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FAQ: What's a Systemwide Upgrade / SWU / eVIP / VIP? (Master thread)
FAQ: What's a Systemwide Upgrade / SWU / eVIP / VIP? (Master thread)
ARCHIVE: SWU / VIP / eVIP Systemwide Upgrade questions
#16
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: OKC/DFW
Programs: AA EXP/2 MM
Posts: 9,999
I tell my [husband], "Going with the Accidental Tourist is like going in a cocoon."
#17
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 6
Systemwide eVIP Upgrade
I am traveling from Chicago to New Delhi in June and have requested VIP upgrade to business class. I am currently on waitlist for both ways. I understand that AA confirms upgrades on international sectors few days before the date of travel.
Does someone has experience with upgrades on this route?
How long before the flight will I be able to confirm the upgrade?
Does someone has experience with upgrades on this route?
How long before the flight will I be able to confirm the upgrade?
#18
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: DCA
Programs: AA DL
Posts: 110
C class
upgrades from coach to business book into "C" class. When C class availability (upgrade seat class availability) opens, your upgrade will clear. it could happen ANYTIME between now and the gate. The DEL routes are usually pretty packed with J and F cabin passengers because it is such a long flight.
Good Luck!
Good Luck!
#19
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: IST/DFW/GRU
Programs: AA EXP 0.8MM, Skyward, SPG Gold
Posts: 171
There is no telling when the upgrade will be processed. You'll have to play the waiting game. A subscription to ExpertFlyer might give you some idea on how booked business is.
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#20
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: DFW
Programs: PLAT -- 2.7Million
Posts: 2,051
ORD-DEL 09 Apr: Upgrades (2 of us travelling) cleared at ticketing, about 3 weeks in advance, thanks to my subscription to ExpertFlyer (my travel dates were flexible, so I picked a date w/ C availability).
DEL-ORD 20 Apr: Upgrades cleared the day before.
At DEL on 20 Apr an AAgent later told me that BIZ was overbooked! I offered to move into First if necessary. Didn't happen. But w/ the NGBC, ahhhhhh!!! So nice!!
DEL-ORD 20 Apr: Upgrades cleared the day before.
At DEL on 20 Apr an AAgent later told me that BIZ was overbooked! I offered to move into First if necessary. Didn't happen. But w/ the NGBC, ahhhhhh!!! So nice!!
#21
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 6
Thanks to everyone who responded. I checked on AA.com and it is selling biz class seats for those dates. Does that mean that there is availability? I know airlines generally overbook so not sure how can one tell the availability. I am not a regular flyer so may be asking very basic questions.
#23
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: LAX; AA EXP, MM; HH Gold
Posts: 31,789
AA will upgrade people when it is confident that it will not sell that seat for a business class fare. There's no way to predict when that will happen for you. Your upgrade will clear when (and if) it clears.
Generally, AA does not oversell business class.
#24
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Location: NYC
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#25
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Location: Benicia CA
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Pretty much like
http://seatcounter.com/
except it shows hidden fares classes. It also allows you to save transactions under one of the pricing plans. A lot of this should be covered on the free part of the site.
They'll give you a free trial if you e-mail and you can look yourself.
http://seatcounter.com/
except it shows hidden fares classes. It also allows you to save transactions under one of the pricing plans. A lot of this should be covered on the free part of the site.
They'll give you a free trial if you e-mail and you can look yourself.
#26
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: OKC/DFW
Programs: AA EXP/2 MM
Posts: 9,999
It's very simple and easy to navigate, even for a non-techie like me.
EF shows flight availability and upgrade availability and much more. Just go to expertflyer.com and give it a try. You'll want to look for C availability on your flights.
They offer a 5 day trial membership, free of charge. After that membership can be purchased for either $4.99 for basic or $9.99 for premium service on month to month basis.
Edited to add: Well, I see the question has already been answered, but I worked so hard typing my post I'm ging to leave it.
EF shows flight availability and upgrade availability and much more. Just go to expertflyer.com and give it a try. You'll want to look for C availability on your flights.
They offer a 5 day trial membership, free of charge. After that membership can be purchased for either $4.99 for basic or $9.99 for premium service on month to month basis.
Edited to add: Well, I see the question has already been answered, but I worked so hard typing my post I'm ging to leave it.
#27
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: LAX; AA EXP, MM; HH Gold
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I agree with you - sometimes J will be oversold.
I just wanted to clarify for taru_komila that generally, AA doesn't oversell J. Sometimes they do.
#28
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: AAdvantage, Hilton
Posts: 3,191
On my last return from DEL, AA's premium coordinator, whom I met in person at check-in and spoke to at length, informed me that all three cabins were oversold that evening. A few days earlier, when I was speaking to the EXP desk, they had informed me that as of that moment J was oversold by five.
As it is, on this specific evening, the flight departed with one empty seat in F and two empty seats in J -- this despite having an upgrade list that went into double digits. This is chaos that is simply DEL.
#29
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: China
Programs: UA,DL,CZ
Posts: 860
use evip to upgrade from economy to first
Is it OK to use two evip to upgrade from economy to first class? I did not find answer in the t&c of the evip.
#30
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: NY
Programs: AA Plat 1MM, IC RA, HH Gold
Posts: 2,791
If the next class of service after economy is first, then yes but if it is business, then no. They can only be used to upgrade to the next class of service.