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From AA's "Systemwide upgrades" page as of 24 July 2023 (edited to remove references to mileage upgrades, which are not the topic of this thread):
From AA's "AAdvantage FAQs" page as of 24 July 2023 (edited to remove references to mileage upgrades, which are not the topic of this thread):
Enjoy a confirmed upgrade from most Business fares to First, from Premium Economy to Business, or from Economy to Premium Economy when flying transatlantic on British Airways.
Systemwide upgrades can be used for one-way travel for up to 3 flight segments on British Airways marketed and operated flights or British Airways operated flights marketed by American. At least one American marketed flight must be in the itinerary to be eligible.
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*Systemwide upgrades are subject to upgrade seating availability.
Systemwide upgrades can be used for one-way travel for up to 3 flight segments on British Airways marketed and operated flights or British Airways operated flights marketed by American. At least one American marketed flight must be in the itinerary to be eligible.
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- Log in to aa.com and make sure you have systemwide upgrades available in your AAdvantage account.
- Call your AAdvantage status service desk to confirm your upgrade. If available, the required number of upgrades will be deducted from your balance.*
- If an upgrade isnt available at the time of booking, you can check back with us. There is no option to waitlist for an upgrade on British Airways flights.
*Systemwide upgrades are subject to upgrade seating availability.
Upgrades on British Airways and Iberia
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- Can I upgrade on British Airways and Iberia flights? Yes, systemwide upgrades can be used for one-way travel for up to three segments on British Airways marketed and operated flights or British Airways operated flights marketed by American.
- Can I upgrade from a discount Main Cabin fare? Systemwide upgrades on British Airways are valid on all purchased, published fares.
- Why is my upgrade on British Airways not valid from Economy to Business? Systemwide and mileage upgrades are valid for a one cabin upgrade. On British Airways flights that offer Premium Economy, upgrades from Economy will be to Premium Economy. On flights where British Airways doesnt offer Premium Economy, the upgrade will be to Business.
SWU upgrades on BA are live
#301
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Admittedly there isn't much information in the question, so I am assuming that the query relates to such a booking
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It does state that the booking may be made through an authorised travel agency or AA. Booking directly with BA wouldn't meet that criterion. AA needs to be able to reisssue the ticket, which I don't believe it can for a booking with BA that is purely BA and sold by BA, It doesn;t have the same wording as partner award upgeades have admittedly
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Systemwide upgrades can be used for one-way travel for up to 3 flight segments on British Airways marketed and operated flights or British Airways operated flights marketed by American. At least one American marketed flight must be in the itinerary to be eligible.
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The challenge is getting BA to sell a ticket with at least one segment marketed by AA (i.e., with at least one AA flight number). BA *can* sell this ticket, but their website (understandably) doesn't make this easy. An experienced agent could make this happen.
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The language isn't exhaustive. On AA's website, it also says:
Systemwide upgrades can be used for one-way travel for up to 3 flight segments on British Airways marketed and operated flights or British Airways operated flights marketed by American. At least one American marketed flight must be in the itinerary to be eligible.
Systemwide upgrades can be used for one-way travel for up to 3 flight segments on British Airways marketed and operated flights or British Airways operated flights marketed by American. At least one American marketed flight must be in the itinerary to be eligible.
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I did a search here, but am not finding the answer to this specific question, although I know it's in here somewhere 
If I book an itinerary that has a BA-operated, but AA-marketed flight, am I still looking for U inventory to move from PE to Business? Or does the fact that it's AA-marketed mean that I'm looking for C. I see some flights on EF showing a lot of C, but not even showing U at all (not "U0", but no U listing) for the AA (BA) flights. I have a feeling that it's still U and I should look at BA flights directly, but wanted to check.
Cheers.

If I book an itinerary that has a BA-operated, but AA-marketed flight, am I still looking for U inventory to move from PE to Business? Or does the fact that it's AA-marketed mean that I'm looking for C. I see some flights on EF showing a lot of C, but not even showing U at all (not "U0", but no U listing) for the AA (BA) flights. I have a feeling that it's still U and I should look at BA flights directly, but wanted to check.
Cheers.
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I did a search here, but am not finding the answer to this specific question, although I know it's in here somewhere 
If I book an itinerary that has a BA-operated, but AA-marketed flight, am I still looking for U inventory to move from PE to Business? Or does the fact that it's AA-marketed mean that I'm looking for C. I see some flights on EF showing a lot of C, but not even showing U at all (not "U0", but no U listing) for the AA (BA) flights. I have a feeling that it's still U and I should look at BA flights directly, but wanted to check.
Cheers.

If I book an itinerary that has a BA-operated, but AA-marketed flight, am I still looking for U inventory to move from PE to Business? Or does the fact that it's AA-marketed mean that I'm looking for C. I see some flights on EF showing a lot of C, but not even showing U at all (not "U0", but no U listing) for the AA (BA) flights. I have a feeling that it's still U and I should look at BA flights directly, but wanted to check.
Cheers.
Seeing C space on BA metal flights is irrelevant when it comes to using a SWU.
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Cheers.
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I'm trying to use a SWU for the remaining segment of my 3-segment itinerary back (FAO-LGW/LHR-JFK-DCA). It's a BA marketed and operated (BA Euroflyer) flight from FAO-LGW. It's an intraEurope connecting to transatlantic, so seems to fit all the SWU rules. The other 2 segments that already cleared (LHR-JFK on BA and JFK-DCA on AA). BA released space today, and I see it as award space, so I called.
The agents cannot enter the systemwide because it says it's "not offered" on this segment. I've HUCA and got an agent to tell me that there are a few airports in Europe "with notes for them, and included next to FAO are parenthesis from LGW/LCY" and that's why it's ineligible. Anyone ever run into this or know what is included on this hidden list?
Tried one last time, and an agent explained that all BA EuroFlyer/CityFlyer are excluded. Bummer
The agents cannot enter the systemwide because it says it's "not offered" on this segment. I've HUCA and got an agent to tell me that there are a few airports in Europe "with notes for them, and included next to FAO are parenthesis from LGW/LCY" and that's why it's ineligible. Anyone ever run into this or know what is included on this hidden list?
Tried one last time, and an agent explained that all BA EuroFlyer/CityFlyer are excluded. Bummer
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#312
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Has anyone successfully used an AA SWU on BA metal?
I booked an American flight to Europe about a month ago. The flight there is on BA metal. Ive been trying to use one of my system wide upgrades for that segment from premium economy to business. They cant waitlist so they recommended i call the exec desk every day, which I did. No availability. Just got to the airport and there are still a good number of business seats available, which they are trying to sell me for $1k. The BA desk seems to have no idea what an AA SWU is and American is still showing no availability.
Im wondering if this is the norm or if i just had bad luck on this leg. Seriously doubting flying BA metal again.
Im wondering if this is the norm or if i just had bad luck on this leg. Seriously doubting flying BA metal again.
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You need to look on aa.com for BA J award inventory. If you find this, you can clear from PE to J. Keep in mind, you must have one AA marketed segment.
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