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New Flagship Suites coming to 77W, 789 & 321XLR; 3-class F and 321T sub-fleet to go

New Flagship Suites coming to 77W, 789 & 321XLR; 3-class F and 321T sub-fleet to go

Old Sep 20, 22, 3:57 pm
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Why new PE seats. The current ones are fine ( a little stiff-for my taste )
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Old Sep 20, 22, 4:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Antarius View Post
Well, it isn't. I trust my own eyes perfectly well in this case.



Bingo. Doors are just like any "enhancement" that AA trots out, a little window dressing and they take something more important away.

The new doored suites on many airlines are step backwards in space and comfort from their previous seats.
Confort is an entirely different issue. I'm addressing the additional privacy offered.

I don't know what substandard seats with doors you're flying, but please, tell us, which doored configuration allows you an equally clear view of fellow passengers across that cabin equal to seats without them? ANA? Qatar? I think it'll be quite a revelation when you reveal which config allows you as clear a view at your fellow passengers that closed door cabins do. To claim there's no more privacy with doors is absurd on its face, despite the peanut gallery, many of whom are chiming in without apparently ever experiencing the product.

I'm 6' 3" and the view of fellow passengers across the cabin is significantly hindered by the doors, sitting or standing, what are you, 6' 8" and flying a mystery carrier with clear doors?
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Old Sep 20, 22, 5:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Ghoulish View Post
Confort is an entirely different issue. I'm addressing the additional privacy offered.

I don't know what substandard seats with doors you're flying, but please, tell us, which doored configuration allows you an equally clear view of fellow passengers across that cabin equal to seats without them? ANA? Qatar? I think it'll be quite a revelation when you reveal which config allows you as clear a view at your fellow passengers that closed door cabins do. To claim there's no more privacy with doors is absurd on its face, despite the peanut gallery, many of whom are chiming in without apparently ever experiencing the product.

I'm 6' 3" and the view of fellow passengers across the cabin is significantly hindered by the doors, sitting or standing, what are you, 6' 8" and flying a mystery carrier with clear doors?
I agree - when I am in Qsuites I cannot see a single other person from my seat with the door closed. I am not sure how that is not more private than most seats.
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Old Sep 20, 22, 6:37 pm
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Originally Posted by DeepUnderground View Post
I agree - when I am in Qsuites I cannot see a single other person from my seat with the door closed. I am not sure how that is not more private than most seats.
Agree 100%. Plus if you are travelling with 2 or 4, you can choose the center seats and have a private suite to yourself (and not see anyone else with the door closed). The Q-suite for four was the best seating we have ever had as a family.
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Old Sep 20, 22, 7:03 pm
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Originally Posted by DeepUnderground View Post
I agree - when I am in Qsuites I cannot see a single other person from my seat with the door closed. I am not sure how that is not more private than most seats.
In a reverse herringbone, you can't see anything while sitting either. You can see the side of someone's seat shell, but that's about it. Standing up, both offer the same lack of protection.

QR is a marketing powerhouse..it's not as bad as EK, where they somehow convinced a large number of people that 2-3-2 angle flats are industry leading, but it's still a spin machine.
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Old Sep 20, 22, 7:38 pm
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Originally Posted by itripreport View Post
its the same seats delta uses as first class class on their NEOs, and let me assure you, they are more comfortable than anything AA has in their domestic fleet. Everyone had their doubts about it too when Delta first announced the seat.
Hopefully AA PE pitch with these seats will be more generous than DL's tight domestic F pitch.
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Old Sep 20, 22, 7:59 pm
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So going forward all transcon Business Class has A321T First Class level seats? I think that's pretty good news!
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Old Sep 20, 22, 8:06 pm
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I’d much rather have F than extra J with pointless doors.

Despite having already heard rumours to this effect, it’s a disappointment to read.
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Old Sep 20, 22, 8:41 pm
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XLR

Does anybody know how many total seats will be on this configuration?
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Old Sep 20, 22, 8:54 pm
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Weird how they are quiet on how they will fly the transcons. I could imagine a few wide bodies doing LAX-JFK but not BOS or SFO. So that leaves either XLRs on JFK-SFO or a reconfigured a321 with presumably the new suites designed for transcon (so swapping one sub fleet for another?). I wonder if they reconfigure a normal a321 non XLR with these new suites what they config will be (20 new J suite seat, no PE and MCE+Y? I wonder if they will mix the XLR and reconfigured a321 fleets or keep the XLR for thin Intl and just have a new dedicated sub fleet with lie flats for the transcon? The transcon upgrades might get hard if they lose 10 lie flats seats and a lot more Y seats
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Old Sep 20, 22, 9:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Ghoulish View Post
Doors certainly provide a greater degree of privacy, especially while laying down, as do moveable partitions between center seats.

As for "anyone can look over", I've never encountered that creepy behavior, but it would take a degree of effort that they'd come to regret, unless it was an FA.
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Less concerned about privacy than being bumped by a cart or passenger of size squeezing down the aisle.
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Old Sep 20, 22, 10:56 pm
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Originally Posted by shd9 View Post
So going forward all transcon Business Class has A321T First Class level seats? I think that's pretty good news!
Yes, but there are now only 20 J seats, as opposed to 20 J seats and 10 F seats. I guess the addition of PE is some consolation, but it is a reduction of 10 lie-flats overall.
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Old Sep 20, 22, 11:03 pm
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Originally Posted by diver858 View Post
+1
Less concerned about privacy than being bumped by a cart or passenger of size squeezing down the aisle.
And this happens in any of AA's widebody business or first class?
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Old Sep 21, 22, 4:31 am
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Originally Posted by MarkOK View Post
But, I don't quite get the premium economy thing anyways -- far too much upcharge for a seat that I still can't sleep in.
The upcharge for PY is more about avoiding the misery of Y. A lot of people, myself included, will pay a lot to escape the torture of 9-abreast Y on a 787 or 10-abreast Y on a 777. These are very long flights, after all.
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Old Sep 21, 22, 4:39 am
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So the new J seat is just reverse herringbone with a door? What's innovative about that? It seems like other airlines are already ahead of this "new" product from AA. Look at ANA. Aside from the fact that their new seat is so hard that it feels like a park bench, it really is an impressive new design with a lot of space and privacy. (Now if someone would just tweak the seat padding to make it comfortable, it would be the best J seat in the sky.)
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