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HELP DESK: Will I Have Lounge Access? Which, Access, Rules (2023-24)

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HELP DESK: Lounge Access, Access Rules. Will I Have Lounge Access? (2020)
Please read this wiki carefully; some fine nuances exist.

Admirals Club lounges have reopened from the Covid closures, but not all Clubs have reopened, and hours have changed.
Link to aa.com Admirals Club, Flagship Lounge Access rules.
Also see Admirals Club rates increasing, new restrictions: 2019


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The Lounge Access Help Desk

To assist members with questions about Lounge Access Rules that they have not been able to answer on their own using the above resources, the AA Moderator team has decided to institute this thread, the third in a series of "Help Desk" threads. N.B.: If you have questions about physical access to a specific lounge (e.g., airside vs. landside, different terminal, etc.), please search for and post to the appropriate specific thread for that lounge.

New threads on this topic will be merged into this one and bumped by the moderators as necessary. As such, we do not expect that this thread will develop into a searchable database, but that it will nonetheless provide a valuable resource to members. As well, we may shed / pare down posts from time to time to a trailing thread or similar device.

Our goal is to provide a place where members can feel welcome to post such questions and expect helpful, accurate responses. In this way, we hope to accommodate the needs and desires of both new and veteran members - those who aren't sure they are interpreting the available resources correctly can ask for help without fear of snarky-appearing responses; those who do not wish to participate in such threads are invited and, indeed, encouraged, to ignore this thread.

Please be forewarned: This thread will be subject to heavy moderation. Posts that are incorrect will be subject to deletion without notice - DO NOT POST answers unless you are sure your answer is complete and correct. Posts that are unhelpful or off-topic will also be subject to deletion without notice - DO NOT POST unless you can be friendly, helpful, concise, and salient.

Finally, a few guidelines for members posting queries to this thread:
  • Please DO make an effort to review the listed resources before posting here.
  • Please DO try to give as much information as possible, including your entire itinerary, with carrier for each segment and codeshares and stopovers clearly designated, your class of service and fare class purchased, whether or not you have Admirals Club or Qantas Club membership, a Citi AAdvantage Executive card (which includes full Admirals Club membership), and the number of guests and your family relationship with them, if any.
  • Please DO understand it could take some time for answers (especially on holidays and weekends.)
  • Please DO thank helpful members volunteering to reply to your questions.
Note: Members interested in arranging AA lounge meet-ups or offer guesting in should use this thread: Admirals Club / Flagship Lounge Meet Up & Guest Offer (master thread)

Also see the future changes in lounges and access: Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge Changes, Renovations & Additions

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Help Desk: Lounge Access Rules / Will I Have Lounge Access?
Lounge Access can be obtained in a number of ways during travel on AA and its oneworld partner airlines. These include purchasing an Admirals Club one day pass, or via Citi AAdvantage Executive MasterCard (including, as of Dec 2015, authorized Executive card users), reciprocity agreements with other airlines, traveling on certain transcon flights in F or J, or traveling internationally with Platinum or Platinum Pro (oneworld Sapphire) or Concierge Key or Executive Platinum (oneworld Emerald) status or in F or J classes of service - except if flying solely within North America destinations other than MEX as AAdvantage elite or AA elite in Business class. The last is often the greatest source of confusion, despite lounge access rules being described clearly on aa.com.

Admirals Club members paid or Executive primary cardholder members) are entitled guests as follows:

Up to two guests or household members (spouse, domestic partner and/or children under the age of 18) may accompany the member.

* Note that AA no longer offers a 30-day membership as of July 25 2016.

Executive card subsidiary cardholders have admission as well.

PLT and PPRO members are eligible for access to all oneworld Business Class lounges, now including Flagship Lounges, including Admirals Clubs; EXP and CK members are also eligible for access to nearly all oneworld First Class lounges, including Flagship Lounges.

For AA status-based access (PLT, PPRO, EXP, Concierge Key),* passengers must: (1) be traveling on an international itinerary (Europe, Asia, Central and South America, and Mexico City, excluding the Caribbean and other destinations in North America (other than on certain three class transcontinental flights) including other destinations in Mexico, and (2) have an onward flight on a oneworld airline marketed and operated flight on the same day.

Lounges operated by third parties or premium lounges operating outside of oneworld rules (e.g. BA Concorde Room, Qatar Al Safwa or Al Mourjan lounges, AA Flagship First Dining) may be excluded, and all may may refuse admittance if they claim they are crowded. There are other exceptions.

*Non-AA oneworld Sapphire and Emerald elites are not subject to rule #1 above.

Emerald / EP on CX JFK-YVR are not subject to AA limitations and are issued Flagship Lounge invitations for use at JFK.

The following exceptions apply: (in part; for the entire list, see here)

American Airlines and Qantas paid programmes
American Airlines and Qantas offer programmes enabling customers to pay to gain access to their lounges. These programmes are not part of the oneworld agreement, and members of these programmes are not entitled to access lounges under the oneworld agreement.

American Airlines AAdvantage member North American flights
American Airlines Airlines AAdvantage members, regardless of their tier status or class of travel, are not eligble for lounge access when travelling solely on North American flights within or between the U.S, Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Carribean. For more information, visit, http://aa.com/i18n/travelInformation...miralsClub.jsp

Traveling Flagship Business Transcontinentalalso gives you lounge access and other amenities:
Los Angeles (LAX) - New York (JFK)
San Francisco (SFO) - JFK
LAX - Boston (BOS) traveling on A321T aircraft only
LAX - Miami (MIA) traveling on B777-300 aircraft only (through October 26, 2019)

The following exceptions apply:

First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean; customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and vice-versa are eligible for lounge access. oneworld lounge access page - link

On February 17 2016, AA announced an addition to the above. As stated on their Reimagining our lounges page, in the Flagship Lounges section, "Starting in 2017, lounge access will be extended to customers booked in Business and First Class on A321T, Trans-Atlantic, Trans-Pacific and deep South American flights."

Important Note: Though this announcement excluded Northern South America and Central America, those travelling to or from those destinations in J/F or who hold OWE or OWS, including AA elites, do indeed have access to the Flagship Lounge. See the link below for Flagship Lounge access rules for details.

In the Flagship Dining subsection, they state:
Beginning in early 2017, the Flagship Dining experience will be available in select cities with 3-class service:
● Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) (2019)
● New York (JFK)
● Miami (MIA)
● Los Angeles (LAX)

First Class customers on Americans three class international and transcontinental flights will have exclusive access to Flagship Dining.

All Admirals Club visitors receive free Wi-Fi access at Admirals Clubs (password is available at front desk and throughout the Club on signs), some non-alcoholic and "well" (lower price tier) alcoholic beverages, counter snacks and offered food items; free computer terminals are available for all passengers, and many Clubs have Business Centers and tethered Samsung Galaxy tablets in seating areas. Passengers accessing Admirals Clubs based on status or class of service on international travel are entitled to free drinks coupons usable for higher-tier non-alcoholic and alcoholic beverages and bottles of water.

Flagship Lounges (JFK, LAX, LHR and ORD) offer extended beverages and upscale snack services as well. See below for link.

NOTE: Some Lounges and Clubs are undergoing refurbishment.

Citi Prestige MasterCard holder Admirals Club access ended July 23, 2017.

American Express Platinum cardholder Admirals Club access ended 21 March 2014.

NOTE: It has been verified more airports are allowing multiple terminal access on one's day of departure. LAX has been one since mid-2014.

Admirals Club access is granted the day of flight for statusholders flyingoneworld and those flying F or J, or the following day at the first port of arrival if flying overnight and arriving by 0600.

Airports requiring Lounge users have a same day departure boarding pass include BOG, CCS, CDG, GIG, GRU, LHR, MEX, NRT, SCL, YYZ.

N.B. Qantas Lounges and Clubs require Smart Casual (sic) dress as of May 2015; those not meeting the standard may be turned away. They also require Admirals Club members be traveling on a departing AA marketed flight, otherbthan the LAX / TBIT lounge.

Please see the following resources for full details on Lounge Access Rules: (and see below)
● AA.com: Lounge Access Rules
● AA.com: American Airlines Flagship Lounge Access Rules

Beginning later in 2017: https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ge-updates.jsp opens Flagship access to many more pax.
● AA.com: Reimaging our lounges
● AA.com: Admirals Club Membership Guide in a downloadable PDF format.
● oneworld.com: Lounge Access Rules and Search Tool
● Wiki: Lounges
● FT: American Airlines LOUNGE DASHBOARD

For various threads on membership, access by status, transcon service, class of service, Flagship lounge access, lounges directory with links to specific lounge threads, Club member access to partner lounges, recipripocity agreements, etc.
Admirals Club members - Qantas Club members
Link-->Guide to Admirals Club Members + Reciprocal Qantas Club Access
Note: Qantas Club access for Admirals Club members has CHANGED over time

As an Admirals Club annual, lifetime member, Citi / AAdvantage Executive Card primary cardholder, or AirPass member with Admirals Club privileges, your Qantas Club domestic access has changed over time:
Select Qantas Clubs when departing on the same day on a Qantas operated flight or an American marketed flight operated by Qantas. NOTE: This is different than oneworld access rules and pertains only to Admirals Club members.

Also note Qantas will (at 2016) begin selling single admission starting at $49, but these at least initially will be restricted to QF Bronze or Silver members and only available during non-peak times. At this time, AA flyers are ineligible. Link to 2016 Australian Business Traveller article.[Edit may not be accurate at 04 Jan 2023]

Previously, members could access Qantas domestic lounges with an Admirals Club card without having purchased the AA codeshare. This is no longer permitted. These changes do not include one world Emerald or Sapphire members.

Eligible Admirals Club members must present the following documentation:NOTE Qantas Club Dress Code: N.B. Qantas Lounges and Clubs will require Smart Casual (sic) dress as of May 2015; those not meeting the standard may be turned away. (No open-toe shoes.) c/o hartlogan
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HELP DESK: Will I Have Lounge Access? Which, Access, Rules (2023-24)

Old Feb 13, 2023, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by wrp96
You get access at both CLT and MIA as long as the CLT-MIA flight is the same day as the MIA-PUJ flight.
Nope. we have an overnight in MIA. that arrives at 00:30 and leaves at 10 am. Have a hotel book not to far from the airport.

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Old Feb 13, 2023, 1:16 pm
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Originally Posted by bcard519
Nope. we have an overnight in MIA. that arrives at 00:30 and leaves at 10 am. Have a hotel book not to far from the airport.

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If it arrives at 00:30 and the departure is at 10:00 , that is the same day and so you should be entiteld to lounge access.
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Old Feb 15, 2023, 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
If it arrives at 00:30 and the departure is at 10:00 , that is the same day and so you should be entiteld to lounge access.
Even if the CLT flights departs at 22:30? I was asking about AC access in CLT.
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Old Feb 15, 2023, 5:58 pm
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LAX Access Rules

Hi all, I am flying from LAX-HND on AA169 which departs at 12:14AM. Given all lounge access rules state "same day" will I still be able to access both QF First and the Flagship lounge prior to my flight? I am Oneworld Emerald. Thanks!
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Old Feb 15, 2023, 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by James31
Hi all, I am flying from LAX-HND on AA169 which departs at 12:14AM. Given all lounge access rules state "same day" will I still be able to access both QF First and the Flagship lounge prior to my flight? I am Oneworld Emerald. Thanks!
Yes, no problem to access any lounges in this situation, this is what the "flight before 6am" stuff is all about. You can for sure go the lounge at 10 or 11pm etc. for an early am departure.
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Old Feb 15, 2023, 8:12 pm
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Originally Posted by bcard519
Even if the CLT flights departs at 22:30? I was asking about AC access in CLT.
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It is a same day connection. Your departure is on the same day as your arrival
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Old Feb 16, 2023, 8:48 am
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Ok it seems like admirals club access now includes flights from places like Mexico (in general)

im flying out of MEX anyway, MEX-MIA-PHL
Im plat and flying J

On the AA site it says
For a limited time: Starting April 1, 2021, qualifying international flights will include flights between the U.S. and Canada, the Caribbean and Mexico. Includes customers on qualifying departing or arriving international flights marketed and operated by American.

Does this mean that Ill have access to the admirals club in MIA since Im arriving from MEX? Even though my onward flight is domestic.
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Old Feb 16, 2023, 8:49 am
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Originally Posted by NickRivas
Ok it seems like admirals club access now includes flights from places like Mexico (in general)

im flying out of MEX anyway, MEX-MIA-PHL
Im plat and flying J

On the AA site it says
For a limited time: Starting April 1, 2021, qualifying international flights will include flights between the U.S. and Canada, the Caribbean and Mexico. Includes customers on qualifying departing or arriving international flights marketed and operated by American.

Does this mean that Ill have access to the admirals club in MIA since Im arriving from MEX? Even though my onward flight is domestic.
Yes
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Old Feb 17, 2023, 8:06 am
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DEL > JFK arrival @ 6:15am

Im flying business from DEL> JFK which arrives the next day @ 6:15am. Looks like I miss the cutoff for lounge access because Im arriving the next day after 6am. Am I reading that right?

I lost my ExP status, now have no status. I do have Priority pass, so hopefully have some option upon arrival at jFk for my layover. Thoughts?
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Old Feb 17, 2023, 8:08 am
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Im flying business from DEL> JFK which arrives the next day @ 6:15am. Looks like I miss the cutoff for lounge access because Im arriving the next day after 6am. Am I reading that right?

I lost my ExP status, now have no status. I do have Priority pass, so hopefully have some option upon arrival at jFk for my layover. Thoughts?
No. You will have access on day of arrival as well. Where the 6am cutoff would come into play is if your flight was departing at say 2am, you would still get access the day before because your flight was before 6am.
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Old Feb 20, 2023, 10:18 pm
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Will I have lounge access at JFK (Soho, Greenwich) on arrival on a non-trans-con purely US domestic (ORD-JFK) flight using my BAEC Gold OWE status? Obviously I know no problem to access the Flagship Lounge at ORD but what about on arrival?
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Old Feb 21, 2023, 5:20 am
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Originally Posted by ghsbass0406
Will I have lounge access at JFK (Soho, Greenwich) on arrival on a non-trans-con purely US domestic (ORD-JFK) flight using my BAEC Gold OWE status? Obviously I know no problem to access the Flagship Lounge at ORD but what about on arrival?
By the oneworld rules no access since you don't have an onward/departing oneworld flight from JFK.

Except in a few lounge and airline specific cases oneworld doesn't provide lounge access on arrival.
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Old Feb 21, 2023, 8:41 am
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Originally Posted by JJeffrey
By the oneworld rules no access since you don't have an onward/departing oneworld flight from JFK.

Except in a few lounge and airline specific cases oneworld doesn't provide lounge access on arrival.
I guess I may have misread. I was going off of the language from the Flagship Lounge page which indicates access is provided on an arriving same-day flight for BAEC OWE.

But you are are right in that OW is clear with their eligibility rules that you must be on a departing flight.

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Old Feb 21, 2023, 9:32 am
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Originally Posted by ghsbass0406
I guess I may have misread. I was going off of the language from the Flagship Lounge page which indicates access is provided on an arriving same-day flight for BAEC OWE.
Yea, AA updated their Flagship Lounge access language a while back and included that bit about "arriving" flights. Honestly if you want/need the lounge on arrival I would give it a shot, especially with how loosey-goosey the wording is at aa.com. It's never been clear if AA actually intended to have a much more generous lounge access policy than what's required by oneworld, or if it was just more sloppily worded aa.com language.
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Old Feb 22, 2023, 10:51 am
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Will I have access to the Soho Lounge at JFK under the following (only asking because of that blurry line with "arriving" language):
- Executive Platinum
- Flying Doha-DFW on Qatar
- Flying DFW-JFK same day, but on separate PNR
- JFK is final stop. Since this last leg is a domestic flight, I'll still be airside and could get to the lounge. Will they let me in? I have the status and am flying international the same day, but am arriving and the last leg is a different PNR
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