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FAQ: What's a Systemwide Upgrade / SWU / eVIP / VIP? (Master thread)
FAQ: What's a Systemwide Upgrade / SWU / eVIP / VIP? (Master thread)
ARCHIVE: SWU / VIP / eVIP Systemwide Upgrade questions
#46
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: SJC/VCE
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I have a long trip coming that includes: EZE=>MIA, MIA=>SJO=>MIA, MIA=>MAD. I was suposed to get an eVIP from a friend, eventually it did not work out. However- for a while (when I had the eVIP) I was put by Exec-Plat desk on waitlists for EZE=>MIA + MIA=>MAD (with MIA=>SJO=>MIA in between), and I was told 1 eVIP needed for Both upgrades.
It sounded too good to be true... but I cancelled the req before the waitlists cleared.
Was this according to rules? or just a mistaken agent and it would have not gone thru on 1 eVIP?
It sounded too good to be true... but I cancelled the req before the waitlists cleared.
Was this according to rules? or just a mistaken agent and it would have not gone thru on 1 eVIP?
Certainly, EZE-MIA-MAD on one eVIP is legal.
#47
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: CA & Europe
Programs: AA Life-Plat 5MM, HH Diamond, IHG Plat, UA, BA
Posts: 738
I never asked for upgrades to/from SJO, MIA=>SJO was already requested for upgrade with stickers (somehow it is considered domestic), and SJO=>MIA was originally in biz (I-class). But I am staying 8 days in Costa Rica, it is 9 days between the EZE=>MIA and MIA=>MAD that I was told can be upgraded on 1 eVIP.
#48
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Smellington, NZ
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, UA 2P, Marriott LTPP
Posts: 1,453
I applied an eVIP on a domestic only itinerary. This booked into "A" inventory. However, I did not get the expected Q points or miles bonus associated with "A" inventory (+ 50%). Are the rules for "A" class different when using an eVIP?
#49
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Programs: AA 1.5 MM Exec Plat, WN A-List, DL Silver, UA nonrev
Posts: 2,593
http://flyerguide.com/wiki/index.php...igibility_(AA)
The bonus on A fares refer to PURCHASED fares, not upgraded
#50
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Smellington, NZ
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, UA 2P, Marriott LTPP
Posts: 1,453
Makes sense. Thanks for the quick reply.
#51
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: No longer loyal "over-entitled" 1K
Posts: 3,822
I tried to search but due to my lack of knowledge on how AA VIPs work, I cannot seem to find the answer I'm seeking.
I'll be flying A-B-C.
A-B is a domestic flight while B-C is a TPAC.
There is A inventory on A-B sector but no C inventory on B-C sector.
When using a VIP to upgrade, do A-B clears first while B-C is waitlisted or do they need to clear at the same time?
I'll be flying A-B-C.
A-B is a domestic flight while B-C is a TPAC.
There is A inventory on A-B sector but no C inventory on B-C sector.
When using a VIP to upgrade, do A-B clears first while B-C is waitlisted or do they need to clear at the same time?
#52
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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I tried to search but due to my lack of knowledge on how AA VIPs work, I cannot seem to find the answer I'm seeking.
I'll be flying A-B-C.
A-B is a domestic flight while B-C is a TPAC.
There is A inventory on A-B sector but no C inventory on B-C sector.
When using a VIP to upgrade, do A-B clears first while B-C is waitlisted or do they need to clear at the same time?
I'll be flying A-B-C.
A-B is a domestic flight while B-C is a TPAC.
There is A inventory on A-B sector but no C inventory on B-C sector.
When using a VIP to upgrade, do A-B clears first while B-C is waitlisted or do they need to clear at the same time?
#53
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Orange County, CA
Programs: AA LT PLT, DL PLT, HH DIA, IHG PLT, Hertz PLT, Bonvoy GLD, Avis Pres Club
Posts: 1,265
Technical ? about usage of eVip
Let's say someone I know has an eVip that I want to use.
Can this person actually transfer an eVip to my AAdvantage account, or does the eVip holder have to actually apply the eVip to my prebooked itnerary?
Or is there some other option I'm not thinking of?
Can this person actually transfer an eVip to my AAdvantage account, or does the eVip holder have to actually apply the eVip to my prebooked itnerary?
Or is there some other option I'm not thinking of?
#54
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: OKC/DFW
Programs: AA EXP/2 MM
Posts: 9,999
No.
Yes.
None of which I'm aware.
None of which I'm aware.
#55
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: SAT
Programs: AA EXP BA Gold, TK Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, AS 100K, QR PLT, SAS Gold, IHG Spire, AMR
Posts: 5,898
All the owner has to do is call AA give them your locator and segments to be upgraded and you are done. Takes 5 minutes
#56
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: SFO/OAK
Programs: AA EXP 3.4MM, BAEC, UAMP, Skyteam (<10k) HH Gold, IHG Plat, Hertz Gold, GE/TSA TT
Posts: 2,723
p.s. you can also make a reservation, put it on hold, and then have the eVIP applied to your name/PNR before you buy the ticket. The holder has to call the EXP line to apply the eVIP.
p.p.s. if suitable "A" or "C" inventory (i.e. upgrades) is available for the flights you have selected, the eVIP can "kick in" immediately, and you can select seats in Biz class or First cabins right away. If inventory is not available, you will have to be on the upgrade waitlist until upgrade inventory becomes available for your flights.
p.p.s. if suitable "A" or "C" inventory (i.e. upgrades) is available for the flights you have selected, the eVIP can "kick in" immediately, and you can select seats in Biz class or First cabins right away. If inventory is not available, you will have to be on the upgrade waitlist until upgrade inventory becomes available for your flights.
#57
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
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If that - it is seamless, easy and quick. I have never had any difficulty with the process. (Then again, I have never sold, bartered or traded a VIP / SWU. )
#58
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Finally back in Boston after escaping from New York
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Question about eVIP that only clears on 1 segment
So I'm going to be flying BOS-ORD-DEL and am trying to use an eVIP to upgrade. ORD-DEL and the return have 16 seats left in J, so I'm not too worried, but just in case...
What happens in a scenario where the BOS-ORD portion clears and ORD-DEL never does? Is there any good way to prevent this? Obviously, I want to get myself on the list as soon as I book, but I'd hate to waste an eVIP that only clears on the first segment.
Thanks,
Mike
What happens in a scenario where the BOS-ORD portion clears and ORD-DEL never does? Is there any good way to prevent this? Obviously, I want to get myself on the list as soon as I book, but I'd hate to waste an eVIP that only clears on the first segment.
Thanks,
Mike
#59
Join Date: Nov 2008
Programs: AA EXP 3MM
Posts: 1,773
However, I know it is possible to override the system before going to airport control (as it always is) since I got an EXP AAngel to do it once when I "accidently" upgraded my wife (GLD) and it cleared on a flight she didn't want the upgrade.
#60
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Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Benicia CA
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