So much for "no change fees"

Old Sep 24, 23, 11:20 am
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So much for "no change fees"

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Old Sep 24, 23, 11:23 am
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Ummmm...I'm not getting your point? If you book a Basic Economy fare, you can't make changes. That's always been the case (there was a brief period at the beginning of COVID where they didn't enforce this). If you book a regular Main Cabin fare, as shown in your screen shot, there are no change fees.
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Old Sep 24, 23, 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by Aliquot
So much for "no change fees"
If you think the basic economy is a better value product that matches your travel needs, then by all means purchase it.

Otherwise...not sure what your point is?
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Old Sep 24, 23, 11:52 am
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Originally Posted by bse118
If you think the basic economy is a better value product that matches your travel needs, then by all means purchase it.

Otherwise...not sure what your point is?
Maybe the point is that $694 x 2 is less than $1,807 x 1. But that assumes that the fares will remain substantially the same if and when the OP has to change his dates and book a new ticket.
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Old Sep 24, 23, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by guv1976
Maybe the point is that $694 x 2 is less than $1,807 x 1. But that assumes that the fares will remain substantially the same if and when the OP has to change his dates and book a new ticket.
But even if that's the point, basic economy tickets come with other restrictions/limitations (including on mileage earning) beyond just the change limitation, not all of which are waived by status, that main cabin fares don't.
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Old Sep 24, 23, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by bse118
But even if that's the point, basic economy tickets come with other restrictions/limitations (including on mileage earning) beyond just the change limitation, not all of which are waived by status, that main cabin fares don't.
You're right about the reduced mileage earnings, but elite-status passengers get free advance seat selection, free MCE seats (for AAdvantage and some oneworld elites), free checked baggage, access to priority check-in desks, and priority boarding.
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Old Sep 24, 23, 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by GNRMatt
Ummmm...I'm not getting your point? If you book a Basic Economy fare, you can't make changes. That's always been the case (there was a brief period at the beginning of COVID where they didn't enforce this). If you book a regular Main Cabin fare, as shown in your screen shot, there are no change fees.
This is a lot different than an MC fare being $30-$100 more than a BE fare. Using your logic, AA could have always advertised they didn't have change fees as they've always (or at least as far back as I recall) offered flexible tickets, albeit way more expensive than a standard advanced purchase fare.

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Old Sep 24, 23, 4:02 pm
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Originally Posted by lowfareair
This is a lot different than an MC fare being $30-$100 more than a BE fare. Using your logic, AA could have always advertised they didn't have change fees as they've always (or at least as far back as I recall) offered flexible tickets, albeit way more expensive than a standard advanced purchase fare.

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"No change fees" is advertised for domestic travel. And there are no change fees for domestic travel, on any ticket. That doesn't mean that they don't sell unchangeable tickets as well. And it's no different than any other airline. This is a ridiculous complaint.

And, no, it's not the same as having no change fees only on some tickets. This is no change fee for any (domestic) ticket.
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Old Sep 24, 23, 4:14 pm
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No change fees for tickets that originate in the USA. As you noted in that screenshot, some tickets, such as Basic Economy fares, cannot be changed at all (other than by canceling them for a credit). But there is no fee to cancel. You just can't make changes to the existing booking.

However, tickets that originate overseas may have change fees in accordance with what is customary and what the market expects in each country (and what competitors and partners are doing).
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Old Sep 24, 23, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by lowfareair
This is a lot different than an MC fare being $30-$100 more than a BE fare. Using your logic, AA could have always advertised they didn't have change fees as they've always (or at least as far back as I recall) offered flexible tickets, albeit way more expensive than a standard advanced purchase fare.

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True, but we largely aren't seeing this happening. The BE to discount Y spread is on the order of tens to a few hundred.

I've never seen a BE to Y spread this large. I'd suspect that it will narrow soon once they rebalance inventory.
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler
. And it's no different than any other airline.
Thats not true.
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Old Sep 24, 23, 5:42 pm
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Originally Posted by guv1976
You're right about the reduced mileage earnings, but elite-status passengers get free advance seat selection, free MCE seats (for AAdvantage and some oneworld elites), free checked baggage, access to priority check-in desks, and priority boarding.
AA's Basic Economy is a much better deal for its Elites than the comparable products from the competition. It's the only carrier that I'll purchase this product on.

I'm curious what route the OP is pricing, or as suggested some imbalance in inventory. I've never seen a spread that big. Normally it is roughly equivalent to the spread between Main Cabin and Main Cabin Extra in my experience.
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Old Sep 24, 23, 5:53 pm
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Originally Posted by guv1976
You're right about the reduced mileage earnings, but elite-status passengers get free advance seat selection, free MCE seats (for AAdvantage and some oneworld elites), free checked baggage, access to priority check-in desks, and priority boarding.
Yes. But non-elites exist. Lots of them. And they buy basic economy too.

Point remains that the differences between BE and Main are more than just the change policy
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Old Sep 24, 23, 6:40 pm
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Yes. But non-elites exist. Lots of them. And they buy basic economy too.

Point remains that the differences between BE and Main are more than just the change policy
If having insurance that covers unforseen circumstances and a set plan, no changes is not a big issue - I don't think that there is $1100 of benefit that would justify purchase of Main Cabin over Basic Economy

It would be good to know what route this differential applied to
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Old Sep 24, 23, 7:03 pm
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If having insurance that covers unforseen circumstances and a set plan, no changes is not a big issue - I don't think that there is $1100 of benefit that would justify purchase of Main Cabin over Basic Economy

It would be good to know what route this differential applied to
Minor point: plenty of people travel without travel insurance.

More to the point: In general I agree with you here. But OP didn't title this "big price differential between BE and Main". They titled this "so much for no change fees". This isn't about change fees.

Most likely this is some inventory weirdness, like the cases when Premium Economy prices out cheaper than Main Cabin, because all the discount buckets have been sold. I can think of no reason why AA revenue management would want this big of a differential between BE and Main.
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