Incorrect grammar on American website
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Well... while I sympathise with the sentiment this isn't actually as great an example as you think. Despite what your high school teacher (and SAT training) may have taught you this use of "less" is very old and has as solid a claim to being grammatical as "fewer". There are examples of the most respected authors using both words in this usage going back as far as written contemporary English. The rule that one is for count nouns and one for noncount nouns came much later and seems to have been entirely invented (well, all language is invented but in this case invented by prescriptive language style guidebooks). There is a phenomenon where when two equivalent words seem to have no distinction between them people will feel compelled to invent a rule to distinguish them because it seems like there ought to be a distinction.
Usage
In standard English less should only be used with uncountable things (less money, less time). With countable things it is incorrect to use less (less people and less words); strictly speaking, correct use is fewer people and fewer words.
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From the Oxford Dictionary of English
Usage
In standard English less should only be used with uncountable things (less money, less time). With countable things it is incorrect to use less (less people and less words); strictly speaking, correct use is fewer people and fewer words.
Usage
In standard English less should only be used with uncountable things (less money, less time). With countable things it is incorrect to use less (less people and less words); strictly speaking, correct use is fewer people and fewer words.
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The first is the preferred American spelling; the second is the preferred British spelling. As already noted, both are acceptable (though not in the same document!). Ditto for travel, level, etc., and forms of similar verbs. I'm American but I prefer the British spelling.
This pattern isn't followed for verbs when the stress falls on the final syllable, such as concealed.
Pedantic mode off.
This pattern isn't followed for verbs when the stress falls on the final syllable, such as concealed.
Pedantic mode off.
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Well... while I sympathise with the sentiment this isn't actually as great an example as you think. Despite what your high school teacher (and SAT training) may have taught you this use of "less" is very old and has as solid a claim to being grammatical as "fewer". There are examples of the most respected authors using both words in this usage going back as far as written contemporary English. The rule that one is for count nouns and one for noncount nouns came much later and seems to have been entirely invented (well, all language is invented but in this case invented by prescriptive language style guidebooks). There is a phenomenon where when two equivalent words seem to have no distinction between them people will feel compelled to invent a rule to distinguish them because it seems like there ought to be a distinction.
As long as we're complaining about language pet peeves, I'd like to just point out that when people use "gift" as a verb I want to scream. I don't recall ever even hearing it used this way until the early 2000s, and now it seems to have entirely replaced the word "give." I will die on this hill.
The first is the preferred American spelling; the second is the preferred British spelling. As already noted, both are acceptable (though not in the same document!). Ditto for travel, level, etc., and forms of similar verbs. I'm American but I prefer the British spelling.
This pattern isn't followed for verbs when the stress falls on the final syllable, such as concealed.
Pedantic mode off.
This pattern isn't followed for verbs when the stress falls on the final syllable, such as concealed.
Pedantic mode off.
Last edited by lsquare; Jul 12, 2022 at 11:37 pm
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The first is the preferred American spelling; the second is the preferred British spelling. As already noted, both are acceptable (though not in the same document!). Ditto for travel, level, etc., and forms of similar verbs. I'm American but I prefer the British spelling.
This pattern isn't followed for verbs when the stress falls on the final syllable, such as concealed.
Pedantic mode off.
This pattern isn't followed for verbs when the stress falls on the final syllable, such as concealed.
Pedantic mode off.
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As long as we're complaining about language pet peeves, I'd like to just point out that when people use "gift" as a verb I want to scream. I don't recall ever even hearing it used this way until the early 2000s, and now it seems to have entirely replaced the word "give." I will die on this hill.
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X costs fewer than 100 dollars.
I choose less. I believe less/fewer is a matter of style rather than rule. Fewer clearly looks awkward in some settings (see above), but less is generally acceptable in all cases.
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Also just look at social media and how celebrities talk. Spelling and grammar doesn't even matter in the internet era anymore.