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diburning Sep 22, 2022 9:57 am

I didn’t think BOS-YHZ was that odd considering that there is competition on the route from AC. (Even WS flew the route seasonally at one point)

jamiel Sep 22, 2022 10:04 am

We ended up rerouted onto that AC flight...DH8 which wasn't awful.

ssb2045 Sep 22, 2022 10:11 am

I've always found that MDT-BOS flight interesting - I used to live north of MDT and frequently traveled to Massachusetts and Maine. It's a pretty long and annoying drive, and I think Harrisburg is just far enough that a flight makes sense over driving or Amtrak. The fares were always sky-high when I checked them (pre-Covid), so clearly the demand was there for business travel.

joeyE Sep 22, 2022 10:51 am

They still fly RDU-LHR....lots of BioTech and Pharma in the Triangle fund this route. They also fly SEA-LHR and probably get some feeder traffic from the tie-up with Alaska.

brenc3 Sep 22, 2022 10:51 am


Originally Posted by ssb2045 (Post 34621471)
I've always found that MDT-BOS flight interesting - I used to live north of MDT and frequently traveled to Massachusetts and Maine. It's a pretty long and annoying drive, and I think Harrisburg is just far enough that a flight makes sense over driving or Amtrak. The fares were always sky-high when I checked them (pre-Covid), so clearly the demand was there for business travel.

A lot of these odd Northeast point to point routes that US operated had ridiculously high fares. I used to fly BOS-BUF for work in the mid-00s and fares on the US nonstop were often around $700 r/t. Then B6 started flying the route and fares dropped more than half. It has to be business demand since the routes are short enough that at those fares driving makes a lot more sense.

Herb687 Sep 22, 2022 10:54 am


Originally Posted by platbrownguy (Post 34621372)
Don't forget BOS-YHZ, Saturdays June through October. Will fly that one of these days just for the novelty.

BOS-YHZ used to be at least daily (I think it was multiple daily flights, especially in peak season). The BOS-YHZ route was inherited by American Eagle when it acquired Business Express. Remember that BOS was at one time a decent sized hub for Eagle. I flew BOS-YHZ back in the Saab days after Business Express was folded into Eagle.



Originally Posted by brenc3 (Post 34621604)
A lot of these odd Northeast point to point routes that US operated had ridiculously high fares. I used to fly BOS-BUF for work in the mid-00s and fares on the US nonstop were often around $700 r/t. Then B6 started flying the route and fares dropped more than half. It has to be business demand since the routes are short enough that at those fares driving makes a lot more sense.

Way WAY back when, pmpmUS (that's pre-HP-merger Unfortunately Still Allegheny In Reality. Why Alter Your Signs?) was the one major that actually had a consistent domestic yield premium versus AA.

Charging extremely high fares on a lot of very short flights from BOS/PHL/PIT is a great way to produce staggeringly high unadjusted yields. Of course, stage length adjusting changes the conclusion a bit.

saunders111 Sep 22, 2022 11:52 am


Originally Posted by diburning (Post 34620261)
AA has some really odd nonhub routes out of BOS (all regional)

And seasonally:
BOS-TVC

The others sort of made sense from a vacation/beach/tourist sort of point of view, but seriously, Traverse City, MI??? Can someone explain that one? Does it have to do with ship crews or something like that?

saunders111

nineworldseries Sep 22, 2022 12:45 pm


Originally Posted by saunders111 (Post 34621792)
The others sort of made sense from a vacation/beach/tourist sort of point of view, but seriously, Traverse City, MI??? Can someone explain that one? Does it have to do with ship crews or something like that?

saunders111

Apparently Traverse City is a tourist destination of some kind.

guv1976 Sep 22, 2022 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by nineworldseries (Post 34621933)
Apparently Traverse City is a tourist destination of some kind.

More likely Mackinac Island, I expect. The Island's Grand Hotel was featured in the movie, "Somewhere in Time."

https://www.grandhotel.com/#

AMflier Sep 22, 2022 1:09 pm

BOS-ILM makes a lot of sense for Boston startups incorporating in Delaware

njvandy Sep 22, 2022 1:20 pm


Originally Posted by AMflier (Post 34622009)
BOS-ILM makes a lot of sense for Boston startups incorporating in Delaware

ILM is Wilmington, North Carolina! Delaware is the only U.S. state without a commercial airport offering regularly scheduled flights!

guv1976 Sep 22, 2022 1:20 pm


Originally Posted by AMflier (Post 34622009)
BOS-ILM makes a lot of sense for Boston startups incorporating in Delaware

If only ILM were in Delaware! (It's in North Carolina.)

diburning Sep 22, 2022 3:41 pm


Originally Posted by brenc3 (Post 34621604)
A lot of these odd Northeast point to point routes that US operated had ridiculously high fares. I used to fly BOS-BUF for work in the mid-00s and fares on the US nonstop were often around $700 r/t. Then B6 started flying the route and fares dropped more than half. It has to be business demand since the routes are short enough that at those fares driving makes a lot more sense.

I flew BOS-BUF roundtrip once on JetBlue for $97!

ryanbriar Sep 22, 2022 9:07 pm

I was going to mention some of the BOS routes, but I view BOS as a focus city on par with Austin (not a hub, but not insignificant).

In addition to what’s been listed, there’s SYR, ROC, IND, YYZ, CUN, MBJ, Punta Cana (all Saturday’s) and probably a few others I’m missing.

I’ve done the MDT flight once (versus connecting in PHL to UNV) and will be on the SYR flight next week. Those late day 145 flights seem to habitually delayed, but still better than driving on I-90 for several hours.

njvandy Sep 23, 2022 6:42 am

BNA-MCO
BNA-RDU
BNA-TPA
RDU-TPA
RDU-PIT
RDA-CVG (begins next year)

There are also a whole bunch of random seasonal routes to CUN including CMH, IND, MCI, RDU, STL


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