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New Flagship Suites coming to 77W, 789 & 321XLR; 3-class F and 321T sub-fleet to go

New Flagship Suites coming to 77W, 789 & 321XLR; 3-class F and 321T sub-fleet to go

Old Sep 20, 22, 11:55 am
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Originally Posted by Ghoulish View Post
As for "anyone can look over", I've never encountered that creepy behavior, but it would take a degree of effort that they'd come to regret, unless it was an FA.
If you're over 6', you can see right over them when you're walking by.

The door trend reminds me of this

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Old Sep 20, 22, 12:03 pm
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Originally Posted by bchandler02 View Post
I just don't get the current trend of a door on the J seats. What's the point? Anyone standing up can simply look over them. If you are sitting down, you're usually reclined enough except for maybe takeoff/landing to not be able to see or be seen unless you sit up and make an effort.

Just seems like another useless trend to me.
I don't disagree with you.

Also, I can already see the seat is similar to other airlines where I have no room for my feet or bending my knees such that my shins are always banging against the ceiling of the foot well.
Not good
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Old Sep 20, 22, 12:30 pm
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Originally Posted by GratefulSmile View Post
So it's a Qsuite?
no, the Qsuite is a lot bigger and spaciousand even there people complain its a bit too enclosed. This is a smaller seat, what Qatar now uses on their 787/9s (but not Qsuite).

I would compare it more to Delta One with an angle
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Old Sep 20, 22, 1:08 pm
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Can I change into my PJs behind the suite door? That would be the only incremental benefit IMO (and would cut down the lavatory lines!)
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Old Sep 20, 22, 1:16 pm
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I also don't care about the doors. Just seems like an unnecessary part to break.

Don't care for the head wings on the premium economy seats either. But, I don't quite get the premium economy thing anyways -- far too much upcharge for a seat that I still can't sleep in.

I do like the J capacity on the new 789 and retrofitted 777. The J-light 787s have been such a shame. But, I wish they'd just use the current J product instead of this 'suite' (i'd call it a jr suite ).

Originally Posted by carlosdca View Post

Also, I can already see the seat is similar to other airlines where I have no room for my feet or bending my knees such that my shins are always banging against the ceiling of the foot well.
Not good
To me, the parts that fit the worse on flights is shoulders and hips. Don't mind my shoulders (or hips) being snug when I am upright, but when laying down, what makes it hard to be comfortable is that space where the hips are between the seat and the tray table under the tv. Can't tell for sure from these photos, but doesn't look like it's any better than the current 777 J products AA flies.
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Old Sep 20, 22, 1:17 pm
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It's nonsense to suggest doors don't offer additional privacy.

Simply because doors don't offer total privacy doesn't mean they aren't providing more privacy.

I'm over 6' and it's absurd to suggest the view of other passengers isn't significantly reduced, even when walking up and down aisles, especially during sleeping hours when most doors are closed.

Think they're useless don't close yours, but many passengers obviously appreciate them.
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Old Sep 20, 22, 1:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Ghoulish View Post
It's nonsense to suggest doors don't offer additional privacy.

Simply because doors don't offer total privacy doesn't mean they aren't providing more privacy.

I'm over 6' and it's absurd to suggest the view of other passengers isn't significantly reduced, even when walking up and down aisles, especially during sleeping hours when most doors are closed.

Think they're useless don't close yours, but many passengers obviously appreciate them.
I don't think that people here don't appreciate more privacy.
Maybe the sentiment here is that it appears there is an urgency of putting a door no matter what and by doing that the airline forgets about making a seat that is also more comfortable than the previous seat generation.
I think we are getting what appears to be a less comfortable seat (tighter at several spots) but with a door. The trade-off does not seem justified.
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Old Sep 20, 22, 2:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Ghoulish View Post
I'm over 6' and it's absurd to suggest the view of other passengers isn't significantly reduced, even when walking up and down aisles, especially during sleeping hours when most doors are closed..
Well, it isn't. I trust my own eyes perfectly well in this case.

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I don't think that people here don't appreciate more privacy.
Maybe the sentiment here is that it appears there is an urgency of putting a door no matter what and by doing that the airline forgets about making a seat that is also more comfortable than the previous seat generation.
I think we are getting what appears to be a less comfortable seat (tighter at several spots) but with a door. The trade-off does not seem justified.
Bingo. Doors are just like any "enhancement" that AA trots out, a little window dressing and they take something more important away.

The new doored suites on many airlines are step backwards in space and comfort from their previous seats.
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Old Sep 20, 22, 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by ijgordon View Post
Can I change into my PJs behind the suite door? That would be the only incremental benefit IMO (and would cut down the lavatory lines!)
You can... although I don't know how happy everyone else in the cabin will be
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Old Sep 20, 22, 2:51 pm
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Originally Posted by ijgordon View Post
Can I change into my PJs behind the suite door? That would be the only incremental benefit IMO (and would cut down the lavatory lines!)
You don't even need a door to do that, fly Apex Suite window seat/ middle seat with partition down.
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Old Sep 20, 22, 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by fender5787 View Post
Looks like theyre using the same product on the 789s that QR uses for their business suite 789 product. For me, this is pretty disappointing. Ive flown this product a few times and while it has a ton of bells and whistles, the seat is really tight (especially around the shoulders) and the foot box is pretty small. Id take the super diamond and definitely the current 77W J product over this (let alone Apex or qsuites). So unless AA does some serious customization to this, to me its kinda a downgrade.
I agree. I've flown QR's "Business Suite" a number of times, and it's pretty bad. It's terribly cramped, after a few hours it becomes uncomfortable. There aren't any cubbies or compartments for personal items, which is really frustrating. It has walls and a door, but they are too low to provide any privacy. In QR's version, the door doesn't even close. AA standardizing on this as their top product will be really bad.
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Old Sep 20, 22, 3:26 pm
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Originally Posted by IADCAflyer View Post
Redesigned lounges to me means no more FFD...
AA has been selling Business Plus fares that include access to Flagship First Dining and Flagship Checkin. That suggests those products may continue to be offered (although they likely will drop the "First" in the name).
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Old Sep 20, 22, 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by fender5787 View Post
Im 5 10 and have size 11 feet and this product was really tight for me and pretty uncomfortable so much so I couldnt sleep on the few segments Ive flown this product. So Im assuming it will be pretty rough for you as well. It is def tighter than the super diamond, a product Ive been easily able to sleep on.
Yep, a really cramped seat.
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Old Sep 20, 22, 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by GratefulSmile View Post
So it's a Qsuite?
We wish. Qsuite is a terrific product, a contender for best business class in the sky. This is the Adient Ascent product, which QR uses on their 789 as Business Suite. It's awful. Cramped, no storage, with walls and door too low to provide any privacy. It looks like a Qsuite in photos, but in reality is nothing like Qsuite.
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Old Sep 20, 22, 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by ijgordon View Post
Can I change into my PJs behind the suite door? That would be the only incremental benefit IMO (and would cut down the lavatory lines!)
Yes, but you might want to do it laying down with a blanket over you, to avoid flashing everyone. The Adient Ascent product has very low walls.
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