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Originally Posted by ty97
(Post 37671839)
Thanks for sharing. Did you notice if Touchless Pre-Check was open?
The agent pointed out that one should only check in by one's app on one's phone. I said: "How stupid of me. I won't let it happen again". Agent offered a mechanism whereby we would go to the airport checkin counter and ask agent to "uncheck" us in, re-do the checkin, and hope/pray we have the contactless marker on the boarding passes. Caveat was that we might well lose our assigned F seats (2A,2B) by going this route. I asked if we were the first one's enduring this glitch. She said no. Lots of complaints. |
Originally Posted by ty97
(Post 37671839)
Thanks for sharing. Did you notice if Touchless Pre-Check was open?
And anecdotally took me about ~50 minutes to get through the Pre-Check line starting at around ~5:00am. The most difficult part was honestly figuring out where the tail-end of the line was, but at least everyone seemed civil and line following for the most part. |
Flying out of JFK tomorrow and have read lot of conflicting reports on what to expect for security. EXP in Intl J (flagship) is there any benefit to using the dedicated checkin area? Or am I just going to get thrown in regular precheck line anyway? No bags to check, I do have touchless TSA.
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Got in line around 5:45am this morning (Saturday) for TSA Pre, took ~60 minutes to get through. It was orderly, to the extent these long lines can be. Several American-uniformed (I think) agents in the lobby helping answer questions, such as the most common question (which was my question too) about how to find the end of the correct security line. Very professional and thumbs up to those folks working what can't be an easy job right now. They helped to smooth the process and address some of the confusion in the lobby.
Numerous people playing dumb to try and cut into the TSA Pre line, fellow passengers not falling for it, directed each of them to the back of the line (nobody was rude about anything, but nobody was getting played this morning either) Touchless was open, but the split of the TSA pre-line to 'regular Pre-check' and 'Touchless Pre-check' occurs after you've waited through the winding line in the lobby. So everyone with Pre-check (Touchless or not) is in basically the same boat at T8. It did not look like anyone was able to enter the TSA Pre-check line from the business/first premium check-in, or at least I did not see it occur. I only checked briefly though, so I can't speak with certainty. Listening to the employees working the lobby, it sounded like the lines can vary widely by day and time, all dependent on staffing levels at given time which is an unpredictable right now. Therefore, the wait times are also unpredictable. The general line snaked back and forth throughout the entire lobby. I have no idea how long that took, though they (logically) had more general lanes than Pre-check lanes so hopefully the general wait times were not excessively worse. |
Originally Posted by ty97
(Post 37673373)
Listening to the employees working the lobby, it sounded like the lines can vary widely by day and time, all dependent on staffing levels at given time which is an unpredictable right now. Therefore, the wait times are also unpredictable. |
You can more easily access the touchless precheck line by using the path through the flagship check in area.
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Originally Posted by diaspora04
(Post 37673509)
You can more easily access the touchless precheck line by using the path through the flagship check in area.
Hoping that this all gets resolved with the release of funds to pay TSA salaries. But just curious: I assume they are using same established criteria for accessing Premium Check-in area? I am EP in J on JFK-LAX so am NOT entitled to Premium Check-in. Have they in any way changed these rules? In my experience, the "bouncers" at the Premium Check-in area are very rigid and, even when they are mistaken regarding access, do not even allow discussion. |
Originally Posted by diaspora04
(Post 37673509)
You can more easily access the touchless precheck line by using the path through the flagship check in area.
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Arrived at 7 AM to T8, precheck line was snaking out toward the business bag drop area past a few ticket desks to the left and then back out toward the front doors. Took me about an hour to get through. The line for everyone else seemed to go all the way around the ticket desks (toward the bathrooms all the way on the left) and back to the entrances, so much longer.
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Answering a few of my questions in case it helps anyone else. The priority checkin access to security is open. From where it dumped me in the precheck line, it was 10-15 minutes through security. I arrived long enough before the Europe rush (~2:30) that it probably only saved me a another 10 minutes, but could be a lifesaver later on. TSA touchless precheck line was closed.
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Originally Posted by ryanbriar
(Post 37673639)
That is correct (and works well), however that is assuming that Pre is open and they are using Touchless. My wife was told a few weeks ago that the machine wasn’t in operation because of the partial shutdown. Hopefully it is all resolved soon enough and we can return to the typical T8 experience.
However crews were also using the touchless line. Wonder how it’s going to be Monday morning, I’ll be going through around 7am |
I think the morning is the worst time. I was in line at 6:15 am for a 10 am flight but there were a lot of people that had afternoon flights in the line also. The media has cased the morning lines to be very long.
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Ended up with ~35 minutes on an I>D connection due to delays. TSA wasn’t lengthy at 10 pm (regular only), but a rep helped me get through, which saved my connection. I was on a mission to get through as fast as possible, but it looks like the latest F check-in funnels you back to the entryways for the various lines (Touchless, Pre, Regular) versus walking straight ahead to TSA (this may have also been where the sign was positioned given the time).
Originally Posted by JTK
(Post 37674636)
I think the morning is the worst time. I was in line at 6:15 am for a 10 am flight but there were a lot of people that had afternoon flights in the line also. The media has cased the morning lines to be very long.
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F check in really came in handy this morning.
Switched to the earlier BA flight instead of AA to LHR, so arrived at JFK at 5am, expecting at least 30min for security. Went through F check in, and one of the agents escorted me and another passenger to the touchless lane and instructed the guard to let us through. I didn't even have touchless because I'm on BA, but the machine still wasn't being used anyway. Easily saved 30+ min in the regular pre-check line, and I was in the Chelsea lounge less than 15 min after arriving curbside. |
Has the Term 8 priority Flagship security reopened? JFK
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