Reversing AA FFP Miles Accumulation and Credit to Another OneWorld Airline
#17
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I had made the full intention to credit to JL as its a qualifying oneworld flight. At least even if I could not get AA to reverse the mileage and apply to JL, I should not give up before trying all available options.
Otherwise, this is indeed a lesson to not book the AA codeshare (which I only did because I had a flight credit from a cancelled flight in the past). I would definitely lose some total mileage but in any way, its a learning experience that others in the forum can learn about whether reversing or remove mileage accrual is possible.
At first, I wanted to give up after the first call. However, others said to try directly with JL, in which I will move forward with. The fact that the AAgent gave me a non-answer to not deal with this issue, is unfair, even though my intentions (the boarding passes should indicate enough) were to credit to JL rather than AA. Any possible solution can be considered (and most people on FT who might be in this situation would definitely try this, if they didnt get the appropriate mileage).
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#18
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AA-marketed flights can be credited to JL or any AA-partner airlines. Its like me buying a AA-marketed or any other flight but operated by JL or another airline. These are still considered as oneworld flights as long as operating and marketing are in the oneworld alliance.
I had made the full intention to credit to JL as its a qualifying oneworld flight. At least even if I could not get AA to reverse the mileage and apply to JL, I should not give up before trying all available options.
Otherwise, this is indeed a lesson to not book the AA codeshare (which I only did because I had a flight credit from a cancelled flight in the past). I would definitely lose some total mileage but in any way, its a learning experience that others in the forum can learn about whether reversing or remove mileage accrual is possible.
At first, I wanted to give up after the first call. However, others said to try directly with JL, in which I will move forward with. The fact that the AAgent gave me a non-answer to not deal with this issue, is unfair, even though my intentions (the boarding passes should indicate enough) were to credit to JL rather than AA. Any possible solution can be considered (and most people on FT who might be in this situation would definitely try this, if they didnt get the appropriate mileage).
I had made the full intention to credit to JL as its a qualifying oneworld flight. At least even if I could not get AA to reverse the mileage and apply to JL, I should not give up before trying all available options.
Otherwise, this is indeed a lesson to not book the AA codeshare (which I only did because I had a flight credit from a cancelled flight in the past). I would definitely lose some total mileage but in any way, its a learning experience that others in the forum can learn about whether reversing or remove mileage accrual is possible.
At first, I wanted to give up after the first call. However, others said to try directly with JL, in which I will move forward with. The fact that the AAgent gave me a non-answer to not deal with this issue, is unfair, even though my intentions (the boarding passes should indicate enough) were to credit to JL rather than AA. Any possible solution can be considered (and most people on FT who might be in this situation would definitely try this, if they didnt get the appropriate mileage).
I think there are schemes which will not allow credit reversal - Flying Blue being one IIRC - but I don't know if AAdvantage is one. I suspect it is possible to reverse the credit though I note no-one has posted a positive confirmation. If it is, it's almost certainly rare enough that most agents and even supervisors won't have done it - which is why you are unfortunately having to HUACA until you get someone who has.
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Note I think OP should be able to get the AA credit reversed, and the miles credit to JL, because at least in the reasonable real, non-airline world that was obviously his intention so please don't think I'm saying AA is in the right on this in anyway.
But here's what I think might've happened here:
From what I understand there are actually two different places in the backend where your FF number goes in a record. So it's possible to have for example your BA number in there in one place, and your AA number in another place (something like booking using BA miles but putting your AA number in there for status benefits). I'm going to guess that when the OP changed his FF via QR, it only got changed in one place in the backend, despite it appearing to him that it was changed to his JL number.
But here's what I think might've happened here:
From what I understand there are actually two different places in the backend where your FF number goes in a record. So it's possible to have for example your BA number in there in one place, and your AA number in another place (something like booking using BA miles but putting your AA number in there for status benefits). I'm going to guess that when the OP changed his FF via QR, it only got changed in one place in the backend, despite it appearing to him that it was changed to his JL number.
#20
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Note I think OP should be able to get the AA credit reversed, and the miles credit to JL, because at least in the reasonable real, non-airline world that was obviously his intention so please don't think I'm saying AA is in the right on this in anyway.
But here's what I think might've happened here:
From what I understand there are actually two different places in the backend where your FF number goes in a record. So it's possible to have for example your BA number in there in one place, and your AA number in another place (something like booking using BA miles but putting your AA number in there for status benefits). I'm going to guess that when the OP changed his FF via QR, it only got changed in one place in the backend, despite it appearing to him that it was changed to his JL number.
But here's what I think might've happened here:
From what I understand there are actually two different places in the backend where your FF number goes in a record. So it's possible to have for example your BA number in there in one place, and your AA number in another place (something like booking using BA miles but putting your AA number in there for status benefits). I'm going to guess that when the OP changed his FF via QR, it only got changed in one place in the backend, despite it appearing to him that it was changed to his JL number.
#21
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AA-marketed flights can be credited to JL or any AA-partner airlines. Its like me buying a AA-marketed or any other flight but operated by JL or another airline. These are still considered as oneworld flights as long as operating and marketing are in the oneworld alliance.
I had made the full intention to credit to JL as its a qualifying oneworld flight. At least even if I could not get AA to reverse the mileage and apply to JL, I should not give up before trying all available options.
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I had made the full intention to credit to JL as its a qualifying oneworld flight. At least even if I could not get AA to reverse the mileage and apply to JL, I should not give up before trying all available options.
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It sounds like your FF number was put into the AA reservation when made through AA. You made changes at the QR ebd but not at the AA booking. It reads like the AA reservation would still have had the AA membership number and it was correctly credited there. Unless AA is prepared to reverse this transaction, then there is no point trying to claim to JL. If AA is prepared to cancel the credit , then indeed you can then request credit to JL
#22
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I have good news and an update!
After initially speaking to a normal AAgent, I got transferred to a supervisor! The supervisor noted that I was indeed able to reverse the flight credit and I specifically asked if I can "reverse the AA credit and then transfer over to JL's FFP #.
The supervisor said that that should be no problem, and she asked me for my JL FFP #. She then said that she would initiate the transfer process to credit from AA to JL! She specified that the process can take up to 2 weeks, and I should reach back to AA if I do not notice anything on JL's end. I have the LP and AA miles removed from my account information page as well.
Thank you to everyone that gave me suggestions, advice, and notes to avoid this mistake next time
After initially speaking to a normal AAgent, I got transferred to a supervisor! The supervisor noted that I was indeed able to reverse the flight credit and I specifically asked if I can "reverse the AA credit and then transfer over to JL's FFP #.
The supervisor said that that should be no problem, and she asked me for my JL FFP #. She then said that she would initiate the transfer process to credit from AA to JL! She specified that the process can take up to 2 weeks, and I should reach back to AA if I do not notice anything on JL's end. I have the LP and AA miles removed from my account information page as well.
Thank you to everyone that gave me suggestions, advice, and notes to avoid this mistake next time

Last edited by OWF_NYC_SIN; Sep 14, 23 at 6:38 pm