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jef787 Apr 5, 2025 9:59 pm

Proactive refunds typical?
 
On a recent AA-marketed itinerary, I missed my connection in Madrid after the AA-operated transatlantic leg and was rebooked into economy for the short European segment.

I was surprised to see the refund for the fare difference in my mailbox within a few days as I expected I'd need to file for that.

Is this the new norm? Related to having a European leg in the booking?

S80 Apr 5, 2025 10:00 pm


Originally Posted by jef787 (Post 37007693)
On a recent AA-marketed itinerary, I missed my connection in Madrid after the AA-operated transatlantic leg and was rebooked into economy for the short European segment.

I was surprised to see the refund for the fare difference in my mailbox within a few days as I expected I'd need to file for that.

Is this the new norm? Related to having a European leg in the booking?

New DOT ruling requires it to be automatic.

jef787 Apr 5, 2025 10:03 pm

Ah - I see. Thanks, S80

The detail:
https://www.transportation.gov/brief...ic-refund-rule

FlyingEgghead Apr 5, 2025 11:26 pm

I don't see that the linked DOT rule applies in OP's situation. The mention there of "downgraded to a lower class of service" is in the case of not accepting the changed itinerary. It says: "You are not entitled to a refund if you accept a rebooked flight with the airline or continue with a significantly changed itinerary."

AA might be over-complying by also automating partial refunds for accepted downgrades. But then the $64k question is: Was the refund based on the price of Y at the time of the original booking, or the last-minute Y fare?

jef787 Apr 5, 2025 11:54 pm

Refund was ~$250, which looks to be about typical for a week-out booking MAD-ZRH on IB.

S80 Apr 6, 2025 8:23 am


Originally Posted by FlyingEgghead (Post 37007764)
I don't see that the linked DOT rule applies in OP's situation. The mention there of "downgraded to a lower class of service" is in the case of not accepting the changed itinerary. It says: "You are not entitled to a refund if you accept a rebooked flight with the airline or continue with a significantly changed itinerary."

AA might be over-complying by also automating partial refunds for accepted downgrades. But then the $64k question is: Was the refund based on the price of Y at the time of the original booking, or the last-minute Y fare?

I didn't think about that, or read the regulation, before commenting. I'd say this over-compliance is good though - maybe they're combining the DOT automatic and EU261 rules?


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