coachrowsey

I hope it works, but for now one of the stupidest things I’ve heard 🤦‍♂️

Antarius

Don't forget Bed Bath and Beyond stock on the way.

ashill

Except that’s not the way physics works. Mach 0.99 takes a lot more than 16% (0.14/0.85) more energy than Mach 0.85, in part because if the speed of the airframe is Mach 0.99, there will be significant amounts of air passing the wing at more than Mach 1. For example, the airfoil effect relies on the air on top of the wing going faster than the air below the wing, creating lift. I’m a physicist, not an engineer (to say the least!), but my understanding is that a lot of the engineering in a supersonic plane is to minimize the amount of air that’s going much faster than other air to lessen this problem. But as long as you’re in the transonic regime, the energy requirements will be much higher than the marginal gain in speed. Just not cost effective unless you’re getting supersonic, where there are more than marginal gains in speed. (And, of course, if you’re using much more energy, the carbon footprint — a cost to the airline and therefore the consumer as well as the planet — is much higher; why bother for a marginal gain?)

Back to AA, they say in the press release that they only have to accept the planes if (paraphrasing) the design makes AA happy. We haven’t seen the contract, but that strongly suggests to me that AA’s commitment to this is pretty minimal. If the design comes through, AA’s got their order in and a place in line, but it doesn’t sound like it’s much skin off their back if, as expected, this isn’t flying in a commercially-viable way any time soon. And I’m sure Overture is more than happy to sell places in line for a pittance just for the press attention.

Ghoulish

As they say, air is only thin when you're not moving.

Ghoulish

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skylady

Should be interesting with 2 FAs!

Antarius

it would also be interesting with 10. Both are edge case hypotheticals that aren't going to be representative of reality. A premium/expensive service isn't going to be staffed like a CR7.

rt23456p

Comparing this two, it makes Baltia look like it is going to fly soon!

DataPlumber

Who are we kidding, it will be "Operated by Envoy- d.b.a. American Eagle"

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LarryJ

The AA pilot's SCOPE clause requires that any aircraft with a max gross takeoff weight over 86,000 be flown by AA pilots. The Overture is nearly double that.

Centurion

This smells so bad it is beyond vaporware. I can only imagine non refundable deposits held in some type of escrow or hedged. I suggest anyone who thinks this aircraft is possible read about Concorde development

Jeff767

Rolls just pulled out of the engine development. Might signal the end of the program.