772 refits with the Flagship Suite
 

Has this been confirmed? Is there a timeline, considering they're not even able to reconfigure the 77Ws?

Thoughts, prayers or wishful thinking?

They did, however, manage to go fullyflat on the 763s.
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They're all ~25 years old, and are the oldest fleet on average (just beating out the 320s), so retirement is nearing, but they plan to refit them, but no timeline as to specifically when.

Was this news confirmed or just propagandAA?

The complete refit of 772s along with new WiFi service were confirmed during the Q3 earnings call.

Why don't they just buy new planes? Was the 763 dependability experiment not sufficient for them?

I can't find it in writing in any AA releases, but this is what was said on the AA earnings call:
I would consider that as confirmed as it can be at this stage, for any company.​​

Unofficial timeline found elsewhere is WiFi reconfig to Viasat starts Fall '26, interior after that. (My read on that is 'after the 77Ws are completed.' I would think that the 77E refit ROI is bumping up against the life expectancy of the frame.)
​​​You could possibly spin this as AA being cheap and not buying new 789/Xs, but I would think that AA is simultaneously so desperate for premium seats and in a financial bind that this has to happen. They screwed up their fleet plan so bad, new frames are years away, and still not on order. They're still kicking the can down the road, but it's a shinier can now.

Assuming this happens, the other 'when?' after a new WB order is 'when do they realize they need more MCE seats on the entire NB (and WB, too, for that matter) fleet?' And judging by the A319/320 refits evidently in progress, the answer is 'not yet.' /headdesk

It's also easier to be more flexible with older aircraft - fly the crap out of them in the summer, park them in the winter

As mentioned above, confirmed by AA. It was also leaked a while ago by a historically reliable source.

The 763s were retired 5 years ago. :confused:

AA's route map also doesn't benefit as much from increases in efficiency. JFK/PHL/CLT-Europe is short enough that the efficiency benefits of a new aircraft aren't greatly offset by the Capex.

I was making reference to keeping old planes in the fleet and their being saddled with delays and cancelations. Remember the 763 on Dallas to Amsterdam?

Except when they break down every day.

Well said.

Any idea of how many seats will be in each of the cabins?

They can run them 30+ years. Airframes are holding up VERY well. No need for capex expenditures when the cab use cash flow to pay down debt. DL has proven to the industry that the airframes last much longer than initially thought and in the case of the 772, UA is showing that the 772 is a beast! with a retrofit this will serve AA well (And its debt load)

plus, I believe new frames from the OEMs are years out.

It's a great concept. And it has served American so well. Could you please define their Flagship Business product? Imagine, project yourself in 2031. Could they bring out some MD80s to make us feel right at home?

I miss the mad dogs. 2 side in Y, and super quiet.