ARCHIVE: Airport Upgrade and Standby Priority List (“PALL”) Order (master thread)
Nov 16, 2011, 9:38 am
#152
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Also forgot to mention that it would be very wise to set up an EF alert for C inventory as well. I've recently read well-informed detail about how upgrades are processed close in, and it seems that things stop happening automagically for a while and any C inventory that may appear will just sit there, ready to be snapped up. If you set up an alert, and you're notified, call up the number on the back of your Gold card and ask if they can process the upgrade immediately.
Nov 16, 2011, 9:58 am
#154
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Most of this thread pretty clearly explains where check-in time is important.
eg
It doesn't matter when you get added to the list, it matters when you checked in, so if you check in 24 hours before, you can wait until you get to the airport to be added to the list, and your check-in timestamp should slot you in to the upgrade waitlist based on the original check-in time. Upgrades aren't processed off the PALL list until the flight goes to the gate, so there's no benefit to being on it 24 hours early vs. 6 hours vs. 3 hours.
Nov 16, 2011, 9:58 am
#155
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Your understanding is correct for sticker-eligible flights. It is not correct for international flights where stickers cannot be used. On such flights, upgrades are sorted by elite status, originating/connecting status, and check-in time. For example, an originating Gold flying ORD-LHR who checks in 24 hours before his flight will be in front of other Golds on the same flight who check in closer to departure time.
Nov 16, 2011, 11:24 am
#156
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Your understanding is correct for sticker-eligible flights. It is not correct for international flights where stickers cannot be used. On such flights, upgrades are sorted by elite status, originating/connecting status, and check-in time. For example, an originating Gold flying ORD-LHR who checks in 24 hours before his flight will be in front of other Golds on the same flight who check in closer to departure time.
Jan 31, 2012, 8:53 pm
#157
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I am currently platinum waiting for my EXP to kick in from the MR's i've just done. More than likely, this won't happen until at least next week. My question is, I have a flight on Feb 16th that I would like to request an upgrade on. Obviously, without being EXP, it would cost me 500-mile vouchers. If I were to put in an upgrade request right now, using those vouchers, and then I become EXP, would i be able to cancel that 500 mile upgrade request, keep my vouchers, and still keep my place in line for the upgrade? I can't find an example if this situation anywhere. Thank you.
Jan 31, 2012, 9:22 pm
#158
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I am currently platinum waiting for my EXP to kick in from the MR's i've just done. More than likely, this won't happen until at least next week. My question is, I have a flight on Feb 16th that I would like to request an upgrade on. Obviously, without being EXP, it would cost me 500-mile vouchers. If I were to put in an upgrade request right now, using those vouchers, and then I become EXP, would i be able to cancel that 500 mile upgrade request, keep my vouchers, and still keep my place in line for the upgrade? I can't find an example if this situation anywhere. Thank you.
Feb 2, 2012, 12:06 pm
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This seems like the best place for a question regarding PALL list and application at the gate:
In this situation, who is supposed to get the last F-seat on a domestic flight (in my case NYC-DFW)
1. Standby for NYC-DFW on a "Z" ticket (first-class saver award) ticketed NYC-XXX-DFW,
2. Upgrades with "stickers" from whatever status
The gate agent claimed that a voluntary standby on a first-class ticket is behind a UPG and only offered economy after clearing the last upgrader, and I want to make sure I understood the proper order.
Thanks in advance.
In this situation, who is supposed to get the last F-seat on a domestic flight (in my case NYC-DFW)
1. Standby for NYC-DFW on a "Z" ticket (first-class saver award) ticketed NYC-XXX-DFW,
2. Upgrades with "stickers" from whatever status
The gate agent claimed that a voluntary standby on a first-class ticket is behind a UPG and only offered economy after clearing the last upgrader, and I want to make sure I understood the proper order.
Thanks in advance.
Last edited by TxH2O; Feb 2, 2012 at 12:12 pm Reason: Grammar
Feb 2, 2012, 12:17 pm
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I am currently platinum waiting for my EXP to kick in from the MR's i've just done. More than likely, this won't happen until at least next week. My question is, I have a flight on Feb 16th that I would like to request an upgrade on. Obviously, without being EXP, it would cost me 500-mile vouchers. If I were to put in an upgrade request right now, using those vouchers, and then I become EXP, would i be able to cancel that 500 mile upgrade request, keep my vouchers, and still keep my place in line for the upgrade? I can't find an example if this situation anywhere. Thank you.
When the time comes for your flight, they will see you are EXP and no stickers, OBVIOUSLY, will be deducted from your account.
The Check Here To Request Upgrade is not contingent on your status at the time you do it.
As a matter of fact, when your ("Fake") -
- EXP status does go through, it will move you up on the UG list.
Feb 2, 2012, 12:55 pm
#161
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Just request your upgrade. You should have done it earlier.
When the time comes for your flight, they will see you are EXP and no stickers, OBVIOUSLY, will be deducted from your account.
The Check Here To Request Upgrade is not contingent on your status at the time you do it.
As a matter of fact, when your ("Fake") - - EXP status does go through, it will move you up on the UG list.
When the time comes for your flight, they will see you are EXP and no stickers, OBVIOUSLY, will be deducted from your account.
The Check Here To Request Upgrade is not contingent on your status at the time you do it.
As a matter of fact, when your ("Fake") -
- EXP status does go through, it will move you up on the UG list.Last edited by sukn; Feb 2, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Feb 2, 2012, 8:52 pm
#162
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Dropped from airport UG list -why?
This has happened two or three times, ideas as to why?
Arrived DFW this evening, AC confirmed I first on UG list to PSP. Wandered down to gate a few minutes before boarding, I'm not on monitor. GA puts me on list, and the UG clears last minute. What causes this?
Arrived DFW this evening, AC confirmed I first on UG list to PSP. Wandered down to gate a few minutes before boarding, I'm not on monitor. GA puts me on list, and the UG clears last minute. What causes this?
Feb 2, 2012, 8:59 pm
#163
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This seems like the best place for a question regarding PALL list and application at the gate:
In this situation, who is supposed to get the last F-seat on a domestic flight (in my case NYC-DFW)
1. Standby for NYC-DFW on a "Z" ticket (first-class saver award) ticketed NYC-XXX-DFW,
2. Upgrades with "stickers" from whatever status
The gate agent claimed that a voluntary standby on a first-class ticket is behind a UPG and only offered economy after clearing the last upgrader, and I want to make sure I understood the proper order.
Thanks in advance.
In this situation, who is supposed to get the last F-seat on a domestic flight (in my case NYC-DFW)
1. Standby for NYC-DFW on a "Z" ticket (first-class saver award) ticketed NYC-XXX-DFW,
2. Upgrades with "stickers" from whatever status
The gate agent claimed that a voluntary standby on a first-class ticket is behind a UPG and only offered economy after clearing the last upgrader, and I want to make sure I understood the proper order.
Thanks in advance.
Feb 9, 2012, 11:06 am
#164
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So the best strategy is to do OLCI at 24 hours out (for Golds) AND arrive at the airport 3 hours ahead of time to request again?
Feb 9, 2012, 1:50 pm
#165
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The statement you quoted probably made sense when it was made in 2006, but things have changed.