For those who complain about the Admirals Club [JFK T5 rant]
#16
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 782
Two weeks ago, I had a four hour layover at T5, so I left the terminal and relaxed at the TWA Hotel's Constellation bar. Yes, the drinks were expensive, but the vibe was a lot mellower than it would have been in the terminal.
#17
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Anywhere
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 674
It's about a mile of walking from the Admiral's club to C17, but not a bad way to spend a long delay.
#18
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: UA MileagePlus 2MM
Posts: 1,567
”Please let me get on this bus so I can enjoy the house white wine and then return a short while later”. Jokes aside, this is why B6 is a fundamentally different airline — no club network, limited elite recognition etc when things go sideways. Those are two reasons why I’ve avoided flying them during this alliance. It’s nice to be able to now hit the AC before a B6 flight in Boston, but not enough to move the needle.
T1 is next level / on par with the old Penn Station Amtrak waiting room. Anyone who thought the former LGA central terminal was the worst terminal around needs to make a visit during the European departures window.
AA needs to work with the PANYNJ to fix those moving walkways - it can become quite the trek. Otherwise I’m a big fan of T8 (and that’s a minor thing anyway).
T1 is next level / on par with the old Penn Station Amtrak waiting room. Anyone who thought the former LGA central terminal was the worst terminal around needs to make a visit during the European departures window.
AA needs to work with the PANYNJ to fix those moving walkways - it can become quite the trek. Otherwise I’m a big fan of T8 (and that’s a minor thing anyway).
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#19
Join Date: May 2008
Location: NYC
Programs: DL PM; UA 1K; AA 1MM
Posts: 4,514
Definitely good that T1 is getting rebuilt though. It needs it.
(of course, the shining star of the old LGA Terminal B, even with the leaks and lack of space and with Auntie Anne's being the upscale dining choice past security....was the fact that the old LGA B was so very convenient curb to gate and vice versa)
#20
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: New York
Programs: EK Platinum, AA EXP, Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,147
I have flown LH from JFK T1. Absolute madhouse. Still, the building didn't leak on me like the old LGA B
Definitely good that T1 is getting rebuilt though. It needs it.
(of course, the shining star of the old LGA Terminal B, even with the leaks and lack of space and with Auntie Anne's being the upscale dining choice past security....was the fact that the old LGA B was so very convenient curb to gate and vice versa)
Definitely good that T1 is getting rebuilt though. It needs it.
(of course, the shining star of the old LGA Terminal B, even with the leaks and lack of space and with Auntie Anne's being the upscale dining choice past security....was the fact that the old LGA B was so very convenient curb to gate and vice versa)
#21
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: AA 1MM EXP, DL Diamond, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Ambassador (RIP SPG), Aeroplan 75K
Posts: 1,152
I was going to give you a hard time about going outside security to do this, but then found out that the B to C airside connector opened recently!
It's about a mile of walking from the Admiral's club to C17, but not a bad way to spend a long delay.
https://twitter.com/BostonLogan/stat...08850655854592
It's about a mile of walking from the Admiral's club to C17, but not a bad way to spend a long delay.
https://twitter.com/BostonLogan/stat...08850655854592
Depending on timing, I may make the daring attempt of accessing the BA lounge ahead of an AA flight in a couple of weeks. Fully expecting massive pushback.
The new set up is brutal for curb to gate, though Delta’s new terminal is worse.
#22
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EXP / LT PLT / 3MM, Marriott LT Gold
Posts: 35,386
#23
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 515
JetBlue is a discount airline that runs a lot of flights out of T5. The downside is crowds, the upside is cheaper fares with a lot of flight options. It is a busy terminal but a pretty quick walk once through security to any gate. T8 isnt that crowded because AA isnt utilizing it to its capacity.
#24
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 1,372
I can't tell you how many times I arrived 20-25 minutes before departure and still managed to just make it. 100% would NOT recommend anymore.
#25
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: AA, UA, Marriott
Posts: 1,107
One claimed benefit (which I would sacrifice 5 mins of walking for) was the new design would decrease taxiway congestion which presumably would translate into shorter block times and fewer delays. I don't think we can conclusively say either way but feels the same for me.
Yes it is visually nicer & more spacious and has the FOUNTAIN
#26
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: DCA
Programs: AA EXP 1MM, WOH Globalist
Posts: 1,160
Home is currently DCA and it used to be LGA. I HATE what they've done to both. There is just a fundamental disconnect between what I (and I suspect many frequent travelers) want in an airport.
I don't care about fountains, or shopping, or even dining options. I want to minimize the amount of time and steps I have to spend before and after the flight. Give me an AC to wait out delays and help with IRROPs and I'm happy.
The old LGA was magnificent! From wheels down, I could be in a cab headed towards Manhattan in less than 10 minutes (my record was 7). I couldn't care less if the ceiling was leaking as I walk past the Auntie Anne's. These days it feels like you're walking through half of Queens.
DCA is much better but it still adds time before departure to go all the way downstairs to security.
I don't care about fountains, or shopping, or even dining options. I want to minimize the amount of time and steps I have to spend before and after the flight. Give me an AC to wait out delays and help with IRROPs and I'm happy.
The old LGA was magnificent! From wheels down, I could be in a cab headed towards Manhattan in less than 10 minutes (my record was 7). I couldn't care less if the ceiling was leaking as I walk past the Auntie Anne's. These days it feels like you're walking through half of Queens.
DCA is much better but it still adds time before departure to go all the way downstairs to security.
#27
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Washington DC
Programs: BA GLD, AA GLD 1MM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott LT Titanium
Posts: 1,698
On the other hand the LGA situation drives me nuts. So much wasted time and walking compared to the old days. The only good thing I have to say about it is the new Admirals Club is beautiful.
#28
Join Date: Feb 2022
Programs: AAdvantage
Posts: 949
I've worked with several airport authorities in the US and they've all determined that their airport should be a mall. They're under pressure to "produce profit." Hence the build out of shops and other facilities that the FF has little need for. They've also will never say no to how many flights an airline wants to jam into their concourses/terminals.
#29
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 515
Home is currently DCA and it used to be LGA. I HATE what they've done to both. There is just a fundamental disconnect between what I (and I suspect many frequent travelers) want in an airport.
I don't care about fountains, or shopping, or even dining options. I want to minimize the amount of time and steps I have to spend before and after the flight. Give me an AC to wait out delays and help with IRROPs and I'm happy.
The old LGA was magnificent! From wheels down, I could be in a cab headed towards Manhattan in less than 10 minutes (my record was 7). I couldn't care less if the ceiling was leaking as I walk past the Auntie Anne's. These days it feels like you're walking through half of Queens.
DCA is much better but it still adds time before departure to go all the way downstairs to security.
I don't care about fountains, or shopping, or even dining options. I want to minimize the amount of time and steps I have to spend before and after the flight. Give me an AC to wait out delays and help with IRROPs and I'm happy.
The old LGA was magnificent! From wheels down, I could be in a cab headed towards Manhattan in less than 10 minutes (my record was 7). I couldn't care less if the ceiling was leaking as I walk past the Auntie Anne's. These days it feels like you're walking through half of Queens.
DCA is much better but it still adds time before departure to go all the way downstairs to security.
#30
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: JFK/LGA
Programs: AA EXP/5 MM, BA Blue Bayou, HH LT Diamond
Posts: 5,827