4x miles on AA purchases with Citi AAdvantage Executive Card through 12/31/22
#31
Original Poster
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: AUS, LAX
Programs: AA EXP - 2.2 MM, Admirals Club, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium, Avis Presidents, National Exec
Posts: 1,581
Wow, that's not how I'm reading this at all, interesting.
"Eligible AAdvantage® miles include the base miles earned on purchases, and do not include any bonus miles or accelerators. Loyalty Points may be earned on miles on purchases made by primary cardmembers and authorized users. Loyalty Points earned will be posted to the primary credit cardmember’s AAdvantage® account in 8-10 weeks."
I would assume if you're getting 2X miles already on the card per $1 on AA purchases, that means 2 LPs are currently earned per $1 -- but I admit I've never actually looked at my statements to see. I'll have to log in later and check.
"Eligible AAdvantage® miles include the base miles earned on purchases, and do not include any bonus miles or accelerators. Loyalty Points may be earned on miles on purchases made by primary cardmembers and authorized users. Loyalty Points earned will be posted to the primary credit cardmember’s AAdvantage® account in 8-10 weeks."
I would assume if you're getting 2X miles already on the card per $1 on AA purchases, that means 2 LPs are currently earned per $1 -- but I admit I've never actually looked at my statements to see. I'll have to log in later and check.
"Eligible AAdvantage® miles include the base miles earned on purchases, and do not include any bonus miles or accelerators"
AA says Loyalty Points are only earned from "Eligible" miles. Hence, eligible miles do NOT include bonuses. Hence, 1 Loyalty Point per dollar spent regardless of bonus. It's horribly confusing and shame on AA/Citi for using such terminology and relying on fine print. Any normal human interprets this as, you get 4 miles, those miles are eligible to be used for miles so I should get matching LPs. They should simply say, "Loyalty Points are earned on base miles only"
I already proved this on my post above with screen shots, six tickets purchased, received Base Miles + LP then received JUST Bonus miles with no LP.
#32
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: New York City + Vail, CO
Programs: American Airlines Executive Platinum, Marriott Bonvoy Ambassador Elite
Posts: 3,225
It seems so stingy that the AA shopping portal gives out miles like candy but the AA credit cards only give one per dollar spent, with the only caveat that you can get a few thousand extra for spend thresholds.
#33
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: CMH, West Coast
Programs: AA Executive Platinum, oneworld emerald
Posts: 2,741
One thing that gives me hope that I won't be competing with a bunch of newly-minted EXPs next year is that a lot of posters still seem baffled by how Loyalty Points earning even works.
#34
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Wesley Chapel, FL
Programs: American Airlines
Posts: 29,993
Considering exp status is 200k LP a year switching to Amex platinum would put the kabosh in that! I spend probably 70k on that card now so I wouldn’t requalify not using the Amex plat.
#35
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EP
Posts: 102
Wow, that's not how I'm reading this at all, interesting.
"Eligible AAdvantage® miles include the base miles earned on purchases, and do not include any bonus miles or accelerators. Loyalty Points may be earned on miles on purchases made by primary cardmembers and authorized users. Loyalty Points earned will be posted to the primary credit cardmember’s AAdvantage® account in 8-10 weeks."
I would assume if you're getting 2X miles already on the card per $1 on AA purchases, that means 2 LPs are currently earned per $1 -- but I admit I've never actually looked at my statements to see. I'll have to log in later and check.
"Eligible AAdvantage® miles include the base miles earned on purchases, and do not include any bonus miles or accelerators. Loyalty Points may be earned on miles on purchases made by primary cardmembers and authorized users. Loyalty Points earned will be posted to the primary credit cardmember’s AAdvantage® account in 8-10 weeks."
I would assume if you're getting 2X miles already on the card per $1 on AA purchases, that means 2 LPs are currently earned per $1 -- but I admit I've never actually looked at my statements to see. I'll have to log in later and check.
#36
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 256
I have. I look for all of 5 minutes, saw that it IS the case that it's only 1 LP per $1, and moved on.
I don't nit pick every penny I spend, seems like a huge waste of time. I'm not surprised that a lot of folks will waste 200 hours a year on forums and spreadsheets and calculators in order to try to get $2000 worth of "free" upgrades, tho, lol.
Not shocked at all that most of them are here.
I don't nit pick every penny I spend, seems like a huge waste of time. I'm not surprised that a lot of folks will waste 200 hours a year on forums and spreadsheets and calculators in order to try to get $2000 worth of "free" upgrades, tho, lol.
Not shocked at all that most of them are here.
#37
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 256
#38
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Virginia, USA
Posts: 4,508
It's not just "posters" that are baffled by LP. I doubt that more than a couple of pax on any given AA flight have even heard of LP.
#39
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 256
His response was "LPs? What are those?"
This is someone who flies weekly on AA for work, too.
#40
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,528
Of course, this would probably come with an AF increase, so....
#41
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: AUS
Programs: AA Exec Platinum/MM, DL Gold/MM, Hilton Diamond, Accor Platinum, Hertz Presidents Circle
Posts: 6,970
I'm not sure this will drive a lot of incremental business to the card. I already charge personal AA tickets to the card, and that's the only thing I charge to the card. Business tickets have to go on the company card. A promo that increased loyalty points for that spend would be a much different story.
#42
formerly DreAAmliner
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 419
So there seems to be a fair amount of personal AA airfare purchased on AA cards in this thread.
Genuinely, may I ask why? With zero travel protections and a worse earning structure than most other travel cards (including $99 low-mid tier cards), I am really trying to understand the value-add for using the AA card for airfare. One LP/RDM + one extra RDM does not appear like a good trade to me?
Genuinely, may I ask why? With zero travel protections and a worse earning structure than most other travel cards (including $99 low-mid tier cards), I am really trying to understand the value-add for using the AA card for airfare. One LP/RDM + one extra RDM does not appear like a good trade to me?
#43
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: MHK
Programs: AA Exec Plat - some level of status in IHG, Marriot & HIlton
Posts: 1,516
So there seems to be a fair amount of personal AA airfare purchased on AA cards in this thread.
Genuinely, may I ask why? With zero travel protections and a worse earning structure than most other travel cards (including $99 low-mid tier cards), I am really trying to understand the value-add for using the AA card for airfare. One LP/RDM + one extra RDM does not appear like a good trade to me?
Genuinely, may I ask why? With zero travel protections and a worse earning structure than most other travel cards (including $99 low-mid tier cards), I am really trying to understand the value-add for using the AA card for airfare. One LP/RDM + one extra RDM does not appear like a good trade to me?
#44
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 256
So there seems to be a fair amount of personal AA airfare purchased on AA cards in this thread.
Genuinely, may I ask why? With zero travel protections and a worse earning structure than most other travel cards (including $99 low-mid tier cards), I am really trying to understand the value-add for using the AA card for airfare. One LP/RDM + one extra RDM does not appear like a good trade to me?
Genuinely, may I ask why? With zero travel protections and a worse earning structure than most other travel cards (including $99 low-mid tier cards), I am really trying to understand the value-add for using the AA card for airfare. One LP/RDM + one extra RDM does not appear like a good trade to me?
21,000 LPs by shoving it on an AA card, plus 84,000 bonus award miles?
$1312.50 putting it on my Schwab Amex Platinum.
I value my award miles for domestic travel mostly so let’s say I value them at $840 or so. And LPs help with upgrades — and I see how I swap positions with frequent flyers on the same route.
I am not going to cry over $500 in value in a year. My time is worth more than nickel and diming. If I remember to stick it on Amex, I will, but not in some obsessive methodology.
I am not wealthy, either. But time is so much more valuable to me. I am positive a lot of folks are happy to use 2 or 3 credit cards and be fine with missing out on $120 a month of more cash back.
As for travel insurance, I have never needed it once in my life that I can think of. I did get covid in Mexico tho, so perhaps then, but I have flown 2000 flights to 6 continents and maybe one time I needed insurance? It’s not even close to being valuable, to me.
#45
formerly DreAAmliner
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 419
If I fly 100 flights a year averaging $210 per flights, it’s $21,000 a year on a credit card.
21,000 LPs by shoving it on an AA card, plus 84,000 bonus award miles?
$1312.50 putting it on my Schwab Amex Platinum.
I value my award miles for domestic travel mostly so let’s say I value them at $840 or so. And LPs help with upgrades — and I see how I swap positions with frequent flyers on the same route.
I am not going to cry over $500 in value in a year. My time is worth more than nickel and diming. If I remember to stick it on Amex, I will, but not in some obsessive methodology.
I am not wealthy, either. But time is so much more valuable to me. I am positive a lot of folks are happy to use 2 or 3 credit cards and be fine with missing out on $120 a month of more cash back.
As for travel insurance, I have never needed it once in my life that I can think of. I did get covid in Mexico tho, so perhaps then, but I have flown 2000 flights to 6 continents and maybe one time I needed insurance? It’s not even close to being valuable, to me.
21,000 LPs by shoving it on an AA card, plus 84,000 bonus award miles?
$1312.50 putting it on my Schwab Amex Platinum.
I value my award miles for domestic travel mostly so let’s say I value them at $840 or so. And LPs help with upgrades — and I see how I swap positions with frequent flyers on the same route.
I am not going to cry over $500 in value in a year. My time is worth more than nickel and diming. If I remember to stick it on Amex, I will, but not in some obsessive methodology.
I am not wealthy, either. But time is so much more valuable to me. I am positive a lot of folks are happy to use 2 or 3 credit cards and be fine with missing out on $120 a month of more cash back.
As for travel insurance, I have never needed it once in my life that I can think of. I did get covid in Mexico tho, so perhaps then, but I have flown 2000 flights to 6 continents and maybe one time I needed insurance? It’s not even close to being valuable, to me.
LPs are easy/cheap to come by, and i would rather take a few extra minutes out of my day to buy something through the eshopping portal than be uninsured. When things go wrong, the usually get expensive, especially as it is normally weather which is not covered by the airline.
I am glad you have never needed flight interruption/luggage coverages before and genuinely hope this continues to be the case for you.