New Flagship Check-in, Lounges open at JFK
#16
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QR Plat = OWE, so given that there is a clear logo on the entrance sign, you should have no problem entering the respective lounge(s).
#17
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Is there clarity on whether an Exec Plat in domestic transcon Business (JFK-LAX) would qualify for the Soho lounge? I would have thought no way for a non-international trip, but the photos from outside the lounges seem to suggest eligibility on any Flagship Itinerary, and I thought JFK-LAX was a flagship route? Maybe I am misunderstanding things.
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It looks like the two top lounges (Chelsea and Soho) are no longer self-serve drinks meaning people have to wait inline for service. I hate that as if you get behind someone who wants a complicated cocktail, it can take 2-3 minutes. If you just want wine and are in a hurry to get some work done, it's frustrating. Anyone know if the Greenwich lounge is still self-service?
BA lounges are typically self-serve so it's strange AA/BA chose this route for the combined premium lounges.
BA lounges are typically self-serve so it's strange AA/BA chose this route for the combined premium lounges.
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As a QR plat too, we *should* have access to both the F Checkin area and the Soho lounge, but you never know with being AA consistently inconsistent. Def report back if you can as I have a few ex-JFK short haul routes coming up and would love to use both new facilities
#20
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If I'm flying flagship first same-day (from BOS to LAX) but obviously connecting in BOS first, would I have access to Chelsea lounge? Or do I have to be departing from JFK in transcon / intl F?
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Is the new J check in area for those flying domestically with Priority Access as well, or are there still separate regular priority check in desks?
Flying JFK-MIA tomorrow as an EXP. Just curious as to where I go to check my bag now.
Flying JFK-MIA tomorrow as an EXP. Just curious as to where I go to check my bag now.
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BA's top lounges (CCR in both LHR and till tonight JFK) have never been self-served, nor is FFD, so not particularly surprising that the Chelsea lounge which is the equivalent of those two should have a manned bar too. That said, from the images, I am not clear whether the wine tables in both Chelsea and Soho are indeed manned or will be self-service.
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You should based on the current rules. I believe the link is a few posts up. I’d come prepared with your F boarding card and perhaps lead with that when scanned.
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As a QR plat too, we *should* have access to both the F Checkin area and the Soho lounge, but you never know with being AA consistently inconsistent. Def report back if you can as I have a few ex-JFK short haul routes coming up and would love to use both new facilities
There was a small temporary First + Business checkin manned by just 2 staff. Took around 30 mins to get checked in.
Then the Flagship lounge was shut because they're setting it for tomorrow - where I believe it becomes the Greenwich lounge? So they sent us to the Admirals club. Less I say about that the better. Although could get free alcohol at bar by showing boarding pass. Though the idea of even queuing and not having self-pour is something foreign to me (sad to say).
Good luck to anyone going from tomorrow. I think the checkin area looked tiny, especially if it's too be shared by American and BA - and I didn't understand how it was differentiated.
Also have no clue where the new high end lounges are, there was no signposting that I could see and I even walked around a bit and couldn't see anything waiting to be revealed.
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Access flying flagship first
A little confused though maybe I shouldn’t be.
as I understand, flying flagship first from JFK-SFO would grant me Chelsea access - would that automatically include Soho access? In a strange way SoHo feels more appealing for the window views etc.
as I understand, flying flagship first from JFK-SFO would grant me Chelsea access - would that automatically include Soho access? In a strange way SoHo feels more appealing for the window views etc.
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Yes, with an F ticket you can access Chelsea, Soho, or Greenwich if you'd like. I agree re: the window situation (or lack thereof) in Chelsea.
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Is there clarity on whether an Exec Plat in domestic transcon Business (JFK-LAX) would qualify for the Soho lounge? I would have thought no way for a non-international trip, but the photos from outside the lounges seem to suggest eligibility on any Flagship Itinerary, and I thought JFK-LAX was a flagship route? Maybe I am misunderstanding things.
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Based on recent Flagship lounge visits, unless BA has forced AA’s hand regarding quality control, these new spaces will have little appeal. It’s easy to build out a space with attractive design elements—delivering quality product and service on a consistent basis is an entirely different exercise.
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I read in one of the blogs that had a painfully complex, detailed list - no. It is super confusing if “flagship” on that sign means “international flagship” (well, except for ticketed first). It’s a lot of confusion for anyone flying the transcons and IDK if it’s really worth annoying a small number of premium customers. Maybe since a lot of transcons depart with the European bank they are really worried about peak load.
However, there are some "Flagship"-marketed domestic routes, such as:
- JFK-SFO/LAX/SNA nonstop
- LAX-MIA nonstop (on 77W aircraft)
- DFW/ORD-Hawaii nonstop
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