9:45 PM. There's both a PHL-DCA-GSO and a PHL-CLT-GSO routing that would get me home early. Worth a shot?
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Will AA let you be creative with routing rules? I'm flying MIA-PHL and then PHL-GSO Monday on separate tickets. I currently arrive PHL at 4:45 PM and don't leave until 9:45 PM. There's both a PHL-DCA-GSO and a PHL-CLT-GSO routing that would get me home early. Worth a shot?
Not with SDFC, though you might get an agent to do it if they are bored or something. Doubtful.
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