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ditchdigger68 Jan 4, 2025 2:57 pm

We are trying to reserve a flight to Kona from KSAT for my brother’s celebration of life , but can’t seem to find out a reasonable way to pay for the flight with points from Amex. Anyone here got any savvy on this? Thx in advance.

And, we are also going to be a bit later trying to do the same for a flight to Dublin, Ireland using same payment method. TIA, Mike

S80 Jan 4, 2025 3:01 pm


Originally Posted by ditchdigger68 (Post 36787665)
We are trying to reserve a flight to Kona from KSAT for my brother’s celebration of life , but can’t seem to find out a reasonable way to pay for the flight with points from Amex. Anyone here got any savvy on this? Thx in advance.

Welcome to Flyertalk and sorry to hear about your loss.

The most reliable way is to book via Amex travel at 1cpp. You can also look at booking via BA with Avios, although availability is rare.

guv1976 Jan 4, 2025 4:30 pm


Originally Posted by ditchdigger68 (Post 36787665)
We are trying to reserve a flight to Kona from KSAT for my brother’s celebration of life , but can’t seem to find out a reasonable way to pay for the flight with points from Amex. Anyone here got any savvy on this? Thx in advance.

Can you tell us your desired date(s) of travel, and the current cash cost for your flights? That will help to figure out whether it makes sense to transfer your MR points to a frequent-flyer program and attempt to get award tickets.

ditchdigger68 Jan 4, 2025 4:43 pm

Yessir! We have been checking with American, Delta Airlines. The best fare round trip is with American at about 500.00. Delta was a bit more than that and has a bag fee attached which has not been looked at. Flight is only about three weeks out on 1/31 which is why we are getting a bit antsy! TIA, Mike

javabytes Jan 4, 2025 5:00 pm


Originally Posted by S80 (Post 36787675)
You can also look at booking via BA with Avios, although availability is rare.

The more current route is Amex --> Hawaiian --> Alaska, tends to be much better than Avios redemptions with the recent devaluations.

guv1976 Jan 4, 2025 5:03 pm


Originally Posted by ditchdigger68 (Post 36787911)
Yessir! We have been checking with American, Delta Airlines. The best fare round trip is with American at about 500.00. Delta was a bit more than that and has a bag fee attached which has not been looked at. Flight is only about three weeks out on 1/31 which is why we are getting a bit antsy! TIA, Mike

AA charges for checked bags, too on that route -- unless one of the passengers holds a qualifying AA credit card, or has elite status in the AAdvantage program or in one of the other oneworld frequent-flyer programs. Checked bags are free on Southwest, but it looks like departures on January 31 would require two connections from SAT to KOA.

At this point, if you really want to use your Amex points, I don't think that you will do better than buying your tickets through Amex travel, and paying with your points.

Note: Since you are a new member of FlyerTalk, be aware that you are limited to just five posts during your first 24 hours.

S80 Jan 4, 2025 5:55 pm


Originally Posted by javabytes (Post 36787963)
The more current route is Amex --> Hawaiian --> Alaska, tends to be much better than Avios redemptions with the recent devaluations.

Agreed, however I went that way for a last minute transfer, setting up a new Hawaiian account, and it took over 2 days and several calls to Amex to get my accounts linked, and in that time the space disappeared. I did not know that OP didn't need to travel immediately when posting, hence stating the quickest setup and transfer time paths.

mang0 Jan 4, 2025 8:32 pm


Originally Posted by S80 (Post 36788064)
Agreed, however I went that way for a last minute transfer, setting up a new Hawaiian account, and it took over 2 days and several calls to Amex to get my accounts linked, and in that time the space disappeared. I did not know that OP didn't need to travel immediately when posting, hence stating the quickest setup and transfer time paths.

Oh interesting. My Hawaiian account setup/linking was instant through Amex. Was able to do the Amex > Hawaiian > Alaska transfer all in the span of minutes a few months ago. Was it a name discrepancy or they couldn't figure out what the issue was?

S80 Jan 4, 2025 8:43 pm


Originally Posted by mang0 (Post 36788336)
Oh interesting. My Hawaiian account setup/linking was instant through Amex. Was able to do the Amex > Hawaiian > Alaska transfer all in the span of minutes a few months ago. Was it a name discrepancy or they couldn't figure out what the issue was?

This was in mid-December - No name discrepancy, they just needed to verify / push it through. I think it was because it was a brand new account, there can be issues due to fraud. As always, ymmv, this is just the experience I had.

PHL May 30, 2025 10:05 am

The AMEX -> Hawaiian -> Alaska -> AA redemption is great for those with AMEX points. But be advised, I just noticed an alert on the AMEX redemption screen that as of 6/30/25, transfers from AMEX - Hawaiian will no longer be available.

PHL Jun 28, 2025 8:36 am

Friendly PSA - there's less than 48 hours left to launder some AMEX points into Hawaiian (and then transfer to Alaska) if you want to use them for AA (or any OneWorld) redemption!

ORDflyer92 Jun 28, 2025 4:20 pm


Originally Posted by PHL (Post 37117001)
The AMEX -> Hawaiian -> Alaska -> AA redemption is great for those with AMEX points. But be advised, I just noticed an alert on the AMEX redemption screen that as of 6/30/25, transfers from AMEX - Hawaiian will no longer be available.

wow, that’s unfortunate. Maybe a function of Hawaiian joining OW? Amex has become more and more oriented to Skyteam

hhdl Jun 28, 2025 5:32 pm


Originally Posted by ORDflyer92 (Post 37174523)
wow, that’s unfortunate. Maybe a function of Hawaiian joining OW? Amex has become more and more oriented to Skyteam

Alliance doesn't matter there. AS doesn't want Amex transfers, for whatever reason (the BofA deal prohibits it? Amex pays too low of a price for HA miles? AS would prefer using redemptions to Hawaii to sell BofA cards?)

Out of Amex's transfer partners, I count 4 SkyTeam, 4 Star, and 5 oneWorld (not counting HA, and that becomes 4 as well if you have IAG as one airline comparable to AFKL).


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